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Hecklers harass families of US soldiers killed in Iraq
BREITBART.COM ^ | Mar 12 2006 | staff

Posted on 03/12/2006 10:58:07 AM PST by US admirer

Five women sang and danced as they held up signs saying "thank God for dead soldiers" at the funeral of an army sergeant who was killed by an Iraqi bomb.

For them, it was the perfect way to spread God's word: America was being punished for tolerating homosexuality.

For the hundreds of flag waving bikers who came to this small town in Michigan Saturday to shield the soldier's family, it was disgusting.

"That could be me in that church," said Jackie Sandler whose son Keith is currently serving his second tour of duty in Iraq.

The fringe group of fire and brimstone Baptists from Kansas has been courting controversy for more than 15 years, traveling the country with their hateful signs and slogans.

The Westboro Baptist Church first gained national notoriety when they picked the funeral of Matthew Shepard, a Wyoming student who was murdered in 1998 for being gay.

They have since picketed the funerals of Frank Sinatra and Bill Clinton's mother, celebrated the terrorist attacks of September 11 as an act of God's wrath, and have even targeted Santa Claus and the Ku Klux Klan.

But it was the callousness and cruelty of harassing the grieving families of soldiers at dozens of funerals across the country that has sparked a grassroots movement of bikers determined to drown out the jeers and taunts.

In Flushing, Michigan they turned their leather-clad backs to the five women and held flags and tarps up so that mourners walking past wouldn't see the signs saying "God hates fags," "fag vets" and "America is doomed."

Many found it hard to hide their anger when Margie Phelps, the daughter of Westboro's founder, called out "All this for little old us? Oh, you shouldn't have. I feel so special," before she started singing "the Pope, the Pope, the Pope is on fire. He don't get no water let the heretics burn" in front of a Catholic church.

The glee with which the women hurled insults made John Franklin, 64, sick to his stomach.

"This guy's family deserves a peaceful funeral. It's not right what they're doing," said Franklin, who fought in the Vietnam War. "The only reason they're able to walk around like that is because the veterans fought for their freedom."

While Westboro's congregation remains stable at around 100 people - most of whom are the extended family of founder Fred Phelps - the ranks of the Patriot Guard Riders has swelled to more than 16,000 in just a few months.

The protests come at a time when many Americans think the war in Iraq was a mistake but are anxious to show their support for the troops.

Four states have enacted legislation barring protests at funerals and a dozen more are in the process of introducing bans. But it is unlikely that the bans will stand up to legal challenge.

The group is careful to protest in public spaces and is well aware of its constitutional rights - 11 of Phelps' 13 children are lawyers.

"This nation is poised to trash the first amendment just to stop my preaching," Fred Phelps said in a telephone interview. "I'm kind of honored."

Phelps said he and his congregants are targeting the funerals because God's way of punishing an "evil nation" of "fags and fag enablers" is to "pick off its children."

"I don't have any sympathy for these parents. They're all going to hell," Phelps said. "The family's in pain because they haven't obeyed the Lord God."

The group is so outrageous that some among the extreme-right have speculated that Phelps is a plant aimed at giving the anti-gay movement a bad name, said Mark Potok, the director of the intelligence project at the Southern Poverty Law Center which tracks hate crimes.

"I don't think they have any constituency beyond their own members - even the Nazis aren't interested," he said.

Phelps' virulence and frequently graphic condemnations of anal sex could mask a deeper issue than a radically literal interpretation of the Bible, Potok speculated.

"This man probably thinks more about gay sex than any other person in the United States of America and one can only guess at what that means," he said. "Many of the most homophobic people are deeply afraid that they might be gay."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Philosophy; US: Kansas; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: baptists; cultleader; fredphelps; idiots; nuts; patiotguardorg; religiouszealots
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If there is a hell, I believe there will be a special circle for religious idiots/zealots like these.
1 posted on 03/12/2006 10:58:11 AM PST by US admirer
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To: US admirer

I'm glad I wasn't there, else I'd be in jail right now asking for a trial by jury.


2 posted on 03/12/2006 11:00:00 AM PST by Loud Mime ("Countdown" - A documentary about Keith Olbermann's dwindling IQ)
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One of these days Phelps is gonna get stomped like a narc at a Hell's Angels rally.


