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Steyn: Will we stick our necks out for his faith?
Orange County Register ^ | 25 Mar 06 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 03/25/2006 11:29:03 AM PST by rellimpank

Fate conspires to remind us what this war is really about: civilizational confidence. And so history repeats itself: first the farce of the Danish cartoons, and now the tragedy - a man on trial for his life in post-Taliban Afghanistan because he has committed the crime of converting to Christianity.

The cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad were deeply offensive to Muslims, and so thousands protested around the world in the usual restrained manner - rioting, torching, killing, etc.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afganistan; islam; marksteyn; muslim; religion; steyn
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To: davisfh
CORRECTION: "Islam and Western Civilization are not at all compatible" ONLY IF WESTERN LEADERS FORBID THIS FROM HAPPENING IN AFGHANISTAN.

I choose the word "forbid" in order to achieve clarity. We cannot allow this and must say we will not allow this. Much like the Brit in India regarding burning widows. Sovereignity is fine, just so long as they understand that the sovereigns are not allowed to do this.

41 posted on 03/25/2006 4:49:13 PM PST by ontos-on
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To: truemiester

When England had a spine!
----Do we now have a spine?


42 posted on 03/25/2006 4:50:29 PM PST by ontos-on
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
You're half right. The Pakis have nukes, but they can't get them here. The Chinese have, what, a half a dozen missiles? We have thousands.

islam is a cancer on mankind. It's time to start treating like we treat cancer. First with surgery, then with chemo and radiation.

L

43 posted on 03/25/2006 4:51:26 PM PST by Lurker (I trust in God. Everyone else shows me their hands.)
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To: Cicero
CORRECTION: It was not "most people". Bin Laden made an essentialistic comment. "When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they will like the strong horse."

Why, exactly, did you shrink from that meaning, with your "most people" modifier?

44 posted on 03/25/2006 4:55:18 PM PST by ontos-on
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To: Lurker

Are you going to participate in the genocide or just applaud from the sidelines?


45 posted on 03/25/2006 4:56:47 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

The Brits kicked the Afghan's butts in the Afghan war. They only lost the first round because they were led by an appeasing idiot who, in modern times, would be a spokesman for our State Department.


46 posted on 03/25/2006 4:57:01 PM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

The Americans kicked the Viet Cong's butts in the Tet Offensive. The Americans did not win the Vietnam War, and the British did not conquer Afghanistan.


47 posted on 03/25/2006 5:00:38 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: TR Jeffersonian

ping


48 posted on 03/25/2006 5:00:54 PM PST by kalee (E.T. Phone home)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
How?

By being the strong horse.

49 posted on 03/25/2006 5:02:10 PM PST by ontos-on
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
It's not genocide. Genocide implies that it's a 'race' and islam is not a race. It's islamocide and that makes it a pure case of self defense.

Get me close enough and I'll push the buttons with a smile on my face. We can start with that black rock they stampede around in Saudi.

One W-88 dialed up to about 250 kilotons right over Mecca at the height of the haj..that should calm the sons of mohamet (syphilitic pedophile that he was, p*ss be upon him)down for the next 5 or 6 hundred years.

L

50 posted on 03/25/2006 5:02:15 PM PST by Lurker (I trust in God. Everyone else shows me their hands.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

You think it is MAD with the USA and China? Boy! Are you out in space or something?


51 posted on 03/25/2006 5:06:14 PM PST by ontos-on
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To: ontos-on

of course, MAD = Mutually Assured Destruction. Which is not the case for the USA and any other country, at present.


52 posted on 03/25/2006 5:10:40 PM PST by ontos-on
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Are you going to participate in the genocide or just applaud from the sidelines?

It's not genocide, but survival. Was our genocide of entire cities of Germans and Japs unjustified?.

53 posted on 03/25/2006 5:34:18 PM PST by gotribe (Just tired of going easy on islam)
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To: rellimpank
--next to last paragraph is a great quote--

I liked this paragraph (excerpted here) ...

... the reality is that our society pays enormous respect to minorities - President Bush holds a monthlong Ramadan-a-ding-dong at the White House every year. The immediate reaction to the slaughter of 9/11 by Western leaders everywhere was to visit a mosque to demonstrate their great respect for Islam. ...

54 posted on 03/25/2006 5:37:46 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

The British most definitely DID conquer Afghanistan.

Then they decided it wasn't worth having.


55 posted on 03/25/2006 5:42:49 PM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: zeugma

Even at their worst, the Thugees were pikers in cruelty compared to most Muslims.


56 posted on 03/25/2006 5:45:23 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

"In 1841 the Afghans rose against the British in Kabul, killing both British agents and surrounding the British garrison. In early 1842 the garrison surrendered, and was offered safe conduct to return to India. However, the British force (made up mostly of the 44th East Essex regiment) was harassed down the Kabul River gorge and massacred at the Gandamak pass before reaching the besieged garrison at Jalalabad.

In retaliation, the British reinvaded with their large Indian army, relieving the British Jalalabad garrison, and then pushed on to Kabul. Ninety-five prisoners from the earlier massacre were rescued, and the British destroyed the citadel and central bazaar of Kabul. However, as Shah Shuja had been assassinated by this point, the British East India Company decided it was unprofitable to occupy the country and withdrew, only after wiping out virtually all Afghan resistance in Kabul."


57 posted on 03/25/2006 5:46:11 PM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: ontos-on

Is there a great difference? I don't take your point. My point was the Steyn quote, not the bin Ladin quote.


58 posted on 03/25/2006 5:47:10 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Duke Wayne

"What kind of person freely joins a religion that promises death to you if you ever leave it?"

Islam ...the Berlin Wall of religions.


59 posted on 03/25/2006 5:49:03 PM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: gotribe
What was done to the Germans and Japanese was not genocide. It was strategic bombing of enemy cities by legitimate air forces of the US and Great Britain in a declared war against the German Third Reich and the Empire of Japan. If it was genocide, it failed. If it was terror from the sky breaking the will of the hostile populations to continue to resist, it succeeded.

Ridding the Earth of Muslims will be genocide on a scale unmatched by Genghis Khan, Mao Tse-tung, Josef Stalin and Adolf Hitler put together. And you want to advocate that?

60 posted on 03/25/2006 5:49:53 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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