A Mysterious Death at The Hague

The Chronicles Magazine ^ | 24 Mar 2006 | Srdja Trifkovic

[Red6]

That's an ignorant argument.

There were Volksdeutsche Poles, Lithuanians, even Americans fighting in the Wehrmacht in WWII. What's your point?

Again, as mentioned above several times. To try to prove your point you have to reach out into the realm of absurd, you guys take the argument to the point where it's ridiculous to try to prove your point. Applying your reasoning, the US was on Germany's side in WWII. Why not? I’m only taking it a “bit” further than you did.

[DTA]

>>>To try to prove your point you have to reach out into the realm of absurd...<<<<<

I do not have to. You have proved the point for me. You were being speciffically asked :

"Are you saying that the the death/rape camps in Bosnia were as real as Auschwitz/Treblinka were? Are you saying that the deaths of 200,000 Bosnian Muslims is as certain as the deaths of millions of Jews during WWII?"

You responded : ABSOLUTELLY!.

Basic principle of logic is that if A=B then B=A.

If "the deaths of 200,000 Bosnian Muslims is as certain as the deaths of millions of Jews during WWII", then "the deaths of millions of Jews during WWII is as certain as as the deaths of 200,000 Bosnian Muslims"

You say : ABSOLUTELLY.

That means that for you, an U.S. Army Officer, the deaths of millions of Jews during WWII is a lie.

Because 200,000 dead Bosnian Muslims is a lie. There were no 200 000 dead Muslims.

The total death toll in Bosnia civil war was 102,000. This is ICTY data.

You dare speak of villifying of the victims. And in effect you are exactly doing this by villifying the Serbs as a people with your fake Nazi comparrisons.

This is no different from Palestinian Arabs, Norwegians, Danes and other assorted Hitler allies calling Israelis "Jewish Nazis".

I call it Nazi revisionism. So does German legislation.

You may be arrested in Germany and Austria for that.

[DTA]

>>>>>>That's an ignorant argument.There were Volksdeutsche Poles, Lithuanians, even Americans fighting in the Wehrmacht in WWII. What's your point? <<<<<<<<

My point is that your posts are pure Nazi revisionism. It seems that smearing of the Serbs was not enough for you, so you have to smear the Poles as well.

Poles, Czechs, Serbs and Greeks were the only European people who did not provide volunteers for Hitler. Calling ethnic Germans from Poland "Poles" is the same as calling Auschwitz "Polish extermination camp". it is an attempt to attribute guilt to the Poles as a people, Poles who were Nazi Victims, NOT collaborators. You know, it is villification of the victims. Millions of Poles were Nazi victims.

Your act is dishonest. I doubt you are an U.S. officer.

[Red6]

I can’t keep up with this stupidity-

But another error stated here is that all Jews just gave up. That’s not the case. Many in the ghettos fought back. Many did not volunteer their lives.

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In the Balkans you had one side that was a belligerent. Serbia had no intentions to stop. They were the ones with the tanks. They had the fighters, they had the ADA, intell, the heavy artillery…… Most the firepower of the former YU was packed into Serbia which had NO intentions to stop.

Even when the first peace keepers were on the ground it became evident that they would be ineffective since they could only intervene if they themselves were threatened. So they sat their and “watched” as this was going on which you now deny.

I’m not saying that the Bosnians/Bosniacs etc are any better. Give them the ability or chance and they are just as bad and at times they did get the opportunity and did do bad things too. I don’t deny that there are “Islamist” elements that were and even ARE still there. In fact it’s known that volunteers from some Middle Eastern nations were going there to fight. But none of this justifies the actions of Serbia. It’s unwillingness to compromise to achieve peace and the systemic state sponsored and organized actions at that time were simply wrong. Serbia was calling the shots and only had to loose if a peace settlement was worked out. Hence the trouble was with Serbia and pre-programmed when Great Britain and Germany (The two biggest political forces behind intervention) began to push hard for a solution to the Balkan crises.

The Balkans was not my war. I know many who were there or went in for follow on rotations, but I myself was in the Middle East (Combat) and Korea (non-combat / up along DMZ). At one point I was part of an organization that was staged for East Timor so we sat in the Pacific but never did anything.

Germany in the Balkans can’t be blamed for doing anything wrong except:

a. Recognizing Croatia as a nation while YU was still on the political map. They helped accelerate the decay of YU.

b. They were to hesitant to tae action and only after flooded with 250,000 refugees did they develop the moral courage to possibly take military action to stop what is going on in the Balkans.

