Posted on 03/15/2006 10:25:20 PM PST by jmc1969
In the aftermath of the Dubai ports deal, President Bush's approval rating has hit a new low and his image for honesty and effectiveness has been damaged. Yet the public uncharacteristically has good things to say about the role that Congress played in this high-profile controversy.
Most Americans (58%) believe Congress acted appropriately in strenuously opposing the deal, while just 24% say lawmakers made too much of the situation.
The new Pew survey underscores the public's alarm over the prospect that an Arab-owned company could have operated U.S. ports. There was broad opposition to the proposed deal from across the political spectrum, including two-to-one disapproval among conservative Republicans (56%-27%).
Bush's overall approval measure stands at 33%, the lowest rating of his presidency.
The president's ratings for handling of several specific issues, particularly terrorism, have also declined sharply. Just 42% now approve of Bush's job in handling terrorist threats, an 11-point drop since February. In January 2005, as Bush was starting his second term, 62% approved of his handling of terrorist threats.
Bush's personal image also has weakened noticeably, which is reflected in people's one-word descriptions of the president. Honesty had been the single trait most closely associated with Bush, but in the current survey "incompetent" is the descriptor used most frequently.
Congress has drawn bipartisan praise from the American public for its response to the possible transfer of U.S. port operations to a United Arab Emirates company. Nearly two-thirds of Democrats (68%), and roughly half each of independents (53%) and Republicans (49%) said Congress acted appropriately, though a third of Republicans felt too much was made of the issue.
(Excerpt) Read more at people-press.org ...
Here's a link from 2 years ago that shows 33% Democrat, 29% Republican.
What are the remaining 38%?
Independents!
http://people-press.org/commentary/display.php3?AnalysisID=95
North Carolina registered voters are 47% Democrat, 34% Republican, and 19% Independent. Hopefully that shows you how meaningless your objections are....
What the hell is the staff for? Perhaps the problem is Andy Card. Perhaps this goes all the way back to the lousy and rushed transition from when Gore attempted to steal the election in 2000. Perhaps it comes from Bush trusting people too much and believing in their "good intentions," leaving too many Clintonistas in place to screw him at every opportunity.
The senior staff is the responsibility of the president. Each senior staffer needs to take care of their own reports and not expect the president to.
Like I said - people are not paying attention to the poll takers and the samples they use and how they use them - AND THEY DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE - AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT IT'S AN ELECTORAL POLL.
The goal is to prove to everybody that Bush is a total failure!! That's the goal!! The media will do anything - ANYTHING - to try to make the public believe it!
Let's not be stupid and believe the lie!!
I understand you believe that. You don't like the numbers, so they MUST be a lie.
I don't find that line of thought to be realistic. ALL the polls show a precipitous drop in the President's approval, and why shouldn't they? He's had some big SNAFUs lately.
I just think it's childish to pretend it's all a big lie concocted by EVERY poll out there. Did you believe it was all a lie when he was polling in the high 80s?
Why are you so sure the remaining 38% HAVE TO BE IND - they don't have to be anything.
We're talking about people who are registed to vote here - not some flake who is too lazy to get out of bed and vote. Being a NON-VOTER does not make you an IND. How do you know that 38% are not all UNREGISTERED ..?? And .. if that's true - your analysis is all wet!!
What a ridiculous example.
You're saying one state proves I'm wrong .. ROTFLOL!!!
Yeah, I like what you said -- go thte way of the Whigs, over spendin' GOPers.
But, where is our new Lincoln to lead our new party?
Democrats Gain Edge in Party Identification
Party Affiliation and Political Philosophy Show Little Change, According to National Harris Poll
TABLE 1
PARTY AFFILIATION
"Regardless of how you may vote, what do you usually consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat, an Independent, or some other party?"
