Posted on 03/31/2006 12:13:03 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
Princeton University sociologist Douglas S. Massey reports that 62 percent of illegal immigrants pay income taxes (via withholding) and 66 percent contribute to Social Security. Forbes magazine notes that Mexican illegals aren't clogging up the social-services system: only 5 percent receive food stamps or unemployment assistance; 10 percent send kids to public schools.
Economist Larry Kudlow praises Hispanic entrepreneurship: "According to 2002 Census Bureau data, Hispanics are opening businesses at a rate three times faster than the national average. In addition, there were almost 1.6 million Hispanic-owned businesses generating $222 billion in revenue in 2002."
Total crime and property crime in California are half what they were in 1980; violent crime has fallen more than a third. The state's Hispanic population during that time has increased 120 percent.
(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...
I'm on welfare because I paid into social security for 40 plus years? In addition I invested in various pension plans with my own money. Give me a break!
More of the moral equivelency that represents these folks understanding of citizen vs illegal immigrant...
If this is an example of the current work force (which I do not believe it is), no wonder 4th to 8th grade spanish speaking individuals are in such demand here.
Another FReeper posted these felonies and asked if any have been repealed. I don't know. Do you?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1607083/posts
If they haven't, there are an awful lot of organizations, churches, and individuals in this country committing felonies, right out in front of God and everybody else, with impunity. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out that all three of my "representatives" in congress are guilty.
In fiscal year 1995, about $1.1 billion in
AFDC and Food Stamp benefits were provided to households with an illegal alien parent for the use of his or her citizen child. This amount accounted for about 3 percent of
AFDC and 2 percent of Food Stamp benefit costs. A vast majority of the households receiving these benefits resided in a few states—85 percent of the AFDC
households were in California, New York, Texas, and Arizona; 81 percent of Food Stamp households were in California, Texas, and Arizona.
California households alone accounted for $720 million of the combined AFDC and Food Stamp benefit costs, with such households representing about 10 percent of the state’s
AFDC and Food Stamp caseloads. Although illegal aliens also received SSI and HUD housing assistance for their citizen
children, data to develop estimates for these two programs
were not available.
6 We recently reported that in 1995, undocumented alien mothers received Medicaid benefits for 78,386
births in California and 24,549 births in Texas. These births represented 14 and 8 percent, respectively,
of all births in these states in that year. See Undocumented Aliens: Medicaid-Funded Births in
California and Texas (GAO/HEHS-97-124R, May 30, 1997)
8 Almost all AFDC recipients—97 percent—also received Medicaid. In fiscal year 1994, the average
annual Medicaid expenditure for a child on AFDC was $1,039.
10 We previously reported that for fiscal year 1992 about $479 million annually—or 2 percent of federal,
state, and local AFDC benefits—was provided to the citizen children of illegal aliens. See Benefits for
Illegal Aliens: Some Program Costs Increasing, But Total Costs Unknown (GAO/T-HRD-93-33, Sept. 29,
1993)
http://tinyurl.com/koh9e
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Illegal aliens threaten U.S. medical system
by WorldNetDaily.com, March 13, 2005
Cristobal Silverio emigrated illegally from Mexico to Stockton, Calif., in 1997 to work as a fruit picker.
He brought with him his wife, Felipa, and three children, 19, 12 and 8 – all illegals. When Felipa gave birth to her fourth child, daughter Flor, the family had what is referred to as an "anchor baby" – an American citizen by birth who provided the entire Silverio clan a ticket to remain in the U.S. permanently.
But Flor was born premature, spent three months in the neonatal incubator and cost the San Joaquin Hospital more than $300,000. Meanwhile, oldest daughter Lourdes married an illegal alien gave birth to a daughter, too. Her name is Esmeralda. And Felipa had yet another child, Cristian.
The two Silverio anchor babies generate $1,000 per month in public welfare funding for the family. Flor gets $600 a month for asthma. Healthy Cristian gets $400. While the Silverios earned $18,000 last year picking fruit, they picked up another $12,000 for their two "anchor babies."
http://tinyurl.com/rxvpy
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According to her study, 84 California hospitals are closing their doors as a direct result of the rising number of illegal aliens and their non-reimbursed tax on the system.