You won’t find me defending Germany in the Balkans. While they eventually did the right thing, it was still motivated by self-interest. This is the same nation which then 7 years after THEY call on NATO to solve their European problems say “No blood for oil” and block all action in Iraq, back peddle even in Afghanistan…… As in Serbia, Germany has a lot of good people, I am of German origin (Not a factor for me), but I will be the first to admit that the Germans earned little from WWII and despite saying “Nie Wieder (Never again)” looked the other way in Rwanda, or today in Somalia. The Germans have become a “Volk” centered around themselves. Again, as in Serbia, most people just want to live and have no trouble, but the “state” will sit there and watch as thousands are killed in Iraq and if they are asked to help they will scream “No blood for oil”. Do I have a lot of love or respect for this nations behavior in the last decade? No – So don’t make it sound like I have some love for them.

If you read through my posts in other threads you’ll see I’m consistent in my thoughts. But I’m not the issue.

Bottom line – according to people like you, Serbian MIGs kicked the crap out of the USAF (The truth is covered up in a grand multi-national conspiracy), Serbia was a victim of the Muslims (And there is a grand multi-national conspiracy to cover that up) and now Milosevic was murdered in another “conspiracy” with a multi-national cover up. Do people like you feel stupid? Of course not! They just keep marching on.

[A. Pole]

according to people like you, Serbian MIGs kicked the crap out of the USAF

What?

[Red6]

Admitting that a few Americans fought on the side of the Taliban does not make the US guilty of what the Taliban did.

Admitting that a few whacko Americans fought for the NAZI's (And they did) does not make the US a nation that supported the NAZI's.

Admitting that a few Poles sided with the NAZI's does not deny nor belittle the fights in Warsaw or the near hopeless battles against an overbearing enemy in 1939.

YOU MAKE MY POINT! It’s ridiculous! It’s ridiculous to say that all Bosnians/Croats were happy subjects of the NAZI’s because a “few” went along with it. I suggest you learn where Tito came from. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tito

The Bosnians are hate the Serbs, the Serbs hate the Bosnians. Nothing you do will change their views. Maybe with a lot of time they will not want to kill each other? God knows. But the simple fact was that Serbia was an obstacle to peace in the Balkans. They were the ones that had nothing to gain from it. They were the ones with the overwhelming military power. Everything else is qualifying these truths. All the references to WWII, the Islamists, bla bla bla is refocusing the attention from what really happened. You had one belligerent who was destabilizing a whole region. Who was pouring fuel on a fire in the Balkans that was spreading further even into Greece etc. You had literally over a million refugees and Germany alone took on 250,000. Something had to be done; and one party was not willing to compromise or concede anything. Therefore, while in reality, the Serbs are ethnically more like us, Christian, and the Bosnians were in reality no better if given a chance. It was the Serbs who were the ones with the tanks and airplanes and helicopters and were not willing to play along to achieve some solution other than us bombing them into it.

What else could we have done? Explain that.

[DTA]

>>>>>What else could we have done? Explain that.<<<<<

I assume that "we" represent U.S. government in 1992.

Lisbon agreement, brokered by Portuguese diplomat Cutillero provided a platform for peace in Bosnia BEFORE the civil war broke out. It was signed by all three sides. However, Bosnian Muslim leader Izetbegovic complained to U.S. Ambassador Zimmerman that he did not like the terms of Peace agreement. Zimmermann told him, if he does not like it, why he is not withdrawing his signature, U.S. will support him. Izetbegovic did, and the rest is history. Civil war broke out.

As a result, 102,000 Bosnian Muslims, Bosnian Croats and Bosnian Serbs died, in a civil war that lasted three years

It could have been prevented.

According to Nuremberg, Zimmerman and Izetbegovic are guilty of crime against Peace.

They were not indicted by ICTY. So much of this bogus "war crimes tribunal", 'the biggest war crimes tribunal since Nuremberg".

Your inistence on fake information is mind boggling. There were no "Bosnians" and "Serbs". Serbs in Bosnia are Bosnians also. There are only Bosnian Muslims, Bosnian Croats and Bosnian Serbs as warring parties.

The propagandists use this propaganda trick to mislead the audience in believing that the Serbs were aggressors in Bosnia. Aggressors in their own land. That is your main line. Wrong from the ground up. You got it all mixed up.

The problem with Nazi analogies you make is that in the Balkans, Nazi crimes are still living history, because there are still survivors.

