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Steyn: Will we stick our necks out for his faith?
Orange County Register ^ | 25 Mar 06 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 03/25/2006 11:29:03 AM PST by rellimpank

Fate conspires to remind us what this war is really about: civilizational confidence. And so history repeats itself: first the farce of the Danish cartoons, and now the tragedy - a man on trial for his life in post-Taliban Afghanistan because he has committed the crime of converting to Christianity.

The cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad were deeply offensive to Muslims, and so thousands protested around the world in the usual restrained manner - rioting, torching, killing, etc.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afganistan; islam; marksteyn; muslim; religion; steyn
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--next to last paragraph is a great quote--
1 posted on 03/25/2006 11:29:05 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: Pokey78

Steyn ping!


2 posted on 03/25/2006 11:30:57 AM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: rellimpank
The whole episode of this guy being sentenced to death for embracing Christianity simply confirms what I have been saying about Islam all along. Islam and Western Civilization are not at all compatible. I'll say it again. Islam and Western Civilization are not at all compatible!! The particular brand of Islam matters not.
3 posted on 03/25/2006 11:33:47 AM PST by davisfh
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To: rellimpank

No doubt the old British had to actually hang a few of the Indians to make their point to the radicals. The solution in Afghanistan is to face them down on their own soil with meaningful threats of death.


4 posted on 03/25/2006 11:37:12 AM PST by gotribe (Just tired of going easy on islam)
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To: gotribe
--and they did an even better job on the "Thuggee", who were a "religous" sect that strangled people--
5 posted on 03/25/2006 11:41:03 AM PST by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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To: rellimpank

"In a more culturally confident age, the British in India were faced with the practice of "suttee" - the tradition of burning widows on the funeral pyres of their husbands. Gen. Sir Charles Napier was impeccably multicultural:

"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: When men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks, and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."

India today is better off without suttee. If we shrink from the logic of that, then in Afghanistan and many places far closer to home the implications are, as the Prince of Wales would say, "ghastly.""

When England had a spine!


6 posted on 03/25/2006 11:41:58 AM PST by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: rellimpank

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1602713/posts?page=45#45


7 posted on 03/25/2006 11:43:39 AM PST by Chgogal (The US Military fights for Freedom of the Press while the NYT lies about the Military and cowers...)
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To: rellimpank

What kind of person freely joins a religion that promises death to you if you ever leave it?

It simply boggles the mind that so many are so blind to this hate filled promise of nothingness. Cant follow this logic.


8 posted on 03/25/2006 11:44:17 AM PST by Duke Wayne
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To: rellimpank

Brilliant all the way through. I also liked this bit, building on bin Ladin's comment that most people prefer a strong horse to a weak one:

"Most prominent Western leaders sound way too eager to climb into the weak-horse suit and audition to play the rear end."


9 posted on 03/25/2006 11:45:42 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: rellimpank
Look up the word "assassin," sometime.

I was surprised to learn that in its origin, it was associated with islam.

10 posted on 03/25/2006 11:46:45 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: Duke Wayne

It's like the Mafia. People join it because they like the idea of having power. You can't leave the Mafia, either.

Islam is a religion for bullies.


11 posted on 03/25/2006 11:46:51 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: davisfh

"Islam and Western Civilization are not at all compatible!!"

truer words were never spoken here


12 posted on 03/25/2006 11:47:03 AM PST by stand4somethin
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To: Chgogal

It seems to me that the Cleric who calls for the death should be the one to hang. I think that sixes the problem really quickly.


13 posted on 03/25/2006 11:51:28 AM PST by BillM
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To: Chgogal

It seems to me that the Cleric who calls for the death should be the one to hang. I think that sixes the problem really quickly.


14 posted on 03/25/2006 11:51:30 AM PST by BillM
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To: truemiester
"In a more culturally confident age, the British in India were faced with the practice of "suttee" - the tradition of burning widows on the funeral pyres of their husbands. Gen. Sir Charles Napier was impeccably multicultural:

"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: When men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks, and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."

Thanks for quoting the "money paragraph" in Mark's piece. Will we assert our character and beliefs? Will we require freedom of religion in Afghanistan as the price of their freedom from the Taliban?
15 posted on 03/25/2006 11:52:35 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (God is offering you eternal life right now. Freep mail me if you want to know how to receive it.)
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To: Cicero
Islam is a religion for bullies.

Actually, islam, like the mafia, is an organization of psychopaths.

16 posted on 03/25/2006 11:52:36 AM PST by gotribe (Just tired of going easy on islam)
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To: nightdriver

--I know--"thug" originated with "Thuggee" also--


17 posted on 03/25/2006 11:56:09 AM PST by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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To: Alexander Rubin; rellimpank; gotribe

1. I think some of the media is just beginning to realize how barbaric and uncivilized Islam is. Examples: (1) this week, Brit Hume said something to the effect that the Koran does call for tolerance and freedom of religion, doesn't it? (2) On O'Reilly's radio show yesterday, he basically admitted that he did not know until very recently what Islam is like and now he wonders if we should even be over there. (To which his guest, Cal Thomas, said "they're coming after us anyway".)

2. When Bush calls Islam a "religion of peace", I wonder if he knows what it is really like.

3. Instead of dealing with Islam, to quote Andrew C. McCarthy of the National Review Online, with "polite fictions" and "airy ambiguities", we need to recognize them for what they really are and deal with them that way. The British handling of "suttee" in India sounds like a good approach.

4. The media and the politicians need to lose the "political correctness" with regard to Islam and tell us how it really is.


18 posted on 03/25/2006 11:56:24 AM PST by unfortunately a bluestater
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To: unfortunately a bluestater
The media and the politicians need to lose the "political correctness" with regard to Islam and tell us how it really is.

If that ever happens, it'll be World War III, which of course we will win.

19 posted on 03/25/2006 12:00:55 PM PST by gotribe (Just tired of going easy on islam)
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To: davisfh

Maybe so, what do we do then?


20 posted on 03/25/2006 12:14:11 PM PST by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal.)
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