[Glenn]

Breaking only.

[stinkerpot65]

What is it with the military persecuting their own troops?

[CheneyChick]

Better link?

[nj26]

Horrible if true...

What a loss to our country for a guy like that to die so young...

[Archangelsk]

This is going to lead to places noone wants to go. Sad day for our country.

[newzjunkey]

I hope this doesn't turn into a media circus but no doubt it will. This will really drag further on the moral of the war effort and those supporting the troops from the home front.

[mystery-ak]

The DOD must have new evidence or someone talked....

[Americanexpat]

If he was killed during a fire fight by his own side dosent mean it would be criminal. Friendly fire deaths happen all the time in every war. Now if he was killed deliberately by another soldier it isnt friendly fire it is murder and should be investigated as a criminal case.

[SevenMinusOne]

All the asinine rumors regarding what happened to Rgr. Tillman are awful.

So are those who are trying to suggest this case will cause much erosion to the current war effort....or that this case will take this Nation "down a road we don't want to go".

Such hyperbole BS! By many who don't have a clue what they are talking about.

A criminal probe coming from this (if it happens) will not be based out of some "premeditated killing of Rgr. Tillman".. Or any silly as$ rumors such as that....but out of complete and utterly reckless actions by a fellow Ranger (which is sadly the case).

Should this move to the criminal process? I don't believe so. But at the same time I haven't given it enough specific thought either (regarding this specific case).

However, without a doubt and completely being aware and understanding of not only the FOW but also Mr. Murphy.....the reality is Rgr. Tillman died giving 110% of himself while fellow Rangers acted with complete recklessness (which lead to his death).

[ScreamingFist]

The Army in May of 2004 determined that Tillman, 27, was probably killed by gunfire from his own unit during the intense firefight.

This is old news, unless Tillman was killed INTENTIONALLY it more MSM hype. Additional info......5.56 mm....7.62-mm, and is it in the back of the body or the front...this isn't rocket science folks.

[armymarinemom]

The investigation will not hurt nears as much as the rumors that have been flying since this happened.

[shield]

Friendly fire deaths were huge in NAM...I've been told totally due to the large number of draftees in the service in those days [most were not accidents].

I wonder why this is now a criminal investigation? Where's there's smoke there must be fire. I hate to hear this.

[Mr. Brightside]

Tillman's family demanded to know why his uniform and body armor were burned a day after he was killed and why they were not immediately told he might have been killed by fellow soldiers..... soldiers involved in the incident said they burned the items because they had taken pictures of the scene, walked around and knew how Tillman had been killed.... Initially, Tillman's blood-covered uniform and armor were said to have been destroyed because they were considered a biohazard.

The parents, and the nation, deserve the truth.

Covering up a wrong-doing is not good for the nation or good for the memory of Pat Tillman.

[American Vet Repairman]

"The Army in May of 2004 determined that Tillman, 27, was probably killed by gunfire from his own unit during the intense firefight."


This is old news and Tillman was a great man who paid the ultimate price- however I as a former infantryman have great reservations about his enlistment and service.

1. He was a promotional target for the enemy.
2. He should have went in as an officer.
3. Any conflict he had with his team would already be labeled as some jerk being jealous of him. No matter what the truth may be.
4. His death would be high profile.

[melt]

Were there any Muslims in his unit?

[FlingWingFlyer]

They can do all the "probing" they want. The result is going to be the same. Anyone who has ever been in the military and has read the after action report knows that this was another typical, Army SNAFU. Nothing "criminal" about it but it gives the JAG guys and gals something to do.

[ArtyFO]

This could get even worse. Pat's brother was in the SAME PLATOON as he was when he was killed. I'm sure the Army has identified the weapon that killed Pat. Originally, the Army ruled the death as "fratricide". What if it really was fratricide?

[rbg81]

I just hope that (if they charge someone) it's based on objective facts rather than political expediency. Tillman's death is a tragedy (as is everyone's death), but many people die due to the fog of war. You can try your darndest to minimize it, but you'll always have it. I would hate to see some honest soldier railroaded just so the Family can have someone to blame.

[Radix]

Criminal probe?

Wow. Sounds as if there may have been some bad blood between the units which has come out in interviews. This is not good news.

This is a nightmare.

[vox_freedom]

For those who are interested, besides speculating:

A Pentagon official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the new investigation has not been formally begun, said it would focus on possible charges of negligent homicide.
link to beitbart.com news

Negligent homicide is different than murder...

[benjibrowder]

I love how they shout it out all over the internet! (/sarc)

The troops of his contingent must be infuriated and demoralized...(assuming of course this is just a bunch of bull, which I think it is). But even so, this isn't something that should be out on the internet and in the papers. What the family must be thinking right now...?!

Was this willingly given or was it leaked? And it would be horrible if it turned out to be a normal case of friendly fire.