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This is NOT an April Fools joke, unfortunately.
1 posted on 04/01/2006 11:49:57 AM PST by technomage
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To: technomage

This is NOT an April Fools joke, unfortunately.


Sadly true.


Vote them all out.


2 posted on 04/01/2006 11:53:51 AM PST by WhiteGuy ("Every Generation needs a new revolution" - Jefferson)
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To: technomage

Should we put a fence along the Canadian border, too?


3 posted on 04/01/2006 11:55:27 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: technomage

Thank you for posting this.


4 posted on 04/01/2006 11:55:40 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: technomage
at the end of the year 2004, there were 49,000 illegal aliens in federal prisons.

About 30% of all inmates in federal prisons.

6 posted on 04/01/2006 11:58:45 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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...the illegal proponents, the open border proponents, the Congress and the President (yup, I said it) seem to think this is a small price.
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For them, it is a small price to PAY FOR THEIR VOTES. Now that is saying it, like it really is. Votes = power and control in Washington, which tragically, for American citizens, is all that Washington cares about. Therein is the CORE PROBLEM underlying illegal immigration and why Washington has deliberately "ignored" it ...


8 posted on 04/01/2006 11:59:25 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: technomage; All
It is my opinion that we are already in WWIV ( WWIII being the Cold War ) and there are two, somewhat interlocking elements to it:

Islam, a Religion of Peace®? ( links, blogs, quips, quotes, aggravating pictures ) is located here- click the Pic, and scroll backwards:

"Thunder on the Border," click the picture:

( PS- my personal prediction? That picture will become one of the most widely distributed, and most hated, pictures on the internet. The Illegal lobby could not have done more damage to themselves with that "Mexican Flag Superior, America in Distress" photograph if they had tried... )

9 posted on 04/01/2006 12:01:10 PM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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Now you've done it...you have gone and posted facts. Cold, hard facts.

Prepare to be personally insulted as posters will call you a liar, racist and whatever else they can think of while ignoring the facts.

13 posted on 04/01/2006 12:04:13 PM PST by Abundy
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What's the point. There was somuch beating around the bush it was lost in the blur.


17 posted on 04/01/2006 12:07:16 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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The OTM numbers are a joke.

First off most of them are paying from $10-50k to get from their country of origin to the US and no doubt have sophisticated cyotees bringing them in.

In 86 when I had to fly to Brown Field (San Diego) to pick up a passanger while I waited for him in the restaruant/bar I was talking to a bunch of BP agents and at that time they stated that about 20% of the illegals coming across were from Asia and the Middle east. I'm sure that the numbers haven't changed that much.

Those people aren't living under bushes or in cardboard boxes like the Mexicans, Central and So. Americans and are taken into their respected communities and protected and disapear.

As to the sophistication of the operations, in 85 I was approached and offered $1,000/head to fly Chinese from a private airstrip near Guadalahara to a private airstrip near the US border so they could move them past the Mexican checkpoints in their highways. At that time they were paying $10,000/head to get from China to the US which tells me that it was no doubt government money and commies that were being sent here.


21 posted on 04/01/2006 12:12:28 PM PST by dalereed
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I show you these statistics to try and give you a perspective on the sheer size of the problem along our border

President Bush, for all his compassion, seems to ignore the truth. Bush is a leader. Where, I wonder, is he leading us?

29 posted on 04/01/2006 12:28:59 PM PST by Savage Land
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TRUTH bump


30 posted on 04/01/2006 12:29:09 PM PST by moehoward
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Thanks for the reasoned comments. You are exactly right. I appreciate you speaking out on this subject. I believe conservatives have a duty to do so.

I will also tell you that I am utterly humiliated for those who claim to be conservative, and can't see a thing wrong with illegal aliens.

Those 49,000 illegal immigrants have killed, maimed, raped, molested, assaulted, GTA'd, robbed, burgled, defrauded, coerced and worse their way into prison. We were primised in 1986 that our borders would be closed to illegal aliens if only we'd make those here then in violation of our laws, legal. We did and got screwed by our political operatives for doing so.

