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Attorneys: No DNA Match in Duke Scandal (update)
ABC News ^ | 4/10/06 | By TIM WHITMIRE

Posted on 04/10/2006 6:06:40 PM PDT by Perdogg

DURHAM, N.C. Apr 10, 2006 (AP)— DNA testing failed to connect any members of the Duke University lacrosse team to the alleged rape of a stripper, attorneys for the athletes said Monday.

Citing DNA test results delivered by the state crime lab to police and prosecutors a few hours earlier, the attorneys said the test results prove their clients did not sexually assault and beat a stripper hired to perform at a March 13 team party.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: anotherlyingb; crystalgailmangum; dna; duke; dukeu; lax
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To: ozzymandus

"Naturally, all the femi-nazis, lawyers, talking heads, and assorted left-wing fascists will apologize to the 43 college students they slandered. Alan Colmes will be first."

And after that, there will be a pro rally and march for the men like there was for the woman in the beginning. Yeah, that'll happen.


81 posted on 04/10/2006 10:00:20 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: anton; Howlin

Excellent! Could this not also apply to Patrick Fitzgerald??


82 posted on 04/10/2006 10:27:14 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: MizSterious
Yow! 70 interviews? The guy likes the camera and microphone, doesn't he?

A Ronnie Earle wannabe.

83 posted on 04/10/2006 10:34:00 PM PDT by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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To: stm

As someone posted about the time you replied to me, it is just as likely it was consensual between Mr. Bryant and Ms. Faber. We were not there.

As for your conjecture, that it started out consensual and she changed her mind. That is as you say rape, technically. But it is not a situation that you can make a case.

At some point Mark Steyn should be interjected here. The reason why society requires actual proof of rape is that we want and need men and women to have sexual interactions so that we do not have our birth rate drop below replacement and have an Islamic future as Europe now may well have. The state does not need to be so involved in interactions between the sexes that it hampers them.

Finally it is spelled Emmitt Smith and the only rape allegation I could find when I type in 'Emmitt Smith rape' in Google is a 1997 accusation against Michael Irvin:

http://www.texnews.com/cowboys/cow.jan97.html

He was cleared and she was possibly charged for her false claim.


84 posted on 04/10/2006 11:23:28 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Perdogg

ping


85 posted on 04/10/2006 11:55:12 PM PDT by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: M. Thatcher
Suggest you ignore that particular poster, who bizarrely maintains an irrational animus toward the Duke players.

"Could be. If they used latex. There are plenty of other materials out there ~ and doesn't Duke have several programs studying new chemistry."

For once - I'm at a loss!

86 posted on 04/11/2006 12:49:07 AM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek

I don't even think the NOW hags could come up with something as ridiculous.....


87 posted on 04/11/2006 1:50:28 AM PDT by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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To: Brytani

I posted this on a different thread a few minutes ago, but it applies on this one too. The comment by a Freeper, and my reply follows:

"To say that she's just doing it for some prospective payoff is silly. Do you REALLY think a woman would make up this story and plant the evidence just to sue some college kids? That's nuts."

Boy, are you naive. Some silly payoff? This woman saw her opportunity and took it. She's already on the shady side of life, isn't she? Exotic dancer with criminal record; tried to run down a cop with stolen car. Came to party already pre-bruised and scraped up (the defense has photos taken at party to prove it). She was already impaired when she got there, either on booze and/or drugs. There are photo's of her appearing already out of it too. She knows many of these kids are from affluent families. She probably resents these "rich white kids" right off the bat. They squabble about the money she is to be paid as the "performance" was short. Her female co-dancer has been laying low, and probably made the set-up phone call to 911. Supposedly the other female dancer said the accuser (alleged victim) never mentioned to her about any rape taking place against her at the party). The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

The LaCrosse sports program (they were 2nd in the nation) has been ruined. The coach was forced to resign. These 46 kids have had their reputations trashed and one was suspended for an e-mail that was, although vulgar, probably just joking around, Plus the reputation of Duke University itself been trashed. And all because some black "ho" with an axe to grind makes up lies and causes all kinds of racial strife in the hood, both hers and the University's. This whole issue makes me sick.

And the naive, myopic, the woman is always right and never lies mentality of some boggles my brain. On TV, on every "legal issues" show, like Nancy Grace on CNN, that idiot bimbo Kimberly Guilfoyle, on the Fox News weekend program The Lineup, Rita Cosby on MSNBC, and every other female lawyer who has appeared on all of the Cable News talk shows, have all hung these 46 male students out to dry, and condemned them to guilty as charged, of course before any of them have even been charged with a crime. All of the liberal feminazi's at work. And, of course, it is now known that there is absolutely no DNA evience at all, and it is rumoured that the woman could not make a positive identity of her three alleged attackers.

And these kids won't be charged, because there is no there there. With the caveat that the DA is up for election in two weeks and he may charge just to keep his re-election chances alive, rather than have to admit he was wrong. The female accuser is the one that needs to be charged and thrown in the klink for all of the damage she has done personally to her victims, and community-wise for stirring up racial strife which always lurks just right below the surface. I hope she ends up in prison and that all of these kids' accusers on TV and in the Duke community are forced to eat crow on camera with their mea culpa's.

I smelled Tawana Brawley from the very beginning, especially with that phone call to 911 to complain about racial epithets being shouted at the two women. First they were driving past, then they were walking past the house, then they were parked in front of the house (you'd park in front of a house where some people inside were coming out and hurling insults at you)? And then the police come about 3 minutes later, and the house was empty, and the women caller to 911 and her female "friend" are nowhere in sight. The whole thing is phoney, a set up, and an attempt to extort money from these kids' families via civil lawsuits. And I'm sure they would have sued the University too, the LaCrosse sports program. What a total con job, and vile.