When you speak of Bosnian Muslims being the sole victims, it is isensitive towards the all other victims in civil war.

Especially having in mind that Bosnian Muslims have started civil war in Bosnia.

[infidel_and_proud]

Red6, you wrote

"There are people who deny that the Holocaust ever happened. You fall into the same class with them. Ridiculous and pathetic"

So, you're comparing the Holocaust with Srebrenica I take it. O.K., let's look at the facts and see how closely the match up.

1) The Holocaust consumed 6,000,000 Jews. Srebrenica, even if we take the ICTY's numbers meant the death of around 6,000 muslims ( BTW the ICTY's case against the Bosnian Serbs is a joke but that's by the by )

So one tenth of 1%.

2) The Muslims had an entire division in Srebrenica. They were re equip-ed by helicopter and on foot. As the war progressed they became stronger.

Can the same be said of the Jewish inmates of Auschwitz? Did the Jews have an entire division within the camp?
Were they re equipped with anti tank missiles?

3) The 28th Muslim Division within Srebrenica was so powerful they almost linked up with the Muslim's main battle lines (the 2nd Corps) at Tuzla on a couple of occasions. In fact, earlier in 1995, they launched "Operation Grasshopper", the aim being to physically link up the Zepa and Srebrenica safe havens with TUZLA. They almost succeeded and were only repulsed after very heavy fighting.

Did the Jews in their concentration camps almost manage to link up with allied lines during WW2?

4) Oric's men torched the surrounding area (Prodrnje plateau) destroying 50 Serb inhabited villages in the process. They bragged of killing all Bosnian Serbs: women, children, OAP's.

They never took prisoners.

The Dutch soldiers would watch as the 28th Division would leave the safety of Srebrenica and then note that a couple of hours later, they'd see smoke coming from a neighboring Serb village.

Did the Jewish inmates of, say, Bergen Belson, torch the villages, killing all the ethnic Germans they found, women, children, the elderly?

And so the list continues.

The irony is it's you, Red6, who is intent on belittling the suffering of the Jewish people in WW2. You, if anything, are the Holocaust denier, for you compare that event with the deaths at Srebrenica.

ONE TENTH OF ONE %

Trust you to demean the memory of the Jews, Red6.

[joan]

Who was pouring fuel on a fire in the Balkans that was spreading further even into Greece etc.

What are you talking about? Nothing happened in Greece - you are making up things. There was no fighting in Greece. The war didn't even come close. Macedonia broke off in 1992 without any war and no fighting even spilled into that country until after NATO took countrol of Kosovo and Kosovo Albanians launched an attack from the UN/NATO governed Kosovo onto Macedonia in 2001 AFTER Milosevic was no longer in power.

[Red6]

(I’m writing fast and don’t have much time – sorry for error in grammer)

You mean the Srebrenica massacre? The event that never happened according to people like you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

You mean the massacre where alone there 8,500 people were murdered and the bodies recorded and identified? You mean that even which people like you claim were no Muslims and even try to pretend that it was Serbs?

You mean Srebrenica, the town declared a safe zone in 1993 and where Dutch soldiers watched as the events unfolded and you deny this ever happened?

http://www.srebrenica.nl/en/ (Go to past articles – there they report on the Dutch soldiers who WERE there and DID see the atrocities but could not intervene).

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There is talk here about how the Serbs were pushed out of their land-

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/bosnia.htm

Well, While I’m no hippy peacenik, maybe in this case it was Karma?

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The entire defense of the Serb actions are based on fallacies and shear rhetoric:

a. Taking an argument to an extreme point where it’s absurd. Example that is kind of related to this in a way. I debated with a German here and explained to him that their was a Global War On Terror. I gave him examples, logical arguments and and and as to why a lot of the events are interrelated and Iran, Syria etc are all part of the larger issue. His counter argument was that this would mean that you need to annihilate 1.2 billion Muslims. Bogus argument obviously. That’s taking a point to a ridiculous extreme to prove ones position but it is complete BS.

b. Make it all relative. “Well, the Serbs only killed 8,500 in Srebrenica (ALONE) and that’s not as bad”

c. The debate ALWAYS is channeled into a discussion about who started it, what happened 100 years ago, that this is part of the global Islamic threat and and and. The real issue MUST be sidestepped if you want to hold onto your position. It’s an unjustifiable position unless you go into the realm of “polemics”.

d. As I said before and as you guys did; a major aspect of your defensive argument is to just blatantly DENY everything. They when you do admit it, you try to make it “relative”. Again, like a NAZI who tries to say that in the US we had segregation or the Indians, you try to make the issue all blurry with this fuzzy logic.

