Posted on 03/30/2006 2:31:49 PM PST by Irontank
I was all ready to help for 08 but for the life of me I just can't see doing it. I have just lost so much faith in Bush when he is suppose to be the man in charge of security.Does anyone know of anyone who has the guts to put the American people first!
A guest worker program that takes eleven years for the worker to become a citizen doesn't seem all that unreasonable to me.
But, I've never been closed to alternatives to the "let's-kick-'em-all-out" crowd.
Anyone who thought a bill like HR 4437 would survive in the Senate was dreaming, especially with its draconian penalties against humanitarian organizations (like churches) that work with illegals.
All or nothing, once again, get's us nothing.
It will be something to watch the GOP burn due to Bush. All the Bushbots will wonder why he lost a majority in both houses. And will not believe that their guy is one of the most ignorant and stupid presidents to ever hold the office. If we can just make it through 08 without having Bush destroy the whole country will be an incredible feat.
I encourage everyone to flood Tancredo with supportive e-mail, snail mail, donations .... whatever it takes to make Bush, et al, realize that they are not on the side of the majority in this matter.
I don't think many people have problems with a guest worker program as long as (a) employers pay prevailing wages (ie taxes, FICA, etc) instead of paying under-the-table, (b) guest workers are properly documented, (c) being a guest worker has no bearing on citizenship.
Amnesty is the worst of all possible worlds. If a bill isn't enacted this year, then at least the status quo still regards illegals as 'illegals' instead of being placed on a citizenship track.
Everyone raise their hand who is voting next time around.
I'm voting in 06, and again in 08. So can you. See the tagline.
So you're voting for the donks then?
It will be in 2008, that's for certain.
I got criticized here for calling the Boomers a generation of locusts.
I think I'm vindicated now. There is nothing the Boomers won't put on our tab.
The Constitution Party believes we shouldn't have an Air Force. It's gonna be pretty hard to attract mainstream America to that notion.
But good luck with that.
It will be something to watch the GOP burn due to Bush. All the Bushbots will wonder why he lost a majority in both houses. And will not believe that their guy is one of the most ignorant and stupid presidents to ever hold the office. If we can just make it through 08 without having Bush destroy the whole country will be an incredible feat.
So you support the Cindy Sheehan/Osama Party then?
Ever heard of primaries, or are you really a Moveon.org clown?
None of what you claim will have any meaning if you get rid of all the illegals.
What i'm saying is, eliminate the illegal government social programs ie. SS, Medicare, welfare, food stamps, housing, etc., force out all illegals, and the government doesn't need the funds that it currently spends.
If you eliminate all the freebies that allow americans to not work there will not only be more than ample people to "do the jobs that americans don't want" but an excess clamoring for them if they don't want to starve to death.
Bush can take his conpssonate BS and shove it, in the real world it's called socialism.
"So who in the hell will we vote for in 2008?? I sure hope a REAL conservative emerges before then."
How about
Rep. Tom Tancredo ?
Unfortunately there are only 2 political choices to us measley voters.
Elect the the dims who will open the flood gates.
Or keep the pubbies who'll leave the back door cracked.
..arrest anyone that aids or hires one including homeowners...
gonna be building a lot of jails, wonder how many illegal workers you will need to finish them?
"Agreed, but don't you think Bush knows that too?"
Perhaps.
But he can't be re-elected, so he doesn't have anything to lose.
Also, it's mainly due to the War. If the war were going well, Bush would be a hero across the country with strong public opinion polls and Republicans would be flying high on the national security issue.
But it's not, and they're in the doghouse with the President in the national perception.
In that environment, everything ELSE, like this, is an irritant.
Bush has had the same immigration policies since 2000, but the whole thread turned out to vote for him and his party, with the current policies, in 2004. Because of the War.
The issue is interesting, but it's the War that is costing the Republicans the farm. If something dramatic and positive happens, and it has to happen very soon, then Bush and the Republicans will get a new lease on life.
Otherwise, grimness.
You do know that Hispanics, especially Mexicans, vote overwhelmingly Democrat.
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,
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There better be a lot of them, because there sure as hell won't be many concervatives voting for these Whores.
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