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GOP Would Have Booted Jesus: Hill
New York Post Online ^ | March 23, 2006 | MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 03/23/2006 1:48:05 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton ratcheted up her talk about religion yesterday - saying a GOP-sponsored bill making it a felony to be in the United States illegally would have "criminalized" Jesus.

Clinton, who's considered the Democratic front-runner for the 2008 White House race, made the comments at a hastily scheduled news conference about the House-passed bill aimed at illegal immigrants.

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To: Raycpa

Feed the illegal alien a nice meal aboard the flight back to Tijuana. Deal?


161 posted on 03/23/2006 4:30:20 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Raycpa

OK, how about we take you to the guillotine if you gather wood on the Sabbath.


162 posted on 03/23/2006 4:31:29 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: The Red Zone

Time to go to work so i can have enough money to feed the aliens on the way to my home. Bye for now.


163 posted on 03/23/2006 4:31:37 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa
...and look to other Christians for biblical based input.

Moses was the only lawgiver...

Part IV. Of the Kingdom of Darkness
Chap. xlv. Of Demonology and other Relics of the Religion of the Gentiles.

[10] ...For God being King of the Jews, and His lieutenant being first Moses, and afterward the high priest, if the people had been permitted to worship and pray to images (which are representations of their own fancies), they had had no further dependence on the true God, of whom there can be no similitude; nor on His prime ministers, Moses and the high priests; but every man had governed himself according to his own appetite, to the utter eversion of the Commonwealth, and their own destruction for want of union. And therefore the first law of God was: they should not take for gods, alienos deos, that is, the gods of other nations, but that only true God, who vouchsafed to commune with Moses, and by him to give them laws and directions for their peace, and for their salvation from their enemies.

http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl302/texts/hobbes/leviathan-contents.html

Luke 16:31. “If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.

164 posted on 03/23/2006 4:31:43 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Raycpa

You allege he used an "equivalent" of something which wasn't to happen for 2000 years hence.


165 posted on 03/23/2006 4:32:34 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

If there was any doubt, Hillary just erased it - she truly is the "jaw of an ass".


166 posted on 03/23/2006 4:33:32 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Raycpa
Those are but a few of the stipulations regarding the treatment of strangers in Israel. So, should we allow United States citizens to keep Mexicans as bond-servants too? You can not just universally apply Mosaic law, even if principles of kindness are valid.

For example, if a man is found on my door stoop injured and starving, I do NOT ask to see his green card before I treat him and feed him. And I and my family will earnestly use the opportunity to help the individual spiritually by giving him a clear presentation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. And we don't need to know where he is from or how he got to my door stoop before we exercise that kindness on a personal and individual level. And our children are trained to act the same way.

When I meet illegal aliens in groups crowding isles in Walmart (and I HAVE met some this way, and know that they were actually hiding), NO, I don't start taking cans of green beans and throwing them at the aliens, or cursing them.

But when we are dealing with legislation and law enforcement, I will vote for the candidate who intends to tighten immigration law, seal the borders against ILLEGAL immigration and enforce that law at the borders. It's as simple as that.
167 posted on 03/23/2006 4:34:34 AM PST by Free Baptist
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To: Raycpa

You are taking a horrible burden on yourself, one which Jesus never commanded, if you are committed to that. You would never be equal to the task. Never.

Jesus commended the widow for giving her three mites. He didn't scold the widow for not giving her neighbor's land which wasn't hers to give.


168 posted on 03/23/2006 4:34:47 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Raycpa
So as I said your analogy is a false one. Neither the Samaritan or the man he aided were breaking any of Ceasars laws.

The Samaritan did the injured man a kindness out of his own pocket. He didn't demand that the Roman Government pay for it, nor did he demand that the Roman Government make the injured man a Citizen of Rome.

If you want to aid injured people with your own money, that is your right and your privilege. I'm sure the Lord will smile upon you.

But, don't go tossing around New Testament Scripture as if it somehow bolsters your belief that we should let all these folks cross our borders whenever they feel like it and then pay for whatever services they demand.It doesn't.

L

169 posted on 03/23/2006 4:35:42 AM PST by Lurker (I trust in God. Everyone else shows me their hands.)
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To: Raycpa
Jesus continued many OT teachings. This wasn't one of them. He in fact expanded the alien ones with his Samaritan teachings.

Yeshua explicitly stated he came not to give the law, but to fulfill it...

170 posted on 03/23/2006 4:37:17 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Raycpa

You may be confusing principles of individual and personal kindness with national laws and policies.


171 posted on 03/23/2006 4:37:24 AM PST by Free Baptist
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To: Raycpa

Illegal immigration is an act of theft. There's something about that in the Bible.

The moment an illegal immigrant takes money from our common welfare fund under false pretences he or she has committed a crime: moreover he or she has committed a sin against God and man.

Is it really an act of love to condone this behaviour? Does Christianity really say to illegal immigrants that "Thou Shalt Not Steal, but its ok if its from the Americanos"?


172 posted on 03/23/2006 4:37:50 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Raycpa
Good morning. I appreciate the work you put in on your posts.

Unfortunately, I read all of them and came to a different conclusion than where you seem to be headed.

5.56mm

173 posted on 03/23/2006 4:38:07 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: peyton randolph
By "Jesus," she meant her Mexican gardener.

That is laugh-outloud funny.

174 posted on 03/23/2006 4:38:53 AM PST by Pete
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To: Free Baptist

What's this "may be" schmei drei.


175 posted on 03/23/2006 4:39:16 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton ratcheted up her talk about religion yesterday - saying a GOP-sponsored bill making it a felony to be in the United States illegally would have "criminalized" Jesus.

Clang, Clang, Clang the warning bells are sounding forth, this, this is what the dumb butt Dems want to be their surpreme leader!

"May rhe Saints presarve us"!!

176 posted on 03/23/2006 4:40:58 AM PST by VOYAGER
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To: Raycpa
Jesus Feeds the Four Thousand

Is not the same thing as

"Jesus told the crowds to make themselves at home
permanently
in the local village."

177 posted on 03/23/2006 4:42:22 AM PST by syriacus (Would fewer Americans have died in Iraq if the French and Germans had helped depose Saddam?)
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To: VOYAGER

What's more when Jesus comes back, He will be the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He will have the power to veto the Constitution, fancy that.


178 posted on 03/23/2006 4:42:42 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Raycpa
So, you agree with Hillary, is that it? You think she reads the Bible and prays about this before making statements like 'Republicans would've criminalized Jesus'? Interesting that she rarely brings it up except when it is politically useful. She's an opportunist of the worst kind. The kind to whom Jesus would say "Get thee behind me," because she blasphemes. Ray, you should know that anyone can use quotes from the Christian Bible as a tool for evil. Try visiting EvilBible.com for some examples.

'Reverend' Hillary Jesse Jackson Al Sharpton Rodham Clinton is her style. This is as good as her pandering 'plantation' comment.

179 posted on 03/23/2006 4:43:10 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Raycpa
Leviticus 19: 33 " 'When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him. 34 The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

I hope that does NOT include the alien living inside you.. AAAAARGH IT HURTS
180 posted on 03/23/2006 4:44:17 AM PST by S0122017
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