"Anchor babies," the author writes, "born to illegal aliens instantly qualify as citizens for welfare benefits and have caused enormous rises in Medicaid costs and stipends under Supplemental Security Income and Disability Income."
In addition, the report says, "many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that American medicine fought and vanquished long ago, such as drug-resistant tuberculosis, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue, and Chagas disease."
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Many illegals entering this country have tuberculosis, according to the report.
..."TB's swift, deadly return now is lethal for about 60 percent of those infected because of new Multi-Drug Resistant Tuberculosis. Until recently MDR-TB was endemic to Mexico. This Mycobacterium tuberculosis is resistant to at least two major anti-tubercular drugs.... Latent disease explodes later....
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ascribed 42 percent of all new TB cases to 'foreign born' people who have up to eight times higher incidences apparently, 66 percent of all TB cases coming to America originate in Mexico, the Philippines and Vietnam."
Other health threats from illegals include, according to the report:
* Chagas disease, also called American trypanosomiasis or "kissing bug disease," is transmitted by the reduviid bug, which prefers to bite the lips and face.... The disease also infiltrates America's blood supply... No cure exists....
* Leprosy, also known as Hansen's disease... is endemic to northeastern states because illegal aliens and other immigrants brought leprosy from India, Brazil, the Caribbean and Mexico.
* Dengue fever is exceptionally rare in America... Recently, according to the report, there was a virulent outbreak of dengue fever in Webb County, Texas, which borders Mexico....
* Polio was eradicated from America, but now reappears in illegal immigrants as do intestinal parasites, says the report.
* Malaria was obliterated, but now is re-emerging in Texas.
http://tinyurl.com/rxvpy
The dumbing down was planned and it seems it is starting to pay off!
These are all fair points. I think that a typical California Democrat would be regarded as a hard-core communist here in Texas. :) It did help Nixon and especially Reagan that both were Californians. It didn't help Ford or Bush 41, but they won there as well. Bush 41 barely won in 1988 (I think it was 51-49, something like that).
I can add that Ford never won any statewide office. He was a Congressmen from Michigan before he was appointed Veep. Ditto for Bush 41, although he was the Veep before winning California and 40 other states in 1988.
It still seems to me that California GOPers are much more hostile to Hispanics than GOPers in other states with large Hispanic populations. Even if California is Rat-infested for other reasons, I don't think that GOPers there have exactly endeared themselves to Hispanics. It seems to me that the difference between the GOP attitude there, as opposed to the one here in Texas, is night and day.
I think we can agree there's no basis for a solid number. Tony's/Massey's/Forbes analysis is therefore kerplunkt.
Big time...
This shows that it is wise to have governance of law, not popularity polls. I see two camps of anti-immigration: the W-2 wage slaves that are certain that nobody else pays their "fair share" via a 1099, and those that claim all illegal (non-W-2 extorted) immigrants are participating in criminal enterprises. It is almost as if some people believe CBP has been unfunded, but Marine Inspector has provided solid information that CBP is working hard and very effectively. I will agree that ICE has issues, yet they are an administrative law bureaucracy.
A troubling statistical ploy for two reasons. Accuracy in the impacted regions and the misleading nature of the statistic. Following are more relevant facts and statistics.
In California, approximately 40% of the public schools are populated by children with Hispanic surnames. In rural, central California those numbers are near 85%. After March 2003, more than 50% of the newborns in California had Hispanic surnames as opposed to approximately 15% before WWII.
Approximately 85% of California's residents with Hispanics surnames are the result of illegal immigration since WWII. The state's percentage of residents with Hispanic surnames stayed relatively constant (15%) from the turn of the century until the advent of the Bracero Program in the 1960's. The initial inflow of unregulated Mexicans into California that followed the Bracero Program, came not from California's border with Mexico, but from migration through Texas.
A specialist in the business world is defined as someone:
1) Who no one has met previously.
2) Lives at least 50 miles from here.
Boy You really do have delusions of grandeur!
Go ahead, make my millenium and NOTE me in your little black book of freepers who don't measure up for you...ooooh I'm skered.
