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U.S. and Iraqi Forces Clash With Shiite Militia, Killing at Least 17 ~ SADR Militia
New York Times International ^ | March 27, 2006 | JEFFREY GETTLEMAN

Posted on 03/26/2006 6:30:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

BAGHDAD, Iraq, March 26 — American and Iraqi government forces clashed with Shiite militiamen in Baghdad tonight in the most serious confrontation in months, and Iraqi officials said the fighting left at least 17 Iraqis dead, including an 80-year-old imam.

The fighting erupted at a very combustible moment in Iraq, with sectarian tensions rising, leadership problems deepening, and dozens of mutilated bodies continuing to surface on Iraqi streets today.

Another concern is that the clash could open an old wound, because the militiamen who were killed worked for Moktada al-Sadr, the radical Shiite cleric who has already led several bloody rebellions against American forces.

Security in Baghdad seems to be deteriorating by the hour, and it is increasingly unclear who is in control. Earlier today, the Iraqi Interior Ministry reported that American forces raided a secret prison and arrested several Iraqi policeman.

American officials have been more overt in the past week than ever in blaming Shiite militias, in particular Mr. Sadr's Mahdi Army, for a wave of sectarian bloodshed that seems to have no end. This morning, authorities in Baghdad discovered the corpses of 10 more men, all bound, blindfolded and shot.

As night fell, American and Iraqi Army forces surrounded a mosque in northeast Baghdad that is also used as a headquarters for Mr. Sadr's militia, Iraqi officials said. Helicopters buzzed overhead as a fleet of heavily armed Humvees sealed off the exits, witnesses said. When the soldiers tried to enter the mosque, shooting erupted, and a heavy caliber gun battle raged for the next hour.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: interiorministry; iraq; msm; nytimes; oif; sadr
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"sealed off by the US forces. Just what Marine_Uncle was calling for!"
Looks more like the only sealing off, was done by a few of Sadr's militia around his private home, down in Najaf, to protect the fat boy.
21 posted on 03/26/2006 8:03:32 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Heh... I was focused on the "imam" part.


22 posted on 03/26/2006 8:04:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: tgslTakoma

See the link just above, this has been coming.....the MSM wants a Civil War so BAD!!!


23 posted on 03/26/2006 8:04:37 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Which means of course that noone really knows what the hell happened there. Some jerkweeds starting shooting at Americans and these days that's a real sure way to get filled full of holes.

L

24 posted on 03/26/2006 8:13:41 PM PST by Lurker (In God I trust. Everyone else shows me their hands.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Shi'ites and Sunnis blow each other's mosques up but if our troops discover terrorist hiding or shooting our troops from mosques we are supposed to look the other way? No way! The gloves need to come off. The Islamic terrorist enemy must be attacked wherever they lurk.


25 posted on 03/26/2006 8:52:01 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Iraqi officials said the fighting left at least 17 Iraqis dead, including an 80-year-old imam

And the bad news is?
26 posted on 03/26/2006 8:55:33 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; MikefromOhio; Old Sarge; StarCMC
Oh, this little story caused all kinds of drama. Rumors ran rampant last night that over 400 terrorists were going to attack us at midnight (like terrorists are ever on time HA!) and this all sprang from the MSM's complete misreporting of the whole incident.

If U.S. forces had attacked that mosque (as the MSM initially reported), it would not have been damaged, it would have been a hole in the ground. ;-)

27 posted on 03/26/2006 9:29:17 PM PST by Allegra (37 days until R&R...)
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To: Allegra
If U.S. forces had attacked that mosque (as the MSM initially reported), it would not have been damaged, it would have been a hole in the ground

LMAO!! Allegra, you do have a way with words.

28 posted on 03/26/2006 9:36:11 PM PST by StarCMC (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing...thank you Sarge.)
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To: Allegra

Never a dull moment,.....thanks for reporting in.....near bedtime here!!!!


29 posted on 03/26/2006 9:39:02 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Allegra; All
This might be of interes (Hat tip to Powerline News ) :

March 25, 2006
Media's Defensive War
Media Madness
Hatched by Sachi

***************************AN EXCERPT**************************

President Bush is finally on offense again. He has realized that not only we are at war against global terrorism, but we are also at war against the anti-war, anti-American Antique Media, which -- whether subconsciously or with deliberation -- takes the side of our enemies.

