Whose Backlash?

RealClear Politics ^ | 03/31/06 | Victor Davis Hanson

[peyton randolph]

Most Americans I talked to in California summed up their reactions to the marches as something like, 'Why would anyone wave the flag of the country that they would never return to--and yet scream in anger at those with whom they wish to stay?' Depending on the particular questions asked, polls reveal that somewhere around 60-80% of the public is vehemently opposed to illegal immigration.

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There are over 300 million resident Americans, and the vast majority of them are citizens. Had the demonstrators marched chanting "God Bless America," confined their flag waving to Old Glory, and expressed thanks to a magnanimous United States that gave them a second chance when a corrupt Mexico has precluded their first, then they would have won public support.

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Yes, illegal immigration provides a valuable source of cheap labor. But such jobs are not just those Americans will never take, but comprise work that they won't seek out at such cheap wages. Where compensation rises, citizen workers will follow.

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Unless we curb the present influx, return to the melting pot, and salvage a legal remedy from the present illegal disaster, what we saw this week may only be the beginning of something far more dangerous from both sides of this avoidable crisis.

 

[mountainlyons]

Some say that Mexico has the right to take back what they see as their country that was lost to war. The Spaniards that came to America were after gold and murdered and destroyed many cities. They destroyed the American Indian culture. Now the Mexicans want to come for our "gold" and destroy our culture. If you really believe that they have a right to the land then you have to believe that the Native Americans have more right to this land than the Spaniards and Mexicans.

[MarkL]

The Liberals scream that this is "the worst economy since the Depression," but at the same time call for the Amnesty of the 11+ million illegals in this country because they are doing jobs that America needs (i.e., cutting lawns, etc.)

The company that cuts my lawn is made up of 2 teams of 3 guys each. They charge me $25 to cut my lawn. I was here once when they did it. They unloaded 2 of those fast power motors that you stand up and drive, while the third guy uses a weed-eater. It takes them less that 10 minutes to mow my lawn (they don't bag it) from the time they pull up until they pull out. They do a good job, and they're all US citizens. They manage to make a pretty good living, from what they tell me, though it is hard work.

Can anyone explain the logic of a Liberal?

Liberals don't use logic, because it would refute their beliefs.

Mark

[Tolik]

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[maica]

Bring back 8track music, mainframe computers, banking hours, landline telephones, 3 tv networks, etc etc

...don't wish for what is past, work for the future.

[maica]

So what fails and what works? Bilingual education in our schools, multicultural romance about a mythical Aztlan in our universities, guest worker programs that institutionalize helot status, salad-bowl separatism, and millions who cross the border illegally, all have contributed to the present disaster. But as we see with second- and third-generation model Mexican-American citizens, English immersion, acceptance of an American identity, integration, intermarriage and assimilation, legal and monitored immigration in the thousands from Mexico--all that guarantees immigrants success and energizes us the host.

VDH brings so many life experiences to this debate. He really is the voice that I respect the most.

[AmericaUnite]

Thanks for the ping.

[Kozak]

I've emailed both my senators (hopeless I live in Wi), Frist, and called my congressman that this is a top priority for me and my family, that I will not support the GOP unless they support closing the border, no amnesty. This is the issue I will part ways with the GOP on unless they get with it.

[Let's Roll]

Worst economy etc... is the stablemate to insisting that Bush allow NO domestic drilling or production while at the same time blaming Bush for high oil prices.

I guess they think voters don't notice their pre-school logic.

[politeia]

Unfortunately, our government will fail us on this issue. We are truly witnessing a process that will rip apart this once great Republic.

This argument over illegal immigration goes to the heart of our American project of self-government. It is about the people reasserting their sovereign rights as citizens to govern themselves through democratically enacted legislation. It is about whether the people's will (and not that of a wealthy and unaccountable ruling elite) will be honored by our elected officials and whether our democratically enacted laws will be enforced by our chief executive -- the President. In short, it is about whether the 219 year old experiment in republican self-government won for us by our founders will be declared officially null and void and replaced by the rule of a political and business oligarchy that substitutes its private interest and agendas for the common good.

"We the people" have made our wishes to control our borders and prevent businesses from hiring illegal aliens loud and clear for decades yet we have had imposed on us by our elected officials an open borders, no enforcement policy that we have rejected time and again. We need a majority of the House members to loudly call for the President to protect our borders and stop trying to force an amnesty program down our throats again. If the President refuses to perform his oath of office and enforce our democratically enacted laws then the House should bring impeachment charges.

Americans are being victimized every day at the hands of criminal illegal immigrants and the President and Congress share blame in each and every crime an illegal immigrant commits as well as for all the economic harm caused by the illegal invasion of our nation. By his ongoing failure to enforce the democratically enacted laws against illegal immigration President Bush has shown his contempt both for democratic self-governance and the American people. His arrogant refusal to perform his constitutional duty should be met with the one remedy provided by the Constitution to protect the people against the usurpation of their legislative authority -- impeachment. It is now well past time for Congress to assert the rights of the American people to self-government.

[JamesP81]

Had the demonstrators marched chanting "God Bless America," confined their flag waving to Old Glory, and expressed thanks to a magnanimous United States that gave them a second chance when a corrupt Mexico has precluded their first, then they would have won public support.

And if this were their real attitude, most of us wouldn't have a problem finding some way to legalize them.

But it isn't their attitude. They think we owe them something.

