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1 posted on 03/31/2006 4:42:41 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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I am so tired of hearing McCain on almost every talk show for a week already. I do NOT like his message or legislation.


2 posted on 03/31/2006 4:45:00 PM PST by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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"They are waving the flag of a country that they would not return to live in."

Victor Davis Hanson

3 posted on 03/31/2006 4:46:46 PM PST by prognostigaator
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You and I are being asked to allow our nation to be over-run, our language replaced, our neighbor's job and possibly your own given to a foreign national.

Ridiculous. You have nothing to fear but fear itself.

4 posted on 03/31/2006 4:47:11 PM PST by PRND21
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Some here think this immigration issue is hyperbole. Seems some McCainiacs are still around from 2000.
5 posted on 03/31/2006 4:47:36 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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Why don't we take over Mexico and make it better than we found it!:)


16 posted on 03/31/2006 5:00:06 PM PST by restornu (Those living close to God & his infinite grace (don't) have to tell, it will show in their face)
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It's a date! I'll bring a case of Grey Poupon and FRench Champagne.

Somebody is gonna have to help me figure out how to get it out of the trunk of my new Lamborghini Ferrari Tomaso stretch Mini-SUV van tho... I couldn't make up my mind which one to buy so I bought them all and had them all put together by ChopShops'R'Us.. Their motto, "You shop, We chop." They don't hire illegals there for some reason tho, so I can't speak to the quality of the work they do, but Hey.. them's the breaks. ;-)

I'm having the Swedish Female Sharpshooters squad flown over too so I hope you have a hugh Hot Tub at your new place, I hope? ;-)


23 posted on 03/31/2006 5:09:39 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: DoughtyOne; abigail2; Bella_Bru; BenLurkin; Blue Champagne; Bob J; boris; Brad's Gramma; ...

Misc ping, So Cal ping, et al


27 posted on 03/31/2006 5:14:43 PM PST by EveningStar
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I can't decide which is more ridiculous. Bush saying we're a nation of immigrants, even though 85% of us were born right here, or that the consensus guest worker proposal is anything more then backdoor amnesty.

Bush, McCain, Spector and Graham have joined forces with the Senates liberal Democrats to form a coalition for passage of a liberal immigration policy. I don't see anything conservative about granting amnesty to millions of illegals, unless of course you're a Democrat. The Democrats will be the winners in all this. They will see huge gains in Hispanic voters. There is no upside to amnesty for the GOP. None. The GOP will come out the losers.

38 posted on 03/31/2006 5:24:36 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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You remember when W. made his 2000 nomination acceptance speech, he spoke a few lines in Spanish.

I knew right then and there that he did not get this issue.

Naturally, this country will have a lot of Hispanic immigration. I am okay with that as long as it is legal and they come here to become part of our culture, to adopt our language, to leave at home the flags and allegiances that belong to the old country.

Bush does not get that. He might have said ~in~ ~English~, "And to our newest Americans...welcome. You come as generations have before to contribute and become part of this great nation."

But, instead, he pandered to Hispanic culture rather than insisting on American culture, and he encouraged their dual loyalty. (dual at best)

On this issue, heck NO, I do not trust the president.

45 posted on 03/31/2006 5:35:25 PM PST by LK44-40
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You said:

"You and I are being asked to allow our nation to be over-run, our language replaced, our neighbor's job and possibly your own given to a foreign national. We are being asked to pay their children's education. We are being asked to give them free health care. We are being asked to accept hospitals having to reduce services across the board, in order to recoup the expenditures for which hospitals are not reimbursed. Not only do you pay for illegal aliens health care, your own is being savaged in the process. You may not think so. That's okay. It is. All of this is asked, or more accurately demanded of you and I. We have very little choice.

We're not being asked, we've been told. Anyway, there are two good things that come out of this week's events. First is that everyone has been forced to confront the facts that you outline above. The second is that these folks do not show the slightest intent of transferring allegiance from their country of origin to this one. Quite the contrary, in fact. After this week, it's no longer possible to pretend otherwise.

51 posted on 03/31/2006 5:54:52 PM PST by absalom01 (NRA,CRPA)
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We are being asked to pay their children's education.

Have to disagree with this. We aren't being asked. It's being demanded and we're being forced.

52 posted on 03/31/2006 5:55:21 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill)
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Great post.

The very fact that this even has to be discussed, debated and defended, speaks volumes about the decayed sate of our Republic.


61 posted on 03/31/2006 6:08:19 PM PST by TheLion
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Great points in there, but you know unless you embrace every illegal immigrant and take them water in the desert as they break into our country then you are nothing but a dirty dirty racist!


WELCOME TO THE CLUB!

{:O)


71 posted on 03/31/2006 6:34:28 PM PST by trubluolyguy (If I wanted to live in Mexico, I'd FRIGGING MOVE THERE!)
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Good article. Points well taken.

Right now I vote for candidates based on their stance on only two issues: gun control and immigration. They have to be "right" on both. Luckily for me, I live in a red state and in a congressional district that has a Congressman who is right on both. One senator is right on both; the other is so wobbly on almost all issues that I don't bother to vote for him.

Again, thanks for a good summary of the problems that face us. I never thought that our country would be facing this situation. It kind of snuck up on us, didn't it?

75 posted on 03/31/2006 6:48:07 PM PST by OldPossum
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Good post. Thanks.

There is one thing I have noticed that Bill Clinton, George Bush, McCain, Kennedy and other open borders people all have in common. I have never heard a one of these people acknowledge that the American taxpayer provides the free health care, free education, free welfare, etc. Otherwise, these pathetic politicians are just a parrot of each other repeating the same "jobs that Americans won't do, we can't deport that many people" and such.
81 posted on 03/31/2006 7:10:47 PM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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bookmark


98 posted on 04/01/2006 3:43:57 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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Good rant. Thanks DoughtyOne.


100 posted on 04/01/2006 4:03:08 AM PST by PGalt
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btttt


117 posted on 04/01/2006 1:14:12 PM PST by dennisw (If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles-Sun Tzu)
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Very well said.

For me personally, the worst thing is the ER. I truly fear that one of my sons will die (may G-d forbid) because of shoddy care or too long a wait at an overrun ER. My friends in other parts of the country do not have ER waiting rooms that are filled with illegals awaiting free primary care. Imagine. They see a doctor in less than 6 hours.

The coup de grace is how hard my husband works to pay for our health insurance and costs, and knowing that he is also paying for these people's care too. We give with open hearts to charity. I want to help those in need. But I hate paying taxes to support lawbreakers, all while we have to count our pennies to try and live a middle class life in southern CA.

Ron, your best point, the one that isn't heard often enough, is that these people are not true refugees. They were not hungry in Mexico and their families did not live under threat of pain or death. Huge point. Bless you for making it, even as it makes me that much more angry at our President.

120 posted on 04/01/2006 9:47:13 PM PST by Yaelle
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I have never read an article about starvation in Mexico. I have never read of children being taken to mass orphanages because parents couldn't support them. I have never seen expansive stories about homelessness

Only because the American media has not deemed this worthy. Your premise and supposition is sound. A visit to Texas may be in order. Or not, depending on whether there is a conviction regarding "reality". It may be ugly and harsh, or it may be whatever is due to others. Basic humanity and compassion are a factor. With the exception of the "machine-gun them all and let a higher authority sort them out" crowd. Yet even they have an open forum to foment violence and death. Believe that there is no corruption or servitude in Mexico. You will feel good.

128 posted on 04/01/2006 10:14:53 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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