As President Bush's offensive strengthens, the media's defensive strikes become increasingly hysterical. The MSM knows that their domination of American opinion is in trouble. When Gayle Taylor complained that no major media was interested in showing the DVD full of "good news" that her Army journalist husband Kent had collected during his year in Iraq, the President of the United States openly suggested that she turn to bloggers.

Wthin 48 hours, several popular bloggers were reporting the story, including Power Line. The result: CNN's Anderson Cooper and MSNBC's Chris Matthews swiftly invited the Taylors onto their respective shows, Anderson Cooper 360 and Hardball (to see video of the latter, go here and click "Railing on Reporters" in the column headed VIDEO: LATEST FROM 'HARDBALL'). The media moguls who had ignored Kent Taylor for months, both while he was in Iraq and when he returned to the States, were finally shamed by bloggers into actually listening.

But this challenge against the monopoly news was just one incident of a series of events, for the most part sparked by a radio talkshow host Laura Ingrahm's appearance on the Today show. Tim Graham explains in his column for National Review:

NBC’s question: "Is American getting a fair picture of what’s actually happening in Iraq?" Ingraham came out of the blocks with fire, doing something no conservative does who wants to be invited on TV ever again. She went straight at her hosts:

The Today Show spends all this money to send people to the Olympics, which is great, it was great programming. All this money for "Where In The World Is Matt Lauer?" Bring The Today Show to Iraq. Bring The Today Show to Tal Afar. Do the show from the 4th ID at Camp Victory and then when you talk to those soldiers on the ground, when you go out with the Iraqi military, when you talk to the villagers, when you see the children, then I want [challenge] NBC to report on only the IEDs, only the killings, only the reprisals....

[T]he interview caused a wave of reaction. Bill O’Reilly gave Ingraham another chance to push her message. Hugh Hewitt faced off with liberal reporters on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360. On NBC Nightly News, Andrea Mitchell did a defensive story....[where] George Packer and David Gergen to state the usual cynical media response: the White House is lashing out in desperation over its awful war and its awful polls.

In addition to the Andrea Mitchell story, several more defensive stories appeared on different networks:

NBC’s Richard Engel did a story discounting the "myths and misperceptions" that he only files stories from the balcony on insurgent successes and underlining all the daily dangers to journalists in Baghdad.... Engel proclaimed, "I think the security problem is the overall story," and insisted "most Iraqis I speak to…[think] the situation on the ground is actually worse than the images we project on television."

But Engel admitted in January, 2005 that he never reported the time a U.S. soldier risked his life to defend the reporter, one of the few times Engel ventured beyond the pale:

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See link for the rest of the story.................

30 posted on 03/26/2006 9:45:28 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Marine_Uncle; Dog
"Security in Baghdad seems to be deteriorating by the hour, and it is increasingly unclear who is in control."

Hilarious ankle-biting from the Times! This was a Saturday morning raid. 18 or so Mahdi Militia were killed, one hostage freed, and no Iraqi Army or U.S. fatalities (one IA soldier was wounded).

It's mid Monday in Iraq already. No protests. No counter-raids. All is calm.

Yet the U.S. news media is hyperventilating, pretending that Iraq is suddenly out of control.

Yawn...

31 posted on 03/26/2006 9:55:40 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
An official comment as to whether those killed were registered militia, Sadr supporters or plain 'ol Shia gunmen? I guess I have to take the press account that they were official registered (badged, ID) militia used for security.
32 posted on 03/26/2006 11:39:22 PM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Headlines have raised death toll to 81.


33 posted on 03/26/2006 11:51:23 PM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
American and Iraqi government forces clashed with Shiite militiamen in Baghdad tonight in the most serious confrontation in months, and Iraqi officials said the fighting left at least 17 Iraqis dead, including an 80-year-old imam including pregnant women nursing children and crippled senior citizens. US Troops were reported to have plucked the eyeballs from innocent bystanders and lanced their arteries to drink their blood. One instance of a soldier decapitating a 'victim' then using his head for a soccer ball was also reported.
34 posted on 03/26/2006 11:58:44 PM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH - PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED)
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To: Southack
It's mid Monday in Iraq already. No protests. No counter-raids. All is calm.

'Tis 11:02 a.m. in Baghdad and all is quiet.

Heard some distant explosions around 0730, but that's not too unusual and they were probably controlled detonations.

