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1 posted on 03/12/2006 11:16:59 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
''I think you have to say it is a cry of desperation," says Robin Lakoff, a professor of linguistics at Berkeley. ''Here is guy who has seen his male privilege vanish as society became more equal. He wants to turn the clock back."

Facing down the bad guys is hardly what I would categorize as "male privilege" but then an expert on "framing" such as Lakoff would know all about deliberate mischaracterization in order to cling to an outmoded feminist paradigm.

2 posted on 03/12/2006 11:28:45 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Lorianne
Howard Hawks hated the idea in High Noon of the lawman going around asking for help so he made in response to it Rio Bravo...one the greatest westerns. In it John Wayne never asked for help although he did get it in limited ways from the other characters.


3 posted on 03/12/2006 11:33:17 AM PST by xp38
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To: Lorianne
I find all the bitching about anti-male bias to be unmanly.
6 posted on 03/12/2006 12:02:39 PM PST by Physicist
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Manly man . . .

LOL.

7 posted on 03/12/2006 12:13:56 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Lorianne
He cites the Berkeley linguist Lakoff, for example, for her work documenting how women frame requests in an apologetic, super-polite way.

.."We woman use super polite frames" says Georgie..rhymes with...

8 posted on 03/12/2006 12:21:08 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: Lorianne; Slip18; NYC GOP Chick; hellinahandcart; sweetliberty; CARepubGal; LisaMalia; Ganymede; ...

Women who love manly men. Let me know if you want on or off the Retro Sexual ping list.

10 posted on 03/12/2006 12:47:02 PM PST by jellybean (George Allen 2008)
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Harvey Mansfield, conservative political theorist and academic provocateur, argues that women--and society--need to come to terms with 'manliness' ___ WHO IS NOT JUST a man, but a manly man?M/i>

Here's a good set of guidelines.


11 posted on 03/12/2006 12:55:13 PM PST by JRios1968 (A DUmmie troll's motto: "Non cogito, ergo zot")
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Mansfield nominates, among others, the marshal played by Gary Cooper in ''High Noon." When the town's sniveling semi-men slink away from the task, Cooper boldly goes out to fight the thugs arriving in his town. As for the second question-well it just shows how wanly gender neutral our society has become: Manly men scare us.

"Don't shove me Harv. I'm tired of being shoved".

"You're a good-looking boy: you've big, broad shoulders. But he's a man. And it takes more than big, broad shoulders to make a man".

"Don't try to be a hero! You don't have to be a hero, not for me"!

"Stay at the hotel until it's over".

"No, I won't be here when it's over. You're asking me to wait an hour to find out if I'm going to be a wife or a widow. I say it's too long to wait! I won't do it"!

"Amy"!

"I mean it! If you won't go with me now, I'll be on that train when it leaves here".

"manly men scare us"

13 posted on 03/12/2006 1:30:49 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: Lorianne
?Quien Es Mas Macho?


16 posted on 03/12/2006 2:14:34 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Lorianne
WHO IS NOT JUST a man, but a manly man?

You are going to tell me where you put the manliness, NOW!!

24 posted on 03/12/2006 5:42:20 PM PST by Plutarch
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a blast from the past
26 posted on 03/12/2006 9:03:30 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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bump for later


28 posted on 03/13/2006 9:24:20 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Islam's true face: http://makeashorterlink.com/?J169127BC)
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Liberals are afraid of manly men.

I Luv em.


35 posted on 03/13/2006 6:33:56 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: Lorianne

Geez, I thought that this was a thread about George C. Looney???


40 posted on 03/13/2006 7:52:29 PM PST by eeriegeno
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read later


46 posted on 03/13/2006 8:08:48 PM PST by rattrap
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