3 posted on 03/12/2006 11:00:56 AM PST by Shaun_MD (Punch a Hippy today. The life you save could be his.)
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If there is a hell, I believe there will be a special circle for religious idiots/zealots like these.
Can't we just ship them to Iraq so that they can spend the remaining 10 minutes of their lives explaining their beliefs to the jihadists?
4 posted on 03/12/2006 11:01:31 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: US admirer

Amazing what the APOSTATE people do with their wretched God-Hates-You theology. They better take a close look att he end of Revelation and internalize the coming penality of "adding to and taking away from" the words God has given us.

Sad too that they make a mark that is held against all believers who are all to gleeful to associate those bigots with the rest of Baptists.


5 posted on 03/12/2006 11:02:06 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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I wouldn't be too worried,the prosecutor has to get a Grand Jury to indict first.Won't happen in this part of the country.


6 posted on 03/12/2006 11:02:56 AM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Loud Mime; sure_fine; beyond the sea

Big damned ditto to that, LM, or I'd be in the cell next to you.


7 posted on 03/12/2006 11:02:58 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (Borders, Language, Culture™)
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"If there is a hell, I believe there will be a special circle for religious idiots/zealots like these."

These folks are no more religious than the radical Muslim terrorists. They're all psychotics who pervert God's message. Nothing with that much hate in it comes from God.

8 posted on 03/12/2006 11:06:06 AM PST by hometoroost (TSA = Thousands Standing Around)
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They will be arrested in Oklahoma and other states if they show up at funerals now....new laws are being passed!


9 posted on 03/12/2006 11:07:00 AM PST by Doctor Don
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"This man probably thinks more about gay sex than any other person in the United States of America and one can only guess at what that means," he said. "Many of the most homophobic people are deeply afraid that they might be gay."

Yup. No doubt about it. Phelps gets off getting his fudge packed hard. He and the rest of his dinnermashing family are scum.

10 posted on 03/12/2006 11:08:57 AM PST by rickmichaels
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The Westboro Baptist Church..

Where are the drunk theater students when you need them?

11 posted on 03/12/2006 11:09:29 AM PST by csvset
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He seems like the perfect anti-Christian disinfo artist.


12 posted on 03/12/2006 11:09:52 AM PST by TEEHEE
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If I ever find myself near these people, I will not be contained.

I will open up a serious can of whoop ass on them.


13 posted on 03/12/2006 11:11:17 AM PST by Radix (Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
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Phelps said. "The family's in pain because they haven't obeyed the Lord God."

Hey Phelps, you depraved S.O.B, I think there is a special pain waiting for you when your number comes up

14 posted on 03/12/2006 11:14:04 AM PST by Horatio Gates (Islam is an exercise in fatality.)
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GOOD ! Glad to hear they'll do jail time if they try.....

Wonder why the Baptist church allows such from any individual baptist's or baptist church ?......Shame on em for allowing it to happen.

15 posted on 03/12/2006 11:15:19 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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Five women sang and danced as they held up signs saying "thank God for dead soldiers" at the funeral of an army sergeant who was killed by an Iraqi bomb.

With all seriousness, if this happened at my childs funeral there would be 5 dead protester on the ground.....

16 posted on 03/12/2006 11:17:45 AM PST by Decepticon (The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day (NRA)
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To: Squantos

"Wonder why the Baptist church allows such from any individual baptist's or baptist church ?"

There are several Baptist organizations but I don't think you have to be a member of any of them to claim your church as "Baptist".


17 posted on 03/12/2006 11:19:45 AM PST by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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Reminds me of Chaucer's Summoner's Tale, where all the friars (hypocritical religionists) live under the devil's tail.... I'd quote it but it is pretty profane.


18 posted on 03/12/2006 11:20:08 AM PST by I still care ("For it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: TEEHEE

I've always though that. This guy is too outrageous to be taken seriously. I think his true goal is to make the Republicans and conservatives look bad.


19 posted on 03/12/2006 11:21:15 AM PST by Shaun_MD (Punch a Hippy today. The life you save could be his.)
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To: US admirer

I think the statement about FP and his 'followers' being
plants is true--REAL Christians would NEVER act like this! :*(

Prayers to the families of those heroes who have died so that FP and his ilk have the freedom to say whatever they want-
even though it's crap!


20 posted on 03/12/2006 11:21:28 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX)
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