The Most Important Fact Congress and Illegal Advocates Have Overlooked, Or Ignored

Various | 4/1/06 | Technomage

[technomage]

The latest attempt at immigration reform which is being pushed by Congress and the President, is ignoring one extremely important point and putting all of our lives at risk.

Before I get to that point:

For the sake of argument, I will not mention the costs that illegal immigration puts on all local and state governments through Welfare, our Health Care system, our school systems, etc. That will continually be debated.

I will also skim over the somewhat hidden problem of criminals coming into this country. According to the General Accounting Office (the investigative arm of Congress), at the end of the year 2004, there were 49,000 illegal aliens in federal prisons. 49,000 illegals that commited serious crimes in our country after crossing the border. This is data that cannot be debated as these are facts as reported by the GAO.

Now, Congress and open border proponents seem to accept this as a small price to pay. After all, 49,000 as compared to 12 million illegals is a very small percentage. At least that is the argument I have heard from some far left liberals I know. Well, you tell the tens of thousands of families in this country how their family member being murdered by an illegal is a small price to pay. You tell the families of daughters, wives, nieces, aunts that have been brutally raped by illegals that it is a small price to pay for helping so many improve their lives.

Sorry, but losing hundreds of lives to murder, putting thousands of others through lifelong torment because they were raped, or beaten in an aggravated assault or robbery is not a small price to pay for the families and individuals victimized.

But, the illegal proponents, the open border proponents, the Congress and the President (yup, I said it) seem to think this is a small price. In fact, I have heard ludicrous arguments like: We have thousands of murders in this country every year by citizens. What an infantile argument. Yes, we do. But the thousands of attacks, rapes, murders, robberies perpetrated by illegals affect the victims just as badly as if citizens did it and the vast majority COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED with very strict border control.

And I am not even mentioning the cost of incarnerating these illegals, which runs about 6-8 billion dollars a year!!

However, as bad as this is, that is not my main point. There is yet another problem with illegals crossing our border that has the potential to dwarf the problems listed above.

The even bigger problem is with OTM's. Not familiar with that term? OTM's is a term the US Border Patrol uses. It stands for Other Than Mexican's. OTM's are those illegals apprehended by the BP that are not from Mexico.

According to the US Border Patrol (USBP) the number of illegals apprehended in the fiscal year 2005 was 1.2 MILLION. This is how many were apprehended. The USBP estimates they apprehend about 1 in 4 illegals crossing the border, but many think that the number is closer to 1 in 10. Still, let us take the smaller number: The USBP catches 1 illegal for every four that come through. That means in fiscal 2005, at least 3.6 MILLION illegals were able to enter our country.

Now, of these numbers, 7% are OTM's (again, according to GAO statistics).

This is from the Congressional Research Service (CRS) Report For Congress entitled:
Border Security: "Apprehensions of "Other Than Mexican" Aliens
September 22, 2005
http://www.mipt.org/pdf/CRS_RL33097.pdf

The number of OTM apprehensions remained relatively stable from 1998 to 2002, averaging almost 37,000 a year over the six-year time period. Apprehensions increased by 33% from FY2002 to FY2003, and 52% from FY2003 to FY2004. Roughly three-quarters of the way into FY2005, OTM apprehensions have increased by 58% from FY2004. Indeed, over the last three years OTM apprehensions have more than tripled, increasing by almost 220%. This trend is in stark contrast to apprehensions of Mexican aliens, which have remained relatively stable over the same period.

Here is a breakdown of the top 25 OTM nationalities:

Country: FY2002, FY2003, FY2004, FY2005 (through July 11), %Change FY02-FY05
Honduras: 9316, 14491, 24420, 36118, 288%
Brazil: 3100, 5240, 8859, 27396, 784%
El Salvador: 7036, 9602, 16974, 27317, 288%
Guatemala: 6021, 7728, 11628, 14866, 147%
Nicaragua: 581, 765, 1460, 2498, 330%
Cuba: 1541, 1303, 1406, 2144, 39%
China: 688, 576, 1096, 1653, 140%
Ecuador: 664, 521, 679, 989, 49%
Dominican Republic: 1183, 2057, 2023, 969, -18%
Costa Rica: 233, 382, 450, 700, 200%
Canada: 1836, 1611, 1497, 697, -62%
Peru: 312, 366, 370, 388, 24%
Colombia: 347, 368, 335, 308, -11%
India: 345, 316, 378, 235, -32%
Jamaica: 287, 269, 215, 162, -44%
Bolivia: 48, 59, 140, 161, 235%
Albania: 167, 115, 117, 155, -7%
Argentina: 207, 252, 168, 138, -33%
Haiti: 295, 324, 165, 131, -56%
Poland: 228, 205, 231, 122, -46%
Romania 42, 58, 85, 103, 145%
South Korea: 143, 218, 161, 98, -31%
Pakistan: 167, 228, 164, 91, -46%
Venezuela: 69, 126, 132, 88, 28%
Israel: 103, 109, 91, 68, -34%
Source: CRS Analysis of CBP Data.