I wonder who died and left you in charge of what other's are allowed to think? Perhaps, you need to take a chill pill and get over yourself.
Oh and BTW....
Tony Snow's opinions on illegal imigration suck, so put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Great Analysis.
I'm very skeptical of this Professor. We've been down this road before, where social "Scientists" come up with studies and polls that we find out later were results driven and highly suspect.
IOW, I think the professor is pulling numbers out of his hat.
Yes. It is all about getting the vote. In this country, we have elections. And we have two major parties, the GOP and the Rats. GOP good, Rats bad. Real bad. With me so far? If these people don't vote GOP (good guys), they vote for the Rats (bad guys). If enough of them vote for the Rats, the Rats win. And then we are totally hosed. Hosed on the Supreme Court, hosed on taxes and spending, hosed on national security, hosed on the war on terrorists. Hosed on every single issue that matters politically. And this positively sucks. Believe me, you don't want this.
The people who ignore the politics here are simply clueless. It is all about the politics. Instead of bemoaning this fact, embrace it and use it to your advantage.
"U.S. households headed by illegal aliens used $26.3 billion in government services during 2002 but paid only $16 billion in taxes, an annual cost to taxpayers of $10 billion, says a report issued yesterday by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS)."
According to the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), California alone pays out 10.5 billion dollars a year for the "education, health care and incarceration of illegal aliens."
And according to the Center for Immigration Studies, Welfare payments, including food stamps to Illegal immigrants in Arizona cost us $4,698,000 in 2001.
Not only do immigrants use welfare programs at higher rates than natives, their use of the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) is also substantially higher than that of natives. With an annual cost of $32 billion, the EITC is the nation s largest means-tested cash assistance program for workers with low incomes. Persons receiving the EITC pay no federal income tax and instead receive cash assistance from the government based on their earnings and family size.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/mexico/means.3.gif
Figure 14 reports the percentage of households using at least one major welfare program or the Earned Income Tax Credit for households headed by Mexican households based on how long the household head has lived in the country. The figure shows that Mexican households use means-tested programs at double the rate of natives, even when they have lived in the United States for many years.
The issue can be demagogued, but it can't be lost.
My friend's cousin was raped by an illegal alien, and committed suicide shortly there after.
My friend's cousins uncle was stabbed by an illegal alien.
My friend isn't happy about illegal immigration.
Yes, I'm sure they contribute to the economy...but that doesn't nessarily mean me. Afterall, you have to think there are still many industry workers that are legal, and actually have competitive wages. My mother side is full of farmers, whom work till this day. They compete against farmers that have illegals. I'm sure the prices of product are similiar, except most of the profit goes into those employee hands...by exploiting the situation. Since you have a mixed market of free-labor, and mass cheap labor, you'll find that prices won't go downwards all that much.
I nearly equate this with southern slavery and nothern free-labor industry. They don't make sense together, and really antagonize trade, and labor. I'm not fond if this unground market of par-level slavery...we need to send a message to mexico that they have to fix their own @hit.
The CPI indicates we've had a good hand on inflation of food since 1982, and at that point in time we've didn't have the illegal immigration problem we have now.
http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/1999/jun/wk5/art01.htm
http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2004/may/wk4/art05.htm
If you really want to get into further reading. This one suggest that, "These comparisons suggest that labor cost inflation is not a consistent predictor of cyclical upswings and downswings in general consumer price inflation. As a result, analysts should use caution when interpreting cyclical swings in labor costs growth rates--as recent history shows, price inflation may enter a cyclical upturn before labor cost inflation does."
http://www.bls.gov/opub/cwc/print/cm20050517ar01p1.htm
Well, that right there justifies suspending due process, criminalizing millions of people, building a multi billion dollar wall with machine-gun nests, and declaring martial law. The administrative costs for AFDC and Food Stamp benefits run in excess of 25%. 3% and 2% seem a little low, actually.
The concerns over health-care and disease are well founded. Bringing people out of an underground economy improves public health. In a perfect world, people would adhere to the process of having a health check and requesting a visa. It did not happen in many of these cases. We can not un-ring the bell.
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