There shouldn't have been one victim if illegal alien crime since the 1986 naturalization process was finalized. Instead many have died, many have had their lives turned upside down. Many children have grown up without a father or mother. Where on God's green earth is compashing for them?

Nope, only the illegal alien warrants compasion in this nation turned upside down.


32 posted on 04/01/2006 12:33:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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I think you have missed, gone by, ignored, obscured, the single most important fact out of all this insurgent problem..
Why is that?.. Anyway that problem IS.. the insurgents are now are will become democrats.. This reason eclipses all others.. Not that the other facts are not important its just they are MUCH LESS important..

AND since ID is very easy to get (on the street) registering to vote (in almost all states) is very easy.. And if you can get 500,000 (more or less illegals)to come out for a mere rally in L.A... What happens during an election, you know, something that really impacts government policy and largess..

The republican party is oblivious.. actually oblivious..
The democrats KNOW the writing is on the wall.. One question is WHY would the republican party SAVE the democrat party?.. Which is exactly what is happening.. And with muted outrage.. from those UNoblivious..which are few.. The gross denial is obscene..

43 posted on 04/01/2006 12:52:07 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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bump -- good job!


47 posted on 04/01/2006 1:01:28 PM PST by EverOnward (help support our hero soldiers at anysoldier.com)
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Terrorist Ping!

The President is doing it because he is a globalist and does not believe in secure borders.

Sad that the globalists have put such a low price on the lives of your sons and daughters, your wives and sisters, my beautiful grand-daughter.

How dare they.

OBTW, that list of coutries from which SIOTMs come includes Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Libya, and Chechnya. If you (that's general, not you specifically) don't think they're here, then you're either ignorant or stupid. One condition is curable, the other will follow you to your grave.

You know what, maybe that is a specific you. Specifically aimed at all the people on FR who are constantly berating those of us who are against illegal immigration and for secure borders, those few who are absolutely ecstatic when FReeper like Travis McGee are suspended. Yeah, I'm talking to you. You know who you are. Face it...I don't like any of you very much.

54 posted on 04/01/2006 1:15:54 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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Amazingly, BJ actually admitted today in another link (can't remember which one???) that there were indeed terrorists sneaking across the border. Sadly, for all of us, Bush refuses to admit it and act upon it.


67 posted on 04/01/2006 1:38:59 PM PST by mtbopfuyn
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Sorry, but losing hundreds of lives to murder, putting thousands of others through lifelong torment because they were raped, or beaten in an aggravated assault or robbery is not a small price to pay for the families and individuals victimized.

But, the illegal proponents, the open border proponents, the Congress and the President (yup, I said it) seem to think this is a small price.

Not that they'll say so openly.

74 posted on 04/01/2006 1:49:07 PM PST by Mojave
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49,000 illegal aliens in federal prisons. 49,000 illegals that commited serious crimes in our country after crossing the border. This is data that cannot be debated as these are facts as reported by the GAO.

I'd like to debate it (sort of) because I think the number of incarcerated illegals is higher than that. Did the GAO only count the illegals in federal prisons? If so, we'd still need to add in the number of illegals in city/county jails and those in state prisons.

If you get a chance, there are some crime stats and links on this old thread.

 

75 posted on 04/01/2006 1:55:32 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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Our elected officials are willing to except a certain amount of collateral damage (American lives) in exchange for globalism, cheap labor, multi-culturalism and diversity.
76 posted on 04/01/2006 1:57:48 PM PST by Buffettfan (VIVA LA MIGRA! - LONG LIVE THE MINUTEMEN!)
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Thank you for this most outstanding post. On a recent Bill O'Reilly show, Juan Williams commented that Americans anger is racial. I wrote O'Reilly (which I knew wouldn't get air time....)that I was insulted by Juan's comment. My concern has to do with allegiance to our great country and for the safety of those who love and respect America.
Your facts express the reason so many are concerned; it's not at all about racism. O'Reilly may appreciate reading your facts.
Thanks again for your work.


83 posted on 04/01/2006 2:38:33 PM PST by 4integrity
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