The similarities between the Holocaust and what happened in the Balkans are scary.

-You have one side with all the firepower (Serbs).

-You had one side that was made guilty of all the wrong, evil and ill which the other side had (Suendenbock).

-You had one side that didn’t want to stop what they were doing and only the use of force was going to put an end to it.

-You had the STATE sponsored, organized, planned and executed destruction of another people under false pretences to create “Lebenraum” for the “Uebermensch” as the Serbs see themselves.

-You had one side that had a massive propaganda machine which for a nation that size was quite impressive (Like Goebels). http://www.serbia-info.com/news/1999-04/15/10894.html At the time they even had a mock/fake (look alike) NATO website which when you read it was all spun news. There was a reason why the Serb state run TV channel was targeted in March 99.

What’s most shocking about this is that this is in Europe, in the late 1990s! That the Germany who screamed “Never again” let this happen right on the door step and didn’t do anything until they themselves were adversely affected, that as the Balkans spiraled out of control, as Greece, Turkey and even Iran were more and more becoming involved, Russia backed their old ally the Serbs, the Germans quickly backed their buddies the Croats. Russia was back-dooring weapons into Serbia and and and. A madness you expect in the Middle East was unfolding in Europe!

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Most Americans don’t even know where Serbia is located. They simply don’t care much. I didn’t fight there, although I’ve been to YU on four occasions for leisure in the past. The Serbs will claim that the US picked sides: Obviously since we beat them into submission (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/kosovo_maps_air.htm ). Ironically the Bosnians are no different. They think we came too late, failed to protect them, and because they are Muslims were indifferent. Neither side is very appreciative of the US action in the former YU.

Are the Bosnians any better? Surly not. If given the chance many would do the same things. But the ones calling the shots where no a rag-tag Bosnian militia armed with a few AK’s. The arms restrictions on trade primarily hit those who were weak to begin with since the Bosnians were not getting arms delivers via Russia. Not until later did the Bosnians/Croats get a lot of heavy equipment. Much of it is old US surplus gear like M60A3 tanks. Some of the Croat officers are professionally trained in US schools in places like Ft. Knox.

Even here there is a lot of Irony. Bush Sr. who proposed an arming of the Bosnians and Croats was made to look like a war mongering blood thirsty animal in much of the European media. Ironically that is exactly what the Germans and others did later. And of course, just as the nuclear deterrence (Which worked very well), just like Libya and and and, they seldom go back and correct their statements. There were no apologies from the leftists like “Der Spiegel” but in the end the proposed idea of the Bush administration (Pre-Clinton who also attacked him in the elections for his position) were applied later and with success. Basically, you can not have a peace in that region without a balance of power and that includes outside forces.

Some relationships can ONLY be dealt with when there is a “Balance of power”. If S. Korea dropped it’s vigilance the North would attack them. Russia strong arms near all its former republics: Ukraine, Republic of Georgia, Belarus….. So to create this balance the Croats/Bosnians were armed. The M60A3 tanks the Croats have are no pre-war stock, neither is a lot of the other heavy equipment they have. From the Serb perspective it must all appear as if NATO picked sides. It’s rather that they just got in-between the war fighting parties. Since the Serbs were the ones dominating the fight and didn’t want to back down they were the ones to get one on the head.

But again, those arguing on the side of the Serbs will resort to arguments that sound more like my 4 year old arguing: “You started it first, NO you did!” It’ll turn into an emotional argument and will be full of semantics: “You can’t compare the Holocaust to the plight of the Bosnians!” (As you try to argue)

And again, let me reiterate this. I am not very appreciative of the Muslim faith. The Serbs are culturally more like me. The Bosnians if given the chance are just as bad and at times did do bad things. I know there was some Islamic sponsored influence in the Balkans. I agree that the Serbs to have a right to defend themselves. At this point let me use another analogy: Two guys are in a fight. Once guy is beating the piss out of the other and the police was called. The Police show up and tries to break up the fight getting in between the two parties. The guy dishing out the whoop-ass doesn’t feel quite satisfied yet and wants to keep beating on the other guy who’s just as much at fault for the fight. Now, who do the Police end up beating on? Does it mean the Police like the guy on the ground who’s getting beat?