88 posted on 04/11/2006 2:22:01 AM PDT by flaglady47
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To: flaglady47

The word that I haven't seen used in this story - but should be - is "lynching." What we've seen here by the media and the "legal commentary community" and the race hustlers, is a modern day lynching.

You'll recall Clarence Thomsas' use of the term "high tech lynching" during his confirmation hearings...


89 posted on 04/11/2006 2:30:52 AM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: Howlin

North Carolina Rules governing the Bar.

http://www.ncbar.com/rules/rul_adv.asp?type=R


90 posted on 04/11/2006 2:35:05 AM PDT by anton
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To: flaglady47
Other lesson: hidden dangers of hiring ho's to amuse the team.
91 posted on 04/11/2006 2:35:26 AM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: TomSmedley

Momma always said "its bad luck to hang around with a drunken whore with a criminal record."


92 posted on 04/11/2006 2:39:32 AM PDT by anton
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To: anton
Thank you for posting these rules.

As a career prosecutor, I am sickened/embarrased when I see prosecutors like Nifong or Ronnie Earle trying their cases in the friendly media before any investigation has been completed.

93 posted on 04/11/2006 3:12:12 AM PDT by writmeister
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To: writmeister

I just hope some NC attorney will make an ethics complaint.


94 posted on 04/11/2006 3:34:46 AM PDT by anton
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To: writmeister

SUBCHAPTER B

Discipline and Disability Rules

Section .0100 Discipline and Disability of Attorneys

.0111 Grievances: Form and Filing

(a) A grievance may be filed by any person against a member of the North Carolina State Bar. Such grievance may be written or oral, verified or unverified, and may be made initially to the counsel. The counsel may require that a grievance be reduced to writing in affidavit form and may prepare and distribute standard forms for this purpose.

(b) Upon the direction of the council or the Grievance Committee, the counsel will investigate such conduct of any member as may be specified by the council or Grievance Committee.

(c) The counsel may investigate any matter coming to the attention of the counsel involving alleged misconduct of a member upon receiving authorization from the chairperson of the Grievance Committee. If the counsel receives information that a member has used or is using illicit drugs, the counsel will follow the provisions of Rule .0130 of this subchapter.

(d) The North Carolina State Bar may keep confidential the identity of an attorney or judge who reports alleged misconduct of another attorney pursuant to Rule 8.3 of the Revised Rules of Professional Conduct and who requests to remain anonymous. Notwithstanding the foregoing, the North Carolina State Bar will reveal the identity of a reporting attorney or judge to the respondent attorney where such disclosure is required by law, or by considerations of due process or where identification of the reporting attorney or judge is essential to preparation of the attorney's defense to the grievance and/or a formal disciplinary complaint.

(e) Grievances must be instituted by the filing of a written or oral grievance with the North Carolina State Bar Grievance Committee or a district bar Grievance Committee within six years from the accrual of the offense, provided that grievances alleging fraud by a lawyer or an offense the discovery of which has been prevented by concealment by the accused lawyer shall not be barred until six years from the accrual of the offense or one year after discovery of the offense by the aggrieved party or by the North Carolina State Bar counsel, whichever is later. Notwithstanding the foregoing, grievances which allege felonious criminal misconduct may be filed with the Grievance Committee at any time.

(f) The counsel may decline to investigate the following allegations:
(i) that a member provided ineffective assistance of counsel in a criminal case, unless a court has granted a motion for appropriate relief based upon the member's conduct;
(ii) that a plea entered in a criminal case was not made voluntarily and knowingly, unless a court granted a motion for appropriate relief based upon the member's conduct;
(iii) that a member's advice or strategy in a civil or criminal matter was inadequate or ineffective.


History Note: Statutory Authority G.S. 84-23

Readopted Effective December 8, 1994

Amended February 20, 1995

Amended December 30, 1998

Amended October 1, 2003


95 posted on 04/11/2006 3:39:14 AM PDT by anton
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To: zip
We have to choices: A. Believe the lawyers, B. Believe the stripper.

Actually we have three choices: C. Believe the evidence (or lack thereof).

Right you are. My comment covered the period in which we are in now, i.e., he-said, she-said.

96 posted on 04/11/2006 3:54:19 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: JLS
The woman in that particular case had the "dna" of two maybe three men on her when she claimed that she had been raped.

That is simply not true. The DNA of one boyfriend was found. So in your world anyone who has sex with their significant other in close proximity to being raped should not be allowed to press charges? We'll call it the "virgins only" rape defense.

97 posted on 04/11/2006 5:16:29 AM PDT by crabapple joe
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To: flaglady47
All very good points.

I hope the final outcome of this case is to teach people not to always believe ever allegation or rape means that a rape took place. Woman have and will continue to make unfounded allegations of rape but hopefully more high profile cases like this one will show people that an allegation of rape does not automatically indicate guilt.

In fact, when a woman lies about a rape she makes it even harder for women who have been raped to be believed.
98 posted on 04/11/2006 6:24:42 AM PDT by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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To: altura
Sorry to offend Lacrosse lovers, but I just don't see you people setting up another schools Lacrosse team. Not seeing it.

True enough. Lacrosse has its partisans, but lacrosse folks are generally a bit more laid back than, say, hockey, football, or basketball fans.

99 posted on 04/11/2006 6:35:05 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: TexasTransplant
Why is Lacrosse even mentioned? Is the Sport on trial?

It's played by folks who actually tend to graduate and get good jobs, go to big-name East Coast schools, and so forth.

And thus many people see it as a "rich kids game." Which should be enough to answer your question.

100 posted on 04/11/2006 6:37:48 AM PDT by r9etb
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