To quote a much more eloquent man than myself, an illegal immigrant is no more an undocumented immigrant than a rapist is an undocumented boyfriend.

[JamesP81]

Unless we curb the present influx, return to the melting pot, and salvage a legal remedy from the present illegal disaster, what we saw this week may only be the beginning of something far more dangerous from both sides of this avoidable crisis.

If we don't do something, it's going to start looking like Israel around here, except instead of hearing 'Allahu Akbar!' before someone blows himsef up it's going to be hearing 'Aztlan libre!'

[neverdem]

cb wrote:

Bush was never a conservative, but would you really have voted for algore or kerry(vietnam?)?

I really worry that we have created our own little plo or is it mlo??? This threat I don't think I can ignore.

My, my...it sounds like your reading my mind.

Jo Nuvark wrote about a demonstration in Washington, D.C. on the Sunday of Memorial Day weekend here.

Posted by Supernatural to abigailsmybaby; TheForceOfOne; Jo Nuvark; All On News/Activism 03/30/2006 11:36:57 AM PST · 124 of 138

RE: MILLION AMERICAN MARCH ON WASHINGTON

I just emailed Rush, Jim Quinn and Rose from the Quinn show.

Email addresses are:

Rush: rush@eib.net

Quinn: quinn@warroom.com

Rose: rose@warroom.com

Savage: paulreveresociety@yahoo.net

Savage is next on my list. Here is what I have already told the others.

Hi, Rush (or whichever one the email is to).

A bunch of people at the FRee Republic (www.freerepublic.com) are trying to organize a national protest of the illegal alien situation at the Washington, D.C. Mall on the Sunday before Memorial Day.

Events there would include the burning of the Mexican flag and guest speakers denouncing the illegal alien situation. Hopefully some politicians can be persuaded to come and speak.

We are hoping that you could announce this on your radio show to see what kind of support it would generate.

If 500,000 illegals and their supporters can gather on the streets of L.A. we should be able to do much better.

Thanks for any support you can give this idea.

Name address phone number I think we have enough talent available on FR to pull it off.

52 posted on 03/30/2006 4:17:28 PM EST by Jo Nuvark

IMHO, it's time for the descendants of the Silent Majority to get up off their asses and be THERE AND BE HEARD!

The time is long since past that we have let all the wackjobs of the left and their islamofascist fellow travelers have a monopoly on REALLY BIG political demonstrations!!!

If you have a ping list, why don't you spread the word?

[Isabelle]

It would be easy to deport millions of illegals -- we just need the will.

Your right. It was done in the early 1950's. It was called "Operation Wetback" definitely not PCand not my term, anyway it was done then it could be done today.

[Jo Nuvark]

Doug from Upland is promoting a mailer campaign. I was thinking of using this (courtesy of peyton randolph)...

Using a pink card (i.e. a "pink slip")

Dear (fill in)

If you wish to remain in your legislative
position any longer, the following is required.

No amnesty to illegals. Not now. Not ever.
Secure the borders. Deport illegals.
Allow LEGAL immigrants who stood in line
to get here, have more to contribute, and
WANT to assimilate.

Or... lose the House and Senate in November.

Registered Voter
Name
District

[BlessedByLiberty]

We're in wine country and talking to neighbors about steps we can take to push Pelosi, Boxer and Feinstein (our Wicked Witches of the West) to defy their liberal instincts and personal investments (wineries, restaurants, etc.)

Taking pictures of: day laborers, of our neighborhood transformation into a barrio, ignoring day-to-day laws, etc., - parking in front of fire hydrants for ex.

We're calling the zoning commission and asking if we're zoned for boarding houses or inns. When they say no, we're letting them know that homes around here, sold to families, are housing 12 and more adult males with the families.

We're going to send copies of the letters and enclosures to the Congressmen on the right side of the issue as well.

Small but important steps.

[doug from upland]

Looks good. My campaign is actually calling businesses and threatening not to patronize them unless they convince you that they are not hiring illegals.

[Jo Nuvark]

I have a question.

I let my undocumented house keeper go to search for a documented replacement. I called services and asked if they pay taxes. I settled on a company that I was satisfied to be a legitimate, licensed, tax paying company.

I am now fairly certain that the workers they send are undocumented. I pay the company, but THEY are hiring illegals. Does that make me an employer who hires illegals?

[Supernatural]

"But such jobs are not just those Americans will never take, but comprise work that they won't seek out at such cheap wages".

I used to work for U.S. Steel at the Clairton Works. It was the second larges coke producing plant in the world at the time.

There were many jobs there that were foul and unpleasing beyond description. Coke ovens so hot that you had to wear protective clothing and wooden soles on your shoes three inches high to keep from getting burned.

Blast furnace jobs, rolling mill jobs...

They were all tough work but THEY ALL PAID GOOD MONEY! A person could buy a decent home and raise a family on the money.

But if the money wasn't good enough, people wouldn't have worked there.

Americans will do ANY job if the money is good enough.

The jobs Americans don't want to do are low paying jobs that don't pay the bills.

Make all the jobs low paying enough and there will be no Americans working and all the jobs will be taken by illegal aliens.

And the middle class of working people in this country will be destroyed.

Which is exactly what the politicians in this country seem to want.

If I can figure this out, if anyone foolish enough to believe that our politicians can't figure it out?

[neverdem]

I finally listened after the 3rd time it was on. She wasn't as dumb as I expected.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/congress/jan-june06/pelosi_3-30.html

[neverdem]

BTW, the post card idea should get some attention!