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Judge: No Deal For Teacher Who Slept With Her Student
The Indy Channel ^ | March 21, 2006 | AP

Posted on 03/21/2006 11:29:17 AM PST by Abathar

OCALA, Fla. -- A Florida judge said a plea deal for a Tampa teacher accused of having sex with a 14-year-old would "erode public confidence in" schools.

Marion County Circuit Judge Hale Stencil has rejected the plea deal for Debra Lafave, 25. The judge said the deal would undermine the credibility of the criminal justice system.

Prosecutors and the defense lawyer had urged the judge to accept the deal for the good of the boy. A psychiatrist told the judge the boy suffered extreme anxiety because of intense media coverage of the case and does not want to testify.

Lafave was charged in two counties where she's accused of having sex with the student.

A judge in Hillsborough County accepted a plea deal there in November and sentenced Lafave to three years of house arrest and seven years' probation. She pleaded guilty in November to two counts of lewd and lascivious battery for having sex with the boy in a classroom and her home.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
I want to see her on Surreal Life.

This woman can have her 15 minutes of fame and cash it, if she's not too embarrased to be seen in public!

201 posted on 03/21/2006 12:44:21 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Diamond
The only way he will not feel some remorse and shame over what he did, even if he is not as culpable as her, is if he has no conscience.

If that is the standard, then the vast majority of men have no concience, which may in fact be the case.

202 posted on 03/21/2006 12:44:35 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Shalom Israel

Please explain that.


203 posted on 03/21/2006 12:44:58 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: Dominic Harr

Then you haven't dealt with boys who've been screwed by women they trusted...
Mom's best friend,
the next door neighbor,
their Troop mother etc.

I've yet to meet one of these boys or men who don't have some degree of twerked attitudes towards sex and females.

And you may think your daughter is level headed, but if she sees her brother having more fun, she'll have her day too.


204 posted on 03/21/2006 12:45:00 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: Rodney King

LOL!

That's the problem! You're brilliant.


205 posted on 03/21/2006 12:45:49 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: Dominic Harr
I guarantee you this boy does not feel 'victimized'.

Tell that to his girlfriends from now until whenever.

206 posted on 03/21/2006 12:45:51 PM PST by r9etb
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To: MeanWestTexan
This woman robbed this boy of that clear mind.

But you are referring to *any* pre-marital sex. Her age has nothing to do with that.

The fact that she was 24 and he was 14 -- does that make him a 'victim' in your book?

207 posted on 03/21/2006 12:45:53 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: monday
I am guessing you are a woman since the way guys think seems so foreign to you.

They really don't. One time, about three years ago, there was a freeper here who asserted that her 17 year old son had never masturbated. How did she know? Because she asked him and he said he didn't. LOL. Anyway, she went nuts when everyone on the thread assured her that he probably has a couple of hundred times already.

208 posted on 03/21/2006 12:46:19 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: wagglebee
I was a 14 year old boy once and I will not pretend for a second that if a teacher who looked like this offered to have sex with me that I wouldn't have been tempted. In fact, I think there is a very good chance that I would have done it.

When I was 15 and working at a restaurant I was accosted by an attractive married mother who was friends with one of my female coworkers. She looked a lot like Annabella Sciorra and was just my type physically. All I could think about was her kids and how devastated I would be if my mom had ever done something like that.

It wasn't that tough a call for me and I'm certain that I am much better off psychologically for never having that on my conscience.

209 posted on 03/21/2006 12:46:26 PM PST by wideawake
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To: YankeeGirl

The question is: Would you be more upset if you had a 14-year old girl molested by a male teacher than if your 14 year old boy had sex with a female teacher. I bet you would.


210 posted on 03/21/2006 12:46:28 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

No, actually, I believe it has an effect on self esteem, and not a good effect. This boy is now prone to unhealthy relationships with women.


211 posted on 03/21/2006 12:46:38 PM PST by gogeo
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To: r9etb

Exactly...

I pity his future wife.....
and his daughters too.


212 posted on 03/21/2006 12:46:52 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: Rodney King

Trueisms are a funny thing.

The one about a St__f Pr__k having no conscience comes to mind.


213 posted on 03/21/2006 12:47:56 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: dinoparty

why do you call it "molestation" of the 14 year old daughter? What if she thought she was in LUUUUUVVVV with him? does that make it more equal? consensual and all?


214 posted on 03/21/2006 12:48:09 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Yes,but our LEGAL SYSTEM does not-or SHOULD not-distinguish between men and women when a crime is commited.
Should a woman get a lesser sentence for robbing a bank than a male robber?
Or maybe an Asian woman should get a lesser sentence for prostitution than a Latina one?


215 posted on 03/21/2006 12:48:11 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: dinoparty

I believe the comment was that the boy committed two sins (adultery and sex outside marriage) without knowledge that he committed such sins.

From a theological perspective, the most likely belief is that he would be punished, whether he knows he commited sin or not.

Hence, he is a "victim."

Or if you want to be New Agey about it --- he'll get the bad karma of sleeping with another man's wife.


216 posted on 03/21/2006 12:48:19 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: frogjerk
And I referring to your comment that your first hand knowledge of being a "man" that this kid will revel in memory for the rest of his life.

I see what you mean. I don't share your life-view, but I respect them.

And still -- you're referring to *any* pre-marital sex, even if the girl was his age.

I'm referring to the fact here that her being older than him won't make him regret it. He is not a 'victim' of an older woman. Yes, he is a 'victim' of sexuality . . . but that's not the story here, I think.

217 posted on 03/21/2006 12:48:50 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: monday
If she is a normal human being I wouldn't think she would be offended by it. People aren't perfect. Most people realize that.

I wasn't so much referring to his prospective bride's reaction to his moral failure as much as his state of mind in disclosing same to her. Is it something he would be proud to disclose to her, or is it something he would be ashamed of?

Cordially,

218 posted on 03/21/2006 12:48:57 PM PST by Diamond (I am a man.)
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To: Abathar

I was a lifeguard at 15, and at one time I had a semi-secret affair with a 19 yo woman, for the summer.

At 17, I had a gf who was 15, and for a time I was 18 when she was 15.

I have absolutely nothing but fond memories of those years. And the old gf remembers it very fondly, too. No harm, no foul. And certainly no regrets.

:)


219 posted on 03/21/2006 12:49:21 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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To: Shalom Israel
"I disagree: he's very much a victim. However, the 14-year-old boy would probably go to his grave never realizing what a victim he was..."

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Thats the funniest thing I have read all week! Thanks!!
220 posted on 03/21/2006 12:49:22 PM PST by monday
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