I show you these statistics to try and give you a perspective on the sheer size of the problem along our border.

The USBP also has another designation for certain illegals that are apprehended. This is: Special Interest OTM Apprehensions. Basically these are people apprehended that are from 35 countries designated by our intelligence community as countries known to support, harbor or export terrorism. I have yet to find the official list of exactly which countries these are but I am sure it is available somewhere.

Here are the latest stats on these Special Interest OTM's:
Year, # of SIOTM's Apprehended
1997, 729
1998, 721
1999, 736
2000, 676
2001, 766
2002, 849
2003, 807
2004, 626

Remember, this is the number of persons apprehended attempting to cross our border illegally that are from countries KNOWN to support, harbor or sponsor terrorism. How many others were not caught? Well, again using USBP numbers of 1 in 4 caught: The total above is: 5,910. This means that possibly as many as 24,000 illegals from countries that sponsor or support terrorism made it in!

Again, these are all government figures easily found on government web sites. These are FACTS, not theories, guesses, etc., but FACTS. And these are FACTS that the US Congress knows, or should know, as these are reported by the Congressional Research Service.

When I tell liberal 'friends' these numbers, they always give the same response:

Those numbers are so small compared to the overall numbers of illegals that they are insignificant.

Insignificant? It only took 19 terrorists to kill 3,000 Americans!! Look at the numbers again! Those are the ones that were CAPTURED. And, as the USBP tells us, they catch only about 1 in 4.

This is where the Congress, the President, the groups that advocate an open border are putting the lives of all Americans at risk. No, wait: They are putting the lives of all PEOPLE in this country, legal or illegal, at risk. The Congress is doing it merely for votes. The President is doing it because he is a globalist and does not believe in secure borders. The advocacy groups are doing it for purely selfish reasons.

When the next terrorist strike occurs, be it a nuke, chemical weapons, or something as simple as a truck bomb at a mall or sporting event, those killed will not be only legal Americans. Those killed will not be only White. Those killed will not be only Conservatives, straight, religious. This attack will kill anyone in its path, including liberals, illegals, whites, blacks, hispanics, gays, straights, ANYONE!

When this happens, and it is proven that the terrorists came across the border, we can blame Congressional members for the deaths. When this happens, we can blame those selfish, egotistical groups that pushed for open borders and no controls on immigration.

But, I fear, this will not be the worst. Yes, more Americans killed as a result of terrorism would be terrible. But the aftermath may be even worse. What would happen here in the USA could be similar to an internal war.

The saddest thing about all this is that the leaders of the greatest, strongest country in the world did not do their most basic, fundamental job: Protect the country, protect our borders.

Maybe 99.9% of all illegals are good, moral, decent, hard working people. As we know, or should know, from experience, it only takes a handful of terrorists to kill thousands. It only takes a handful of terrorists to bring the world economy to its knees.

As much as I am against amnesty and people crossing our borders illegally to work, I am much more fearful of another terrorist attack. Done right, it could not only kill hundreds or thousands, but it could bring our economy to it's knees. And when that happens, legals and illegals alike will lose their jobs and their incomes.

Congress, the President and the illegal advocates seem to think that these are good odds and are playing with OUR lives to prove it. If they are wrong, the backlash will be dramatic.

Technomage - Proud Free Republic Member, Proud Conservative Legal American

[Know your rights]

there is a civil war brewing

If it's too late to reverse the invasion peacefully, then bring it on.

[PGalt]

The democrat party(and republican RINOS) are Americas most vital threat to National Security.. solve that problem ALL the others can be handled...

Well stated.

Anyone with ANY beef about government, there is one solution. Change it. It is easy, inexpensive, and no blood is shed. The anti-truth (how many examples does it take?), anti-freedom (how many examples does it take?), anti-life (how many examples does it take?) Democratic Crime Syndicate needs to be voted off this island of liberty.

The Rinocrats are next.

United WE stand.

Focus.

[hosepipe]

[ The Rinocrats are next. ]

The Rinos are first else the second won't happen..
A force divided is a force defeated..

[PGalt]

The clear and present danger crime syndicate is out. A couple more election cycles out of power, they become more irrational, and possibly more violent which hastens their slide into oblivion. Their judicial enablers are being outed on a regular basis. Their msm bagmen are carrying less revenue. They are losing ground. Finish them off.