Base: All adults
Year* |
President |
Republican |
Democrat |
Independent |
Democratic Lead |
% |
% |
% |
% |
||
2004 |
Bush, G.W. |
31 |
34 |
24 |
3 |
2003 |
Bush, G.W. |
28 |
33 |
24 |
5 |
2002 |
Bush, G.W. |
31 |
34 |
24 |
3 |
2001 |
Bush, G.W. |
31 |
36 |
22 |
5 |
2000 |
Clinton |
29 |
37 |
23 |
8 |
1999 |
Clinton |
29 |
36 |
26 |
7 |
1998 |
Clinton |
28 |
37 |
27 |
9 |
1997 |
Clinton |
29 |
37 |
26 |
8 |
1996 |
Clinton |
30 |
38 |
26 |
8 |
1995 |
Clinton |
31 |
36 |
28 |
5 |
1994 |
Clinton |
32 |
37 |
26 |
5 |
1993 |
Clinton |
29 |
38 |
27 |
9 |
1992 |
Bush, G.H.W. |
30 |
36 |
29 |
6 |
1991 |
Bush, G.H.W. |
32 |
37 |
26 |
5 |
1990 |
Bush, G.H.W. |
33 |
38 |
25 |
5 |
1989 |
Bush, G.H.W. |
33 |
40 |
23 |
7 |
1988 |
Reagan |
31 |
39 |
25 |
8 |
1987 |
Reagan |
29 |
38 |
28 |
9 |
1986 |
Reagan |
30 |
39 |
25 |
9 |
1985 |
Reagan |
30 |
39 |
26 |
9 |
1984 |
Reagan |
27 |
40 |
24 |
13 |
1983 |
Reagan |
26 |
41 |
27 |
15 |
1982 |
Reagan |
26 |
40 |
28 |
14 |
1981 |
Reagan |
28 |
39 |
28 |
11 |
1980 |
Carter |
24 |
41 |
29 |
17 |
1979 |
Carter |
22 |
41 |
31 |
19 |
1978 |
Carter |
22 |
43 |
30 |
21 |
1977 |
Carter |
21 |
48 |
25 |
27 |
1976 |
Ford |
24 |
47 |
24 |
23 |
1975 |
Nixon/Ford |
21 |
46 |
27 |
25 |
1974 |
Nixon |
23 |
45 |
32 |
22 |
1973 |
Nixon |
26 |
48 |
26 |
22 |
1972 |
Nixon |
30 |
47 |
23 |
17 |
1971 |
Nixon |
31 |
49 |
20 |
18 |
1970 |
Nixon |
31 |
49 |
20 |
18 |
1969 |
Nixon |
32 |
49 |
19 |
17 |
The conventional wisdom on FR is that all of those polls are wrong, and that he is in fact much more popular across the fruited plane.
FR conventional wisdom has no street cred these days.
The sampling method used for polling is valid. It is completely invalid to adjust the numbers after the fact. The question about party affiliation is telling and troubling for those who hold to a conservative agenda.
The fact of the matter is that as poll numbers drop, the number of people who say they are Republican is dropping. This doesnt mean that the number of registered Republicans is dropping. Nor is it a reflection of adherence to a conservative agenda. Party affiliation responses have a mushy component to them and it swings both ways for both parties. The question is always asked at the end of the survey and that is alarming.
This is not a poll of the agenda of the American mindset. This is a poll of the measure of success of the president and his execution of the agenda. Bush is dragging the conservative agenda down. The public perception that things are not going well in Iraq is probably the primary factor in peoples minds. Whether it is going well or is not is immaterial. It doesnt look good. The president might have better support if he was capable of communicating better about the war. But his speeches are not effective.
Part of what makes him seem ineffective on the war is the general lackluster perception from other issues: Harriet Meirs, his preemptive veto threat on Dubai, his prescription benefits sessions that look like 3AM infomercials, his standoffish attitude towards congress, etc. etc. etc.
The polls are really very accurate reflections of the public view; not of the conservative agenda but of the man charged to lead the country. Even if the polls are wrong (and they are not) he is hurting the conservative agenda.
Conservatives need to ask themselves what is more important, the agenda or Bush? That is why congress is distancing itself from the president. That is why people are suggesting staff changes. That is why more people are telling pollsters they are Democrats. This last point is the most alarming thing about the poll numbers.
ok... 1% are Greens and 1% are Libertarian.
You seem to think it means registering for the Independent Party. It's not... it's just not being aligned with a party. All evidence shows 30-some percent of Americans so identify themselves.
It's the independents that he really takes the hit on.
You are certainly entitled to your perception of the President, and it appears that you are comforted by the fact that there are others who feel the same way you do.
However, that doesn't necessarily make you right.
Freepers have been in utter denial about the polls for months. They simply will not accept that more people are self identifying as Democrats and Independents at the expense of the GOP. You are completely right, but many Freepers don't have the clarity or maturity to recognize this.
Bush doesn't have the political clout or credibility to bomb anyone now.
No I didn't think the 80% was a lie .. but I knew it wouldn't last .. because people were just reacting to 9/11 - not the President's JA in general.
And .. your assumption that I don't like the numbers and that's why I think it's a lie .. the numbers say it's a lie - that's what I'm trying to tell you. I cannot believe you can look at this chart and not see some number crunching going on - consistantly by the same groups .. really ..?? You can't see that ..?? Or you won't admit that you see that ..?? Then it's okay for me to say - YOU LIKE THE LOW NUMBERS FOR BUSH - so you don't care to see they are phoney.
34% (CBSNews -- Democrats +13)
37% (AP/Ipsos -- Democrats +12)
39% (FoxNews/OD -- Democrats +10)
41% (ABCNews/WP -- Democrats +8)
46% (Battleground -- Democrats even)
AMAZING THE DIFFERENCE A SAMPLE MAKES!!!!
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