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Fears grow over new Dubai revolt
Financial Times ^ | March 21 2006 20:58 | Stephanie Kirchgaessner in Washington and James Boxell in London

Posted on 03/21/2006 6:16:56 PM PST by mr_hammer

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To: Stellar Dendrite

no, I didn't. sorry.


41 posted on 03/21/2006 7:09:32 PM PST by oceanview
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To: muawiyah
I don't want either the Muslims (not Arabs... I have no problem at all with non-Muslim Arabs) nor the Chicoms to have any measure of control at all regarding our strategic interests. This seems to me to be so obvious that it defies common sense that this isn't the starting point of homeland security.
42 posted on 03/21/2006 7:10:19 PM PST by thoughtomator (Symmetry Inspector #7)
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To: bybybill; sinkspur
And why should they have so much leverage over us?

Do any of you that keep bringing up the debt being accumulated by this country-45% owned by foreign investors-our depreciating dollar, or our lack of energy independence-which grows worse with each year that elapses-ever stop to think about what policies caused us to reach this crux?

43 posted on 03/21/2006 7:10:27 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: oceanview

we are on the same side


44 posted on 03/21/2006 7:10:52 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funds HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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To: oceanview
they can't diversify into any other US industries? nothing else is for sale in this country, except infrastructure and defense subcontractors? they have to be IN THOSE TWO specifically, and we are just supposed to accept it and not ask any questions?

Ask all the questions you want.

But, after that ridiculous ports debacle, it will be apparent to the Arabs that the United States wants friendly Middle Eastern countries for what they can do for the United States.

But, when it comes to a friendly ME country wanting a quid-pro-quo, no darkies need apply.

45 posted on 03/21/2006 7:11:44 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
"The UAE is not entitled to large swaths of our economy"

You need to come up with a list of who can, and cannot, buy what.

46 posted on 03/21/2006 7:13:40 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: sinkspur

Correction: it's no "Muslims" need apply. And with good reason!


47 posted on 03/21/2006 7:13:45 PM PST by thoughtomator (Symmetry Inspector #7)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
Do any of you that keep bringing up the debt being accumulated by this country-45% owned by foreign investors-our depreciating dollar, or our lack of energy independence-which grows worse with each year that elapses-ever stop to think about what policies caused us to reach this crux?

It's our own damned fault. I'm sure you'll find a way to blame the Arabs, though.

48 posted on 03/21/2006 7:13:48 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Cboldt

plenty of US auto companies looking for investments. hey, the market for small private jets is BOOMING in the US - maybe the UAE could buy something there. lots of tech companies looking for new investors too. let the UAE buy TIVO, I could care less. they could also take minority stakes in a whole host of public companies. I could go on and on.

when lined up side by side, the list of things they COULD BUY without question is far longer then the list of things that will raise eyebrows. yet, they keeping coming at us on the short list.


49 posted on 03/21/2006 7:13:56 PM PST by oceanview
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To: sinkspur
Oh, will you just shut the hell up?

You are one of the most obnoxious, irritating posters on this website, and your ham-handed, futile attempts at interpolating race into this conversation aren't going to make me reevaluate my initial opinion of you.

50 posted on 03/21/2006 7:14:47 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: thoughtomator
Correction: it's no "Muslims" need apply. And with good reason!

Your argument disqualifies you from serious discussion about this issue.

51 posted on 03/21/2006 7:15:26 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur

they can buy plenty of other things.

they own the essex house in manhattan, I walk past it every week, they even changed the sign out front to include some arabic name - you don't see me and my "xenophobe" friends out in front protesting it, do you?


52 posted on 03/21/2006 7:15:35 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Ben Ficklin

that's what CFIUS is supposed to do. instead, it has essentially functioned as a rubber stamp - so what the hell good is it.


53 posted on 03/21/2006 7:16:24 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Ben Ficklin

Here's the lists:

Who:
-Muslims
-Chicoms

What:
-anything that presents a significant opportunity for a member of the who to do serious damage to the USA, e.g. power generation, core telecommunications, major transportation, military applications, etc.


54 posted on 03/21/2006 7:17:01 PM PST by thoughtomator (Symmetry Inspector #7)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
I really don't care what you think.

I'm attempting to show lurkers that some of us on here aren't Arab-hating luddites.

55 posted on 03/21/2006 7:17:32 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: oceanview
How do you know he isn't?

^__^

56 posted on 03/21/2006 7:18:04 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: montag813
Take of the blinders and ask who has helped us (despite setbacks and internal 'issues') and who has NOT helped us (despite pulling their collective ass out of two world wars, despite pulling their collective ass out of a cold war they'd have lost without a shot being fired, and/or despite having propped up their absurdly left leaning economies for decades......)

Like them or not, Dubai is in the same vise as we are in!

If they 'own' rights in the USA so what? Those rights can be pulled just as easily as your rights to private property were recently pulled.

If some of the 9/11 creeps were funded by money laundered in Dubai, so what? Are we going to cut off most of the Caribbean?

57 posted on 03/21/2006 7:18:52 PM PST by norton
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

sinkspur just has a different opinion on this, that's all. there are hundreds of deals that could/should sail through CFIUS, but some should not.


58 posted on 03/21/2006 7:19:53 PM PST by oceanview
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To: sinkspur

Ah I see. You want to pretend that the most sensible solution is not an option, by your unilateral fiat.

Tough. "No Muslims need apply" is perfectly correct and appropriate, and frankly it's a lot kinder than how Muslims - by doctrine - treat those who are not!

If a Muslim had power over you, your life would be brief and your possessions his, your wife and children his slaves. You're a fool to give any Muslim an inch of opportunity to place himself in that position.


59 posted on 03/21/2006 7:20:18 PM PST by thoughtomator (Symmetry Inspector #7)
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To: oceanview
plenty of US auto companies looking for investments.

Would you invest in GM or Delphi? LOL. I figure Doncasters has a better margin than many other concerns, in part due to know-how that it has developed over time. If the US relied on it, it was relying on foreign (albeit British) know-how all along.

they could also take minority stakes in a whole host of public companies.

Or private companies, for that matter, eh?

the list of things they COULD BUY without question is far longer then the list of things that will raise eyebrows. yet, they keeping coming at us on the short list.

Maybe they ARE buying more than what we see - maybe the extent of what gets atention -is- the "short list." CFIUS doesn't look at -all- acquisitions, only -some- of them.

Anyway, not trying to knock your concern, just trying to get an accurate handle on what's at stake at what the practical options are.

Figured I'd share the start of that.

60 posted on 03/21/2006 7:20:55 PM PST by Cboldt
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