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To: A. Pole

I can’t keep up with this stupidity-

But another error stated here is that all Jews just gave up. That’s not the case. Many in the ghettos fought back. Many did not volunteer their lives.

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In the Balkans you had one side that was a belligerent. Serbia had no intentions to stop. They were the ones with the tanks. They had the fighters, they had the ADA, intell, the heavy artillery…… Most the firepower of the former YU was packed into Serbia which had NO intentions to stop.

Even when the first peace keepers were on the ground it became evident that they would be ineffective since they could only intervene if they themselves were threatened. So they sat their and “watched” as this was going on which you now deny.

I’m not saying that the Bosnians/Bosniacs etc are any better. Give them the ability or chance and they are just as bad and at times they did get the opportunity and did do bad things too. I don’t deny that there are “Islamist” elements that were and even ARE still there. In fact it’s known that volunteers from some Middle Eastern nations were going there to fight. But none of this justifies the actions of Serbia. It’s unwillingness to compromise to achieve peace and the systemic state sponsored and organized actions at that time were simply wrong. Serbia was calling the shots and only had to loose if a peace settlement was worked out. Hence the trouble was with Serbia and pre-programmed when Great Britain and Germany (The two biggest political forces behind intervention) began to push hard for a solution to the Balkan crises.

The Balkans was not my war. I know many who were there or went in for follow on rotations, but I myself was in the Middle East (Combat) and Korea (non-combat / up along DMZ). At one point I was part of an organization that was staged for East Timor so we sat in the Pacific but never did anything.

Germany in the Balkans can’t be blamed for doing anything wrong except:

a. Recognizing Croatia as a nation while YU was still on the political map. They helped accelerate the decay of YU.

b. They were to hesitant to tae action and only after flooded with 250,000 refugees did they develop the moral courage to possibly take military action to stop what is going on in the Balkans.

You won’t find me defending Germany in the Balkans. While they eventually did the right thing, it was still motivated by self-interest. This is the same nation which then 7 years after THEY call on NATO to solve their European problems say “No blood for oil” and block all action in Iraq, back peddle even in Afghanistan…… As in Serbia, Germany has a lot of good people, I am of German origin (Not a factor for me), but I will be the first to admit that the Germans earned little from WWII and despite saying “Nie Wieder (Never again)” looked the other way in Rwanda, or today in Somalia. The Germans have become a “Volk” centered around themselves. Again, as in Serbia, most people just want to live and have no trouble, but the “state” will sit there and watch as thousands are killed in Iraq and if they are asked to help they will scream “No blood for oil”. Do I have a lot of love or respect for this nations behavior in the last decade? No – So don’t make it sound like I have some love for them.

If you read through my posts in other threads you’ll see I’m consistent in my thoughts. But I’m not the issue.

Bottom line – according to people like you, Serbian MIGs kicked the crap out of the USAF (The truth is covered up in a grand multi-national conspiracy), Serbia was a victim of the Muslims (And there is a grand multi-national conspiracy to cover that up) and now Milosevic was murdered in another “conspiracy” with a multi-national cover up. Do people like you feel stupid? Of course not! They just keep marching on.


84 posted on 03/27/2006 6:45:49 PM PST by Red6
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To: Red6
according to people like you, Serbian MIGs kicked the crap out of the USAF

What?

85 posted on 03/27/2006 7:06:05 PM PST by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/ arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: Red6

Hey, mussie... how's the dole in Europe???


97 posted on 03/29/2006 9:51:44 PM PST by Lion in Winter (The older I am the more I want people to wake up and smell the coffee 'bout violent religions)
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