Good people are connecting rapidly. How many non-freepers, non-bloggers, "not that interested", can each of us get to the polls this year? The future is bright.

[hosepipe]

[ Good people are connecting rapidly. How many non-freepers, non-bloggers, "not that interested", can each of us get to the polls this year? The future is bright. ]

Really.. 10 to 20 maybe 30 million illegals(or more) a.k.a. proto democrats with a few rinos.. gaining ID's (on the street) to enable voter registration (and the number is growing) does not portend a bright future that I can see.. Already the blacks are allying with the hispanics, feminine ditz's are already on board.. And the medusa heads of the snake are multiplying..

Looks like the republican party is penetrated.. and is not dependable anymore.. What to do?.. be practical and not in denial.. Optimistic or pessimistic denial I mean.. Else "WE" will not know what hit "US".. You know like when Clinton was elected.. The first one..

[texastoo]

Thanks for your info. I, also, remember when we increased the BP numbers but did not fund them. What a disgrace.

Now Canadians and Americans will have to have passports to cross. But not so in Mexico. We must not interfere will the illegal aliens crossing the border.

[bobwilgo]

A politican can be wrong 95% of the time and still be voted into office.



why?????!!

[Pro-Bush]

Bump!

[devolve]

I L L E G A L S ?

[TheLion]

I read a post the other day that claimed roughly 75,000 in federal prisons. Half of all prisoners in California prisons are illegals.

The flood is going to swamp us. In 10 to 20 years we will have about 100 million. They have families and babies at a higher rate than Whites or Blacks.

I heard Durbin mention in the Senate that 1/2 of all illegals overstayed their visas.

I'm firmly convinced that the correct number is probably around 30 million currently. No one knows for sure, but they like to use this figure of 12 million, as if it isn't a big deal.

I have never seen any figures for how many have overstayed their visas. Is this information being withheld for a reason?

[TheLion]

Bump!

[potlatch]

Very unique looking devolve, it's great!

Yesterday - Friday, in my south Texas city 43 illegials were detained and turned over to Immigration Customs Enforcement.

The County deputies got a tip from a tractor-trailor driver who saw a pickup full of people. The deputies arranged for the TT-truck driver to cross a bridge and block it off at the other end so they could catch the driver [coyote] along with the others.

The people in the first pickup described three more vehicles carrying illegals that were following.

One of the trucks had been stolen from another Texas city.

On Thursday, another 10 illegals were caught. When they stopped that truck 15 people bailed out and ran into the brush. All but 5 were caught. All of the vehicles involved were impounded.

Can you imagine what is going through here on a daily basis?

[technomage]

I have never seen any figures for how many have overstayed their visas. Is this information being withheld for a reason?

I have not seen that information anywhere but I am sure it is available.

However, the number of people who have overstayed their visas is dwarfed by the number of people here illegally who never had a visa in the first place.

[TheLion]

Found the following on the net. I think the figures are low:



The study estimates that the visa overstay population in the United States is at least 3.6 million people, out of an estimated 9 million to 10 million illegal immigrants. Yet nationally, only 51 full-time agents in the special enforcement unit of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency were assigned in 2004 to work on these cases, the report says. Half of the referrals the auditors examined where not followed up within a two-month period.

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http://www.workpermit.com/news/2005_10_24/us/immigrants_overstay_visas_us.htm

[technomage]

Yet nationally, only 51 full-time agents in the special enforcement unit of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency were assigned in 2004 to work on these cases

So, doing the math, each one of these agents had a workload in 2004 of 70,588 cases each, or 193+ cases each and every day of the year.

Glad to see this country is getting really serious about the illegal issue!!

[TheLion]

I think at least 5 million are coming in a year and they keep using this stupid figure of 12 million.

[technomage]

I think at least 5 million are coming in a year and they keep using this stupid figure of 12 million.

As the US Border Patrol reports: In fiscal 2005 they caught 1.2 million illegals trying to cross the border. The USBP estimates that they catch only 1 in 4. Even using that low number, this means that in fiscal 2005, 3.6 million made it through.

Are they trying to tell us that in 2004 there were only 9 million here?

[TheLion]

Hijinx has said the figure could be as low as 1 in 10 or 1 in 5 in Arizona....that is a lot of illegals!

[Borax Queen]

Bump

[Looking4Truth]

At that time they were paying $10,000/head to get from China to the US which tells me that it was no doubt government money and commies that were being sent here.

I've been wondering about the fact that every little BFE town in the U.S. has one or more Chinese restaurants (even ones without McDonalds) in it and the potential 'sleeper cell' possibility for years (even way before 9-11) but I've always been ridiculed for that.

We'll see I guess.