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New Suit over NJ's Smoking Ban
6abc action news ^ | March 7, 2006

Posted on 03/08/2006 5:02:34 AM PST by SheLion

Where's there's smoke, there's a lawsuit. A coalition of bars, restaurants and bowling alley operators filed a federal lawsuit in Trenton today to strike down New Jersey's indoor smoking ban as unconstitutional.

The group is angry that the law excludes Atlantic City casinos,

The Smoke-Free Air Act bans smoking in restaurants, bars, private office buildings and other indoor places but permits it on the casino floors.

Sponsors and supporters said the casino exemption was needed to keep the casinos competitive with those in other states where smoking is allowed.

Attorney Robert Gluck says the group would be satisfied if the ban included every establishment.


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The Smoke-Free Air Act bans smoking in restaurants, bars, private office buildings and other indoor places but permits it on the casino floors.

This Smoke Free Air Act must be all puffed up and just full of themselves. 

   

1 posted on 03/08/2006 5:02:40 AM PST by SheLion
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To: The Foolkiller; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; kattracks; Judith Anne; ...

2 posted on 03/08/2006 5:03:25 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

-Sponsors and supporters said the casino exemption was needed to keep the casinos competitive with those in other states where smoking is allowed.-

Translation: Bad health is A-OK with us as long as it makes us a lot of money!


3 posted on 03/08/2006 5:06:33 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: AmericanChef
Translation: Bad health is A-OK with us as long as it makes us a lot of money!

Exactly!  They talk out of both sides of their nasty mouths!

4 posted on 03/08/2006 5:09:05 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: AmericanChef

I would have liked being a fly on the wall when those politicians recieved their payoffs from the casino owners ot their association.


5 posted on 03/08/2006 5:13:56 AM PST by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: SheLion
... Attorney Robert Gluck says the group would be satisfied if the ban included every establishment.

Or allowed for some "Pro-Choice" accomodation?

6 posted on 03/08/2006 5:14:37 AM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: SheLion
All these suits just seem to want to squabble over the totality of the ban and not the bad science and outright fraud that the bans were (are) based on.

Like that thread yesterday about SHS and Coronary Heart Disease.

7 posted on 03/08/2006 5:16:34 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: SheLion

Then why couldn't they have smoke-free casinos? Aren't there people out there who would like to gamble in clean air?

Answer: Probably not many. The type of person who frequents casinos will gamble also on health. These are not the smartest folks around. If only they were interested in health.

I would be happy to see the NJ casino business go under. It is all a vast swindling operation, anyway, We were promissed that it would lower our taxes: it didn't. We were promised that it would make jobs for the poor of old Atlanti City: it didn't. The caisnos brought in their own people, and the poor were shoved aside.

Though one might have thought that it was a tall order to make NJ politics even more corrupt, the casinos have accomplished that seemingly impossible task.

Casinos teach a bad lesson to society, and undermine healthy styles of work and pleasure.

Casinos and smoking: perfect together.


8 posted on 03/08/2006 5:20:56 AM PST by docbnj
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Hey, Goody Two Shoes! If you don't want to smoke --DON'T! If you don't want to gamble -- DON'T !
Stop preaching and trying to run other people's lives.


9 posted on 03/08/2006 5:59:47 AM PST by festoon
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To: metesky
All these suits just seem to want to squabble over the totality of the ban and not the bad science and outright fraud that the bans were (are) based on.

Like that thread yesterday about SHS and Coronary Heart Disease.

Following the smoking bans across the United States over the past few years, private business owners are starting to wake up.  Except the sheeple ones in Maine, of course, that couldn't stand up for themselves to save their own businesses!

The taxes smokers pay on cigarettes are being fed into the Partnerships for a Smoke Free Everything and turned around and used against the smokers with bans, control and restrictions. 

And when a state says they need to raise cigarette taxes to balance their damn budgets, do you really believe the states want smoke free???!!!

10 posted on 03/08/2006 6:00:35 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Americanexpat
Payoffs? Acceding to threats, more likely.
11 posted on 03/08/2006 6:03:00 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: docbnj

IMO if they closed the Casino's in Atlantic city , your state would have to take on that whole city as one big welfare city. The casino's are all thats keeping Atlantic city alive.

I went there last year to stay a few days.I left in a few hours.. Get past the line of Casino's and the rest of the city is a ghetto. You cant even see the Ocean or the beaches from the Boardwalk for the fake dunes. No-if nothing else Atlantic City casino's keep an otherwise dead city, barely alive.


12 posted on 03/08/2006 6:10:12 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: docbnj
Then why couldn't they have smoke-free casinos? Aren't there people out there who would like to gamble in clean air?

A lot of your nicer casino's, like in Las Vegas, have huge smoke eaters.  The air is clear as glass.  You have to look to see if anyone is smoking.  You can't see the smoke and you can't smell it.

With the big smoke eaters today, there is no reason for a business to be stinky from stale smoke and beer.  The owners need to make a little investment.

13 posted on 03/08/2006 6:10:32 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: metesky
All these suits just seem to want to squabble over the totality of the ban and not the bad science and outright fraud that the bans were (are) based on.

Why shouldn't they?

THAT battle has already been lost. As business owners they have taken up the most practical 'Plan B'.

14 posted on 03/08/2006 6:33:11 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Free Republic, the newspaper I can talk back to!)
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To: sgtbono2002

I'm not a big fan of Atlantic City, but when you say you can't see the ocean or beaches from the Boardwalk, you're just plain wrong. You sure you were in AC?


15 posted on 03/08/2006 7:04:29 AM PST by d-back
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To: SheLion

Thanks for the ping!


16 posted on 03/08/2006 8:14:18 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: d-back

Hardly wrong at all. Maybe you are 20 feet tall I am merely 6 foot. They have piled the dunes at the edge of the Boardwalk so hig you cannot see the Ocean. They had walks about every 400 feet where you cold walk out for a look, but from the Boardwalk it was impossible to see the Ocean.

Now perhaps in some places it is possible I cannot speak for the whole city, but where I was it wasnt possible. Harrahs.


17 posted on 03/08/2006 9:12:52 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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