35 posted on 03/27/2006 12:01:47 AM PST by Allegra (36 days until R&R...)
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To: antaresequity

LOL! CNN is looking for people who can write copy like that.


36 posted on 03/27/2006 12:03:16 AM PST by Allegra (36 days until R&R...)
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To: Allegra; Marine_Uncle; endthematrix
Now that is very reassuring, guess the world has at least one more day left,.....

What about the note above that says 81 dead?

Guess I should check the BBC , they like those big numbers....

OK, Found this:

Many dead in US-Iraq base blast

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Last Updated: Monday, 27 March 2006, 14:23 GMT 15:23 UK
Many dead in US-Iraq base blast
Ambulance on way to blast site passes Iraqi soldiers in Humvee
The blast targeted a group of recruits, causing mass casualties
At least 40 people have been killed by a suicide bomb inside a military base housing US and Iraqi forces near the northern Iraqi city of Mosul.

The attacker struck at an Iraqi police recruitment centre at the base in Kisk. No Americans died, the US said.

Up to 30 people were hurt in the blast, which went off among a crowd of recruits, Iraqi officials said.

Mosul was the scene of a bombing at a military base in December 2004, when 18 Americans and four Iraqis died.

That attack was caused by a suicide bomber wearing an Iraqi uniform who detonated his explosives in a US mess tent.

Sporadic attacks

The BBC's Mike Wooldridge, in Baghdad, says attacks on army and police recruitment centres used to take place frequently.

Map showing Mosul and Talafar
However they have been much less common in recent times as the conflict in Iraq has become more sectarian in nature, he adds.

There were no immediate details on how the bomber breached the base's security, although latest reports suggest it was a suicide car bombing.

The village of Kisk, which houses the military base, lies between Mosul and Talafar.

Both towns have been the scene of much anti-US violence and unrest in the three years since the US-led invasion of Iraq.

US President George W Bush singled out Talafar in a recent speech as a success story in the campaign to quell the insurgency.

Mosul, not Baghdad...


37 posted on 03/27/2006 7:36:42 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: endthematrix; Allegra
OK, this has the number of 81:

March 27, 2006 at 2:26:10 PST
Wave of Violence Kills at Least 81 Iraqis

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Today: March 27, 2006 at 2:26:10 PST

Wave of Violence Kills at Least 81 Iraqis

By STEVEN R. HURST
ASSOCIATED PRESS

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -

0326dv-iraqviolence Police found 30 more victims of the sectarian slaughter ravaging Iraq - most of them beheaded - dumped on a village road north of Baghdad on Sunday. At least 16 other Iraqis were killed in a U.S.-backed raid in a Shiite neighborhood of the capital.

Accounts of the evening raid in Baghdad varied. Aides to the Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and Iraqi police both said it took place at a mosque, with police claiming 22 bystanders died and al-Sadr's aides saying 18 innocent men were killed.

The Americans said Iraqi special forces backed by U.S. troops killed 16 insurgents in a raid on a community meeting hall after gunmen opened fire on approaching troops.

"No mosques were entered or damaged during this operation," the military said. It said a non-Western hostage was freed, but no name or nationality was provided.

Associated Press videotape showed a tangle of dead male bodies with gunshot wounds on the floor of what was said by the cameraman to be the imam's living quarters, attached to mosque itself.

The tape showed 5.56 mm shell casings scattered about the floor. U.S. forces use that caliber ammunition. A grieving man in white Arab robes stepped among the bodies strewn across the blood-smeared floor.

Separately, 12 more bodies were found near Baghdad - nine handcuffed and blindfolded, with rope around their necks and three shot in the head, police said Monday.

The latest deaths brought to at least 81 the number of people reported killed Sunday and Monday in one of the bloodiest days in weeks. Most of the dead appeared to be victims the shadowy Sunni-Shiite score-settling that has torn at the fabric of Iraq since Feb. 22 when a Shiite shrine was blown apart in Samarra, north of Baghdad.

Much of the recent killing is seen as the work of Shiite militias or death squads that have infiltrated or are tolerated by Iraqi police under the control of the Shiite-dominated Interior Ministry.

Many of the victims have been found dumped, mainly in Baghdad, with their hands tied, showing signs of torture and shot in the head.

