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Judge: No Deal For Teacher Who Slept With Her Student
The Indy Channel ^ | March 21, 2006 | AP

Posted on 03/21/2006 11:29:17 AM PST by Abathar

OCALA, Fla. -- A Florida judge said a plea deal for a Tampa teacher accused of having sex with a 14-year-old would "erode public confidence in" schools.

Marion County Circuit Judge Hale Stencil has rejected the plea deal for Debra Lafave, 25. The judge said the deal would undermine the credibility of the criminal justice system.

Prosecutors and the defense lawyer had urged the judge to accept the deal for the good of the boy. A psychiatrist told the judge the boy suffered extreme anxiety because of intense media coverage of the case and does not want to testify.

Lafave was charged in two counties where she's accused of having sex with the student.

A judge in Hillsborough County accepted a plea deal there in November and sentenced Lafave to three years of house arrest and seven years' probation. She pleaded guilty in November to two counts of lewd and lascivious battery for having sex with the boy in a classroom and her home.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: Dominic Harr

Well,
as a woman,

I find it very ironic that men seem to know so much more about us they we do. Then get all upset that we women don't like sex as much as they do...that we get all emotional and weird and why can't we be like that wonderful teacher etc etc...

Why can't we be like Jenna!
No wait...
We're supposed to be nuns...
No we're supposed to be....

SCHOOL TEACHERS!

One day
YOUR daughter may be someone's school teacher...
She's learning more than you realize.

Believe me.


181 posted on 03/21/2006 12:38:12 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: gogeo
He is victimized.

Ok.

I don't see it, but ok.

182 posted on 03/21/2006 12:38:50 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: dinoparty
but let's be honest: a 14-year old boy seduced by an older woman is much less a victim than a 14-year old boy or girl seduced by a man. Its just reality.

Maybe in your universe. I have a 14 year old son. If one of his teachers or a friends' mom had sex with him I'd be pressing charges too. I don't consider myself to be a prude in matters of sex.

It the fact that one's a kid and one's an adult. That's disgusting and illegal whether its hetero or homo.

183 posted on 03/21/2006 12:39:17 PM PST by YankeeGirl
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To: MeanWestTexan
As a mature male, however, I have gotten religious training, and recognize premarital sex is a sin, and I do regret what I did.

Amen.

I may be the exception in regretting that.

Believe me, you are not alone.

184 posted on 03/21/2006 12:39:21 PM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: monday
Apples and oranges. 14 year old boys can't get pregnant. 14 year old girls can.

14 year old boys can get someone pregnant though, and ruin their lives just the same. The pregnancy issue aside, which isn't really relevant anyways, the emotional scarring that can occur by someone so young being put in that position can be harmful to normal emotional and psychological development.

Not saying it happens in every case, but some don't deal with it well.

185 posted on 03/21/2006 12:39:38 PM PST by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: najida
Why can't we be like Jenna! No wait... We're supposed to be nuns... No we're supposed to be....

Haven't you heard? You are supposed to be like nuns in public, but whores in the bedroom.

186 posted on 03/21/2006 12:39:52 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Dominic Harr

I want to see her on Surreal Life.



;-P


187 posted on 03/21/2006 12:39:52 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: brownsfan

I just was this.

CNN Breaking News Lafave Charges Dropped

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1600485/posts


188 posted on 03/21/2006 12:39:52 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Don't mess with Texas.)
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To: Diamond
"For example, is this something he would unhesitatingly disclose to a prospective bride? Is this something he will remember at his wedding day, assuming he gets married?"

If she is a normal human being I wouldn't think she would be offended by it. People aren't perfect. Most people realize that.

As for remembering it on his wedding day, what a strange question. It might be a pleasant memory, but I would think he would be too busy to spend any time thinking about it on his wedding day. In fact I doubt he spends hardly any time at all thinking about it once the publicity dies down.

I am guessing you are a woman since the way guys think seems so foreign to you.
189 posted on 03/21/2006 12:40:34 PM PST by monday
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To: monday

"Not all conservatives lack a sense of humor."

Agreed. In fact, I'd say not all conservatives are knuckle dragging morons either.


190 posted on 03/21/2006 12:40:34 PM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Dominic Harr

An adult shouldn't have to regrets sins he committed when 14.

This woman robbed this boy of that clear mind.


191 posted on 03/21/2006 12:40:38 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: brownsfan

was = saw

Spellcheck won't catch that.


192 posted on 03/21/2006 12:40:41 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Don't mess with Texas.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
I want to see her on Surreal Life.

Maybe she can hook up with that hot drunken slut from Louisiana, Trichelle, from the real world and its various iterations.

193 posted on 03/21/2006 12:41:06 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: monday
It is true, girls mature more quickly than boys, but no one is ready for a serious relationship at 14 or 15 and boys are less likely to fall into a serious relationship or have their emotions hurt.

Really...tell it to Vili Fualaau...

194 posted on 03/21/2006 12:41:06 PM PST by gogeo
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To: najida
YOUR daughter may be someone's school teacher... She's learning more than you realize.

Knock on wood, my daughter so far is more mature and level-headed than I am (no shock there, I'm sure)!

Don't get me wrong -- the teacher was a skank. Cheating on her hubby and all that, that is not acceptable. That's not what I'm saying.

I'm just pointing out that calling these boys "victims" is not, to me, even close to the truth of the situation.

195 posted on 03/21/2006 12:41:56 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Rodney King

Ah!

I didn't get the memo.

Sorry,
It gets confusing.
14 year old girl--- NO SEX!

14 year old boy--- LOTS OF SEX!

Oh well,
If I were 14 again,
I'd be planning on the day I had my first class of highschool freshmen ;)


196 posted on 03/21/2006 12:42:19 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: anton

"She had a sense of humor in that they did it in the back of the car while his friend was driving. That's hot!"

lol... Who are you? Paris Hilton?


197 posted on 03/21/2006 12:42:20 PM PST by monday
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To: Dominic Harr
A guy who is loved and left by a sexy girl pretty much *never* regrets the experience...I guarantee you this boy does not feel 'victimized'.

You have no way of knowing what the state of mind of this boy is, and therefore you cannot guarantee whether or not he now feels or will at some time in the future have feelings of regret, shame and remorse.

Only one contrary example need suffice to prove that lack of remorse is a universal given. One of my nephews at a relatively young age fornicated with an older married woman who was a youth group leader at the church, and fathered a child by her. He became so guilt ridden and remorseful that he was at the point of suicide for a time. This woman and her husband went off to another state, with no discipline at all from the feckless church, and will probably continue the same pattern. My nephew knows he is the father of a child whom he may never see again.

The 14 year-old in the news committed fornication with a married woman, which is a moral wrong, and I would guess that he is probably old enough to know that what he was doing was wrong, morally, if not legally. He was victimized by being enticed by an older woman to commit a moral offence who herself was comitting a criminal as well as a moral offense. The only way he will not feel some remorse and shame over what he did, even if he is not as culpable as her, is if he has no conscience.

Cordially,

198 posted on 03/21/2006 12:42:38 PM PST by Diamond
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To: Abathar

She looks about 16 years of age in that picture..........


199 posted on 03/21/2006 12:44:00 PM PST by Osage Orange (Why does John McCain always smile like a mule eating cockleburrs?)
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To: Dominic Harr
I'm referring to the fact that she was older, and his teacher.

And I referring to your comment that your first hand knowledge of being a "man" that this kid will revel in memory for the rest of his life.

200 posted on 03/21/2006 12:44:06 PM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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