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http://www.nato.int/fyrom/home.htm

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/kosovo1/2001/0828nato.htm

The problem WAS spreading to Macedonia and in 1993 ALREADY there were troops on the ground there. Why don’t you check up something called “Operation Able Sentry” on our friend Google (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=operation+able+sentry ). Eventually this force grew to 3,500 – 5,500 men on the ground.

As I have said over and over and over – ALL you guys keep doing is DENY DENY DENY and make counter accusations.

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Even the allegations that this was a US lead war is complete Non-sense. In the US there was widespread dissent for our involvement. Clinton came under fire from the Republicans, many US troops oppose being put under UN control and and and. The political forces behind action in the Balkans were the British and the Germans. Those two were the political engines driving the show.

So why did the US lead the air campaign, why was it even the US that led in the ground operations? CAPABILITIES.

We have SEAD capabilities that far overmatch anything which any NATO ally has. We have the C2 and C4I architecture capable of dealing with large-scale, multi faceted, multi-national campaigns in a full spectrum of operations raging from peace enforcement to major theater war. Was it really going to be a Tornado flying the high risk missions when the enemy IADS was still solid? No. When things began to get interesting in the Balkans and NATO was engaged, the US was basically being called on. It’s a matter of perspective. From the Serb perspective it’s a US led war, but in truth it was a European (Great Britain and German) initiative/push for this intervention. Something the Germans behind the intervention today want to downplay since it puts them in an awkward situation in light of Iraq and post 9-11 and their refusal to allow any NATO engagement on Iraq or their minimal effort in Afghanistan. From the US perspective all we got out of YU was “rocks”. Besides “rocks”, YU has ZERO to offer us. This campaign (big picture) cost us money, some lives and economically you can say we had no gain from it in any way. But in usual fashion you will deny it, make counter accusations, bla bla bla.

So let me recap: Grand conspiracy to start war. Grand conspiracy to cover up massive NATO air campaign losses and Serbian success. Conspiracy to lie about genocide which never happened. Conspiracy against Milosevic and his murder was covered up too (let’s not forget the original topic here). And where are the Serbs? Why of course, they are VICTIMS OF NATO AGGRESSION.

[DTA]

First of all, quantity is no replacement for quality of information. What you write is full of erroneous information, semitruths and outright lies.

I find it unnerving to think that such people can become U.S. officers.

Here is what you claim:

b. Make it all relative. “Well, the Serbs only killed 8,500 in Srebrenica (ALONE) and that’s not as bad”

This is outright lie. Bosnian Serbs did not kill 8500 Muslims in Sreberenica. Even Muslim propagandists say "8000". Killing armed men in combat is legitimate war objective.

c. The debate ALWAYS is channeled into a discussion about who started it, what happened 100 years ago, that this is part of the global Islamic threat and and and. The real issue MUST be sidestepped if you want to hold onto your position. It’s an unjustifiable position unless you go into the realm of “polemics”.

Bosnian Muslims created armed Patriotic League, 100,000 strong, under command of Sefer Halilovic (Commander Halil). It was not 100 years ago, it was in 1991, just before the war. Patriotic League was illegal military force and racist organisation (meant to erradicate Serbs). Following your logic and train of thought, Allies flattened German cities for no reason.

d. As I said before and as you guys did; a major aspect of your defensive argument is to just blatantly DENY everything. They when you do admit it, you try to make it “relative”. Again, like a NAZI who tries to say that in the US we had segregation or the Indians, you try to make the issue all blurry with this fuzzy logic.

It is your appeal to emotions (false Nazi analogy, Lebensraum, Goebbels etc.) that hope to blurry the facts. It is actually you who apply Nazi propaganda method: Majority of people will more easilly fall for a big lie than a small one. That is Hitler's teaching, used by an U.S officer today.

The similarities between the Holocaust and what happened in the Balkans are scary.

-You have one side with all the firepower (Serbs).

Another lie. Bosnian Patriotic league was fully armed beofre the hostilities started. Sarajevo was military garrison. So was Srebrenica.

-You had one side that was made guilty of all the wrong, evil and ill which the other side had (Suendenbock).

Before the war strarted, Bosnian Muslm magazine published a cartoon on a front page, depicting Serbs with severed heads and the title: The Fourth Reich is comming. It was an incitement to commit genocide, as per ICTR Rwanda ruling.

-You had one side that didn’t want to stop what they were doing and only the use of force was going to put an end to it.

What side? You had Bosnian Muslims bent to create Muslim Bosnia regardless of the cost. Hitler sacrificed 8 million Germans for Thousand Year reich. Izetbegovic was no different.