In an apparent effort to clamp down on police wrongdoing, American troops raided an Interior Ministry building and briefly detained about 10 Iraqi policemen after discovering 17 Sudanese prisoners in the facility, Iraqi authorities reported.

The report was reminiscent of a similar U.S. raid last November that found detainees apparently tortured. That discovery set off a round of international demands for investigations and reform of Iraqi police practices to ensure observance of human rights.

In this case the Americans quickly determined the Sudanese were held legitimately and had not been abused, said Maj. Gen. Ali Ghalib, a deputy interior minister.

The U.S. military command here had no immediate comment.

The raid in Baghdad came a day after U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad spoke out on the need to cap the sectarian, militia-inspired killing, saying "More Iraqis are dying today from the militia violence than from the terrorists." He did not say which militias he meant nor did he define who the terrorists were.

The two major militia forces in the country are Shiite organizations - the Mahdi Army of al-Sadr and the Badr Brigades, the armed wing of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq. Both have ties with Iran.

Hours before the raid in Baghdad near Sadr City, al-Sadr personally was the apparent target of a mortar attack at his home in the holy city of Najaf, 90 miles south of Baghdad.

At least one mortar round struck within yards of al-Sadr's home, wounding a guard and a passing child, said Sheik Sahib al-Amiri, an aide to the cleric.

Shortly after the attack, al-Sadr issued a statement calling for calm.

"I call upon all brothers to stay calm and I call upon the Iraqi army to protect the pilgrims as the Nawasib (militants) are aiming to attack Shiites every day," he said, referring to Wednesday's commemoration marking the death of the Prophet Muhammad.

Following the raid, Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari, a Shiite, expressed concern and telephoned Iraqi military leaders and U.S. Gen. George Casey to "discuss the situation," said spokesman Abdul Rezzaq Al-Kadhimi.

He said the prime minister promised government compensation for families of those killed in the raid and called for Iraqis to be patient until an investigation was completed.

Police Lt. Hassan Hmoud, who put the death toll at 22, said some of the casualties were at the Islamic Dawa Party-Iraq Organization office near the mosque. The incident started when U.S. forces came under fire from the direction of the mosque and the party office, he said. The party is a separate organization from the one headed by al-Jaafari.

Shiite legislator and party spokesman, Khudayer al-Khuzai, said 15 members of the party were holding a "cultural meeting" in an office near the Shiite mosque. "They have nothing to do with the acts of violence," he said.

Al-Khuzai claimed that after coming under attack, U.S. forces raided the party office, "tortured" the men, dragged them out and "executed" them. He said it was not clear who attacked the U.S. troops.

The main Shiite political bloc, the United Iraqi Alliance, would demand a quick investigation "because the Iraqi blood is not cheap," al-Khuzai said.

Lt. Col. Barry Johnson, a U.S. military spokesman, denied that the troops targeted a party office.

"The building was not a party headquarters but a community meeting room, and there was substantial intelligence on this building showing that that was not, in fact, what it was used for," he said.

In the north of the country, meanwhile, the Kurdish writer Kamal Karim was handed an 18-month sentence for articles on a Kurdish Web site that accused Masoud Barazani, one of the region's top leaders, of corruption.

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38 posted on 03/27/2006 7:41:52 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: All; Allegra; endthematrix

That AP report doesn't include the Mosul attack,...... next headline will be 121 killed ....


39 posted on 03/27/2006 7:45:16 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: All
raq minister says U.S., Iraqi troops killed 37
27 Mar 2006 13:16:19 GMT
Source: Reuters
BAGHDAD, March 27 (Reuters) - Iraq's security minister, a Shi'ite political ally of Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari, accused U.S. and Iraqi troops on Monday of killing 37 unarmed people in an attack on a mosque complex a day earlier.

"At evening prayers, American soldiers accompanied by Iraqi troops raided the Mustafa mosque and killed 37 people," Abd al-Karim al-Enzi, minister of state for national security, said.

"They were all unarmed. Nobody fired a single shot at them (the troops). They went in, tied up the people and shot them all. They did not leave any wounded behind," he told Reuters.

Shi'ite politicians had earlier said 20 people were killed at the mosque. The U.S. military's account of Sunday evening's incident said Iraqi special forces with U.S. advisers killed 16 "insurgents", arrested 15 people and freed an Iraqi hostage. The military denied entering any mosque.

40 posted on 03/27/2006 7:49:00 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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