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Bush burns his base on the borders
Star-Ledger ^ | March 30, 2006 | Paul Mulshine

Posted on 03/30/2006 2:31:49 PM PST by Irontank

Imagine that you and several thousand of your closest friends decided to sneak into Mexico illegally. And imagine you then gathered in one of the largest cities, waving American flags and blocking traffic. Imagine you demanded in English that the Mexicans change their laws to accommodate you.

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Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado is engaging in what amounts to open warfare with the White House on the issue. His aide Will Adams told me yesterday that Tancredo and other House conservatives intend to block any bill that contains either amnesty or guest worker provisions.

....Bush always has had ample authority to solve a relatively manageable problem with illegal immigration.

"I'm not sure what about this guy is conservative anymore," says Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies. "He appointed a couple good judges and that was it -- and he almost blew one of those chances."

Krikorian was alluding to the Harriet Miers fiasco, one of a tri fecta of Bush blunders that have alerted conservatives to his true nature. The second was the Dubai ports controversy. The third is this push for immigration amnesty.

Krikorian advises Bush to cut his losses and accept a tough enforcement bill. Once that 700-mile fence is up on the southern border, Bush might revive his push for that amnesty that he re fuses to call an amnesty.

"A lot of ordinary Americans might swallow it if it were presented as a second step after enforcement was in place and if it weren't demanded as a right but as a result of illegals begging the forgiveness of the American people," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bushrobusteza; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; mexico; mulshine
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To: PRND21

No compromise =no bill= no change = BIG BUCKS FOR TANCREDO


21 posted on 03/30/2006 2:48:29 PM PST by bybybill (RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: Irontank

Border security F-I-R-S-T ! Then we can talk "guest worker," etc. Only then.


22 posted on 03/30/2006 2:51:55 PM PST by LK44-40
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To: Die_Hard Conservative Lady

"I've already started that, they won't get a dime from me, until I see a true turn around."

You'll see the turnaround in November: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.


23 posted on 03/30/2006 2:52:10 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: griffmorpho

I don't think it's a matter of politicians not caring. I think they care a great deal. In fact, if you think about it, the U.S. needs the tax base to help support all of the baby boomers who will be heading into retirement. If the U.S. made it easier for immigrants to get a visa, we would be preventing problems that countries such as Japan has with one third of its citizens over the age of 65.

U.S. citizens are simply not re-producing fast enough, and taxes aren't decreasing. The baby boomer generation is going to totally screw over my generation (gen Y) if this bill gets passed! Think about all the debt we've accumulated with the Bush Administration. Who do you think is going to have to pay that back? People like me! My generation needs all the help it can get to pay that off! So let 'em in!


24 posted on 03/30/2006 2:54:17 PM PST by courtinwi
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To: stopem
'Here's My Donation!' by Jay D. Dyson
25 posted on 03/30/2006 2:55:52 PM PST by Icelander (Legal Resident Since 2004)
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To: Icelander


SOLD OUT!


26 posted on 03/30/2006 2:56:18 PM PST by Herakles (Liberals are stone stupid and proud of it!)
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To: Bean Counter; All

However, there want be wall or anything now. I think alot of people that wanted a wall have missed the boat on this one. There could have been a compromise that would have given that and would have been good for business interest and didnt inflame the hispanic community. Oh well thats life. Now the result is there will be no bill and conservatives are calling other conservatives traitors. There is a reason I stay away from these immigration threads. There is no rational thought or discussion. I going to return to the magical world of March Madness till Tuesday and give politics a rest. I will return to watching ourselves eat our own next week. Geaux Tigers and Geaux Gators.


27 posted on 03/30/2006 2:57:03 PM PST by catholicfreeper
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To: Spottys Spurs

So who in the hell will we vote for in 2008?? I sure hope a REAL conservative emerges before then.


28 posted on 03/30/2006 2:57:09 PM PST by travlnmn41
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To: yellowdoghunter

This new breed of "republican" worships at the altar of the dollar. Whatever is good for their pocket, that's it. They would sell their mother for a dollar if they could.

God forbid you say anything you are branded a commie or DU member. What these idiots fail to acknowledge is that the whole premise of capitilism is that you are dealing with some sort of decency and standards. A free for all will end in chaos and anarchy like South America.

As far as I am concerned, I will never volunteer my time again for the GOP. I did it twice, no more.


29 posted on 03/30/2006 2:58:45 PM PST by chris1
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To: griffmorpho

Because all they want are greenbacks and wetbacks. That's it. $$$$$$$$$$$$


30 posted on 03/30/2006 2:59:26 PM PST by chris1
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To: catholicfreeper
oh well, no compromise and the result no bill. Its is beyond me how people dont see this.

Frankly, I think it's pathetic that George W. Bush would hold the National Security of the American People hostage to his stinking cheap labor program.

And I'M the one who is supposed to "compromise"????

NO WAY.

31 posted on 03/30/2006 3:00:14 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!!)
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To: travlnmn41

They don't even call me anymore.


32 posted on 03/30/2006 3:00:17 PM PST by chris1
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To: Vicomte13

The TRUTH hurts!

LLS


33 posted on 03/30/2006 3:00:26 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: travlnmn41
No real conservative will emerge and most people who are ticked off at the border issue will not vote. Most of my neighbors are saying let the Mexicans vote republican.
34 posted on 03/30/2006 3:01:01 PM PST by jlasoon
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To: Icelander
The following was sent to my senators (whatever good that will do) and to my Representative. Fell free to copy and send to yours also.

I’voe vote republican the last quarter of a century at each election.

I do not want a guest worker program

I do not want the illegals in my country (illegal means NOT legal, and it should not take a rocket scientist let alone a politician who has a law degree to understand that illegal means UNLAWFUL!)

I want these people out of my country.

I want English to be the official language.

I want any employer caught hiring illegal immigrants to have his business confiscated.

I want a wall on the border, and I want the government to enforce the current laws by getting rid of the illegal immigrants.

I also want any politician who has sworn to protect the United States from enemies both foreign and domestic to do the right thing and resign since they have failed to protect my country from the largest foreign invasion in history!
35 posted on 03/30/2006 3:02:38 PM PST by Herakles (Liberals are stone stupid and proud of it!)
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To: jlasoon

Its not only the border, its spending, CFR, drug bill, etc etc.

I don't see one reason to vote for the GOP over the RATS other than WOT on the margin.

I remember some on this board thinking they were having to make space for GWB on Rushmore?????????

Yeah right!


36 posted on 03/30/2006 3:03:34 PM PST by chris1
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To: griffmorpho
A majority of Americans support deporting illegal aliens and securing the border, and have so for years.

The reason politicians don't care about illegal immigration is because, while the people care about the issue, they don't vote on the issue. It is never in the top five of issues among voters during presidential campaigns.

37 posted on 03/30/2006 3:04:22 PM PST by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

"You live like a king yet refuse to pay an honest, working American a decent wage to work for you."

What is the definition of living like a king?
What do you think is a fair wage is for a farm worker, doing what job?
How much do YOU know about farming?


38 posted on 03/30/2006 3:04:47 PM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: sinkspur

Gay marriage, now there a real reason to vote GOP.

Forget about millions flooding this country to sack it financially, no, gay marriage, that's it.

This is so freaking sad.


39 posted on 03/30/2006 3:05:57 PM PST by chris1
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To: bybybill
No compromise =no bill= no change = BIG BUCKS FOR TANCREDO

Exactly.

40 posted on 03/30/2006 3:06:07 PM PST by PRND21
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