-You had the STATE sponsored, organized, planned and executed destruction of another people under false pretences to create “Lebenraum” for the “Uebermensch” as the Serbs see themselves.

What state? What lebensraum? Serbs owned 70% of Bosnian cadastre, arable lands and woodlands before the war. They merely wanted to keep what is theirs. Bosnian Muslims wanted to force them out. They were fighting for your lebensraum.

if you look at the census data made by Austro-Hungary, Kingdom of Yugoslavia, Tito's Yugoslavia and compare it with the census of today, it is evident that both Serb population and Serb owned land shrinked in Bosnia as a result of WWII genocide and Bosnian civil war.

-You had one side that had a massive propaganda machine which for a nation that size was quite impressive (Like Goebels).

Goebbels? You mean this guy?

He got reincarnated into this creature:

The lies comming from his mouth are perfect example of Bernay/Hitler school of persuasion. You are good example. You have fell for it hook, line and sinker.

There was a reason why the Serb state run TV channel was targeted in March 99.

Actually, it was in April 1999. It seems that you have never read UCMJ because bombing of civillian TV station was clear cut war crime per Hague convention on warfare on land. It is war crime. You are quite an officer, hell bent on commiting war crimes.

What’s most shocking about this is that this is in Europe, in the late 1990s! That the Germany who screamed “Never again” let this happen right on the door step and didn’t do anything until they themselves were adversely affected, that as the Balkans spiraled out of control, as Greece, Turkey and even Iran were more and more becoming involved, Russia backed their old ally the Serbs, the Germans quickly backed their buddies the Croats. Russia was back-dooring weapons into Serbia and and and. A madness you expect in the Middle East was unfolding in Europe!

You have no clue what you are talking about. You have no clue of timeline of the events. Your post reminds me of characters in Buffalo Soldiers movie, who sit in US Army barracks in Germany and watch fall of Berlin wall. One asks "what country is Berlin".

[infidel_and_proud]

Wonderfully funny.

You should showcase your ignorance. Who knows, maybe people will pay to hear your nonsense.

1) The ICTY themselves don't claim that all the missing Muslims were executed as you claim. We're talking of executions in the 100's. Low hundreds. It was in retaliation to the Muslims slaughtering 1,000's of Bosnian Serbs in Eastern Bosnia. A nasty civil war. Try reading about the nature of civil wars. This one was no different.

2) You support your argument by quoting WIKIPEDIA? That's a joke of a source with is quite apt, seeing as you're the one doing the quoting.

3) Why do you call an entire division ( the 28th Muslim Divisions in Srebrenica ) RAGTAG? Have you even heard of Operation "Grasshopper"? Of course you haven't, and do you know why I know? Because WIKIPEDIA doesn't mention it.

4) It was YOU, YOU who dared to compare the HOLOCAUST with SREBRENICA. YOU are the one making the ridiculous comparisons.

5) BTW, it was the Serbs enemies who threw their lot in wit the Nazi in WW2. Not that you'd know.

6) Do you know what the ICTY based their evidence on? An insane mercenary and the Bosnian Muslims very own eavesdroppers, who'd been trained by the IRANIAN VEVAK.

7) It's good to see that the Iranian Military Intelligence have supporters on FREEREPUBLIC. After all, it's a free country.

Try not to quote WIKIPEDIA or people will be forced to laugh at you.

[Lion in Winter]

Then WHY waste your "precious" time posting on this thread????

Find a thread supporting mussies and GO THERE!

[Lion in Winter]

And HERE you are STILL here!! What is wrong with you???

[Lion in Winter]

YOUR original sentiment was that YOU did not care... SO, why are you still prattling on and on??? Are you dim??

[Lion in Winter]

You have zero credibility too. Arn't YOU just an opinionated mussie supporter??

[Lion in Winter]

Hey, mussie... how's the dole in Europe???

[Lion in Winter]

Wikipedia is for mostly morons, don't you agree? The quality of those supporting the bosnian muslims is really low and slimey.

Where do they keep the rock from under which they crawl? Probably at mecca.

[nuconvert]

"What is wrong with you???" " Are you dim??"

I ask the same questions of you. Can't you see that people are writing to me? As you now are?
I was prepared to leave, but people kept writing me.
Maybe you are in the habit of allowing people to insult you and make accusations and ask you questions without replying.

I am not.

Have a nice day.

[Lion in Winter]

And, STILL you are here on a thread which is of no concern to you!!

LOL... bulb gone out??? Apparently so.