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Fears grow over new Dubai revolt
Financial Times ^ | March 21 2006 20:58 | Stephanie Kirchgaessner in Washington and James Boxell in London

Posted on 03/21/2006 6:16:56 PM PST by mr_hammer

Arab and US officials are growing nervous at the prospect of a second congressional uprising against the acquisition of American assets by a Middle Eastern-controlled company in the wake of the Dubai Ports World debacle.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abudhabi; americanassets; arab; bcci; biggovtlovers; bushbots; commies; debacle; dncpropogandists; dubai; freetraitors; gutlesscongress; hystericconsequences; kleagles; menholdinghands; nowaytotreatallies; ports; sellingtherope; sellouts; socialist; uae; unionstoodges; yesmen
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To: oceanview
That is what is amazing.

Somehow, I have got to shift my thinking around to consider that you know more about than CFIUS.

The reality is that you are just another annonymous poster who is eaten up with bad case of dumbass.

61 posted on 03/21/2006 7:21:07 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Cboldt

well, Kirk Kerkorian did. And Daimler bought Chrysler.


62 posted on 03/21/2006 7:22:28 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham; sinkspur
Still, let me be just a little bit more provocative ~ and target one of our weaker Freepers ~ and I guarantee I can elicit some pretty raw racism.

You have noticed, of course, I'm pulling my punches to avoid letting them embarrass themselves.

63 posted on 03/21/2006 7:22:29 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: sinkspur
I'm attempting to show lurkers that some of us on here aren't Arab-hating luddites.

Sorry, I forgot to add the phrase "perpetual kiss-ass" to my previous list of descriptive terms.

Carry on.

64 posted on 03/21/2006 7:23:06 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Ben Ficklin

right, all the CFIUS career beauracrat members are in Mensa - but I am an idiot for asking some basic questions.


65 posted on 03/21/2006 7:26:06 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
Here's a thought for you to work on ~ German and French investors own serious stakes in our defense industries.

Given our experience with Germany over the last 100 years (our REPEATED experience), don't you think that's a tad risky?

66 posted on 03/21/2006 7:26:09 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: thoughtomator
What about Russia? Mexico? Venzuela?

Your list of no-ownems is very vague. What is core telecommunications? Dish Network?

The Chicoms already own what UAE can't own.

67 posted on 03/21/2006 7:27:10 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: muawiyah; norton
But you buy off on Chi-com investments without blinking an eye, right?

take the blinders off...

I am just commenting on how Americans feel about Arabs right now. I know people from the Emirates. They are by far the most Western/moderate of all Muslims in the world, and remarkable businessmen. I agree it is unfair how China gets a total pass, even though they are clearly a future rival/enemy who is undermining us in Latin America even as we speak. But Americans are still angry at the Arabs for 9/11. And my point is that the administration does not seem to "get" this at all, which I find remarkable.

68 posted on 03/21/2006 7:29:44 PM PST by montag813
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To: oceanview
I'm curious. Had you ever heard of this deal before you read this short article?

Will the threat be because the UAE would own this facilty in the US or because they would own a facility in Sheffield?

69 posted on 03/21/2006 7:30:32 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Ad-hominems of the type you have resorted to are the refuge of a loser.


70 posted on 03/21/2006 7:32:22 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur; muawiyah
"They may carve out the subsidiary that makes stuff for us and sell it to some lily-white firm in order to satisfy the xenophobes."

Your hysterics both undermine your position, and belie your motivations. Project much?

Also; the straw-man argument in reference to the Chi-Coms doesn't hold water. Most here are equally opposed to their involvement in strategic infrastructure, security enterprises, and defense technology. Try a new tack. You're headed for the rocks again.

71 posted on 03/21/2006 7:34:12 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: montag813
But Americans are still angry at the Arabs for 9/11. And my point is that the administration does not seem to "get" this at all, which I find remarkable.

No, the administration "gets it" more than you know.

They just don't blame all Arabs for 9/11 as the ignoramuses do.

72 posted on 03/21/2006 7:34:33 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: bybybill
There is a huge asset that the Arabs own...oil

But should they "own" it? Can they be trusted with its stewardship? Can Nigeria? I am not so sure. Until 1918, the Turks ruled all of Arabia. We and the British gave them all independence and control over the oil, which we also developed for them. If the Western powers determine the Arabs (and others) can no longer be trusted to own the oil under their lands, we may well be justified in taking that ownership away from them, and putting it in trust of a "quartet" of U.S., E.U., China and Russia, to release to the open market safely and without interference.

73 posted on 03/21/2006 7:34:34 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813
The administration "gets it"
the administration tried for an hour or so to make just that point.

The administration lacks the cajones to get the point across...
same argument as I would apply to 'our' border with mexico.
(Except that the administration 'gets it' but refuses to act on it...)

74 posted on 03/21/2006 7:35:30 PM PST by norton
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To: muawiyah
I just think that there needs to be some limitations to global integration.

Three decades ago the EEC-the predecessor to the current EU-and the majority of continental Europe-decided that it was in the best interests of their countrymen to acquiesce to Arab-Muslim demands, diplomatically, politically, and economically.

They believed that integrating with the Arab-Muslim Middle East in every conceivable way-and distancing themselves from the United States and Israel by being as hostile to us as they were receptive to the Arab Middle East-was in their best interests.

Not the best interests of Europeans mind you, but in the best interests of the Euro elites that have gradually, but inexorably, supplanted democratic, republican rule.

I happen to think that this was a colossal blunder-surrendering the soul of Judeo-Christian Europe for the allegorical mess of pottage-but that was their decision.

My point is that the United States-which has already emulated Europe's disastrous example to a disturbing degree-should not continue down this primrose path.

A stable oil supply is not worth selling our sovereignty.

A prosperous economy is worthless if it is controlled by people whose values are inimical to our own.

Peace at all costs is not a good strategy to follow, IMHO.

75 posted on 03/21/2006 7:36:28 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Ben Ficklin

yes, this story has some up before - during the ports deal, this was on the CFIUS list too.

again, if CFIUS was doing its job - what it would be doing here is asking DoD if this company was a sole source supplier for critical components, what those components were, where they came from, whether they could be replaced by an alternative. just for starters.

the US is going to have problems in this area shortly (generally), with respect to semiconductors. so much of it is moving to china, that at some point, DoD is going to have to maintain portions of it as a "cottage industry" in the US - unless we all feel comfortable that without chinese parts, we can't build planes or missiles or laser guided munitions.


76 posted on 03/21/2006 7:36:43 PM PST by oceanview
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To: sinkspur
*guffaw*

You're one to talk.

77 posted on 03/21/2006 7:37:13 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: norton
PS:
This is one of those occasions for which I would absolutely maintain that 'the people' do not have any business making policy. 'The people' seem only to understand (sic) what certain of their elite have orated for their consumption.
78 posted on 03/21/2006 7:37:49 PM PST by norton
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To: oceanview
there are plenty of US assets for the UAE to buy that does not involve critical infrastructure or defense related companies

Yes, but they don't want those.
79 posted on 03/21/2006 7:37:57 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: CowboyJay
the straw-man argument in reference to the Chi-Coms doesn't hold water. Most here are equally opposed to their involvement in strategic infrastructure, security enterprises, and defense technology.

I'm busting a gut over that one!

Most of the huff-and-puffers on this site weren't even aware of COSCO's role in 14 ports on the West Coast, or that it had been in that role for nearly ten years!

You guys hide behind every transparently phony excuse you can think of.

One of your fellow travelers gave the game away in a post up thread.

80 posted on 03/21/2006 7:38:22 PM PST by sinkspur
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