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Army to open criminal probe of Tillman death
CNN Online ^ | 03/04/2006 | Barbara Starr

Posted on 03/04/2006 1:15:22 PM PST by Glenn

Edited on 03/04/2006 1:43:51 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. Defense Department inspector general has directed the Army to open a criminal investigation into the death of former NFL star Pat Tillman, CNN learned on Saturday.

Tillman was killed on April 22, 2004, during a ground convoy assault not far from Khowst, Afghanistan, near the eastern border with Pakistan. Two other coalition soldiers were wounded in the ambush and an Afghan militia force soldier was killed.

The Army in May of 2004 determined that Tillman, 27, was probably killed by gunfire from his own unit during the intense firefight.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; arizona; arizonacardinals; army; armyrangers; cnnsonsofbitches; fragging; friendlyfire; gwot; nfl; oef; pattillman; rangers; tillman
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To: Bubbatuck

I agree.


21 posted on 03/04/2006 1:50:10 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Glenn

The DOD must have new evidence or someone talked....


22 posted on 03/04/2006 1:53:08 PM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: mystery-ak

Yes...what a horrible thing for the parents to be going through...


23 posted on 03/04/2006 2:02:08 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: stinkerpot65
All kinds of rumors floating out there. Something about his own brother shooting him.

It's time to end this story NOW.

24 posted on 03/04/2006 2:02:18 PM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: OldFriend

His own brother?


25 posted on 03/04/2006 2:03:32 PM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Glenn
If he was killed during a fire fight by his own side dosent mean it would be criminal. Friendly fire deaths happen all the time in every war. Now if he was killed deliberately by another soldier it isnt friendly fire it is murder and should be investigated as a criminal case.
26 posted on 03/04/2006 2:04:35 PM PST by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: mystery-ak
That's the ugly rumor. Someone is feeding this fire. Frankly, it's going to cause nothing but problems for all the guys in the unit. To suggest that this was anything more than an accident can only harm everyone involved.

In war, bad stuff happens.

27 posted on 03/04/2006 2:04:57 PM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: mystery-ak

And we thought that with Hackworth consorting with the devil that this kind of nightmare was finished.


28 posted on 03/04/2006 2:05:50 PM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: OldFriend

I have to disagree, somewhat...if this was murder, it should be investigated.....like I said, the DOD has re-opened this for some reason...I'm sure they wanted this settled a long time ago..


29 posted on 03/04/2006 2:07:20 PM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
this may have been a "jealousy" situation

That was my first thought when I heard of a criminal investigation. If there's such an animal out there, we'd better get to the bottom of it.

30 posted on 03/04/2006 2:08:19 PM PST by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: Archangelsk
This is going to lead to places noone wants to go. Sad day for our country.

No good American would want to go...but there are those on the left who will be quite glad. :-(

The end of neo-conservative denial, innocence and naivete for one.

You nailed it.

31 posted on 03/04/2006 2:13:31 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Glenn
All the asinine rumors regarding what happened to Rgr. Tillman are awful.

So are those who are trying to suggest this case will cause much erosion to the current war effort....or that this case will take this Nation "down a road we don't want to go".

Such hyperbole BS! By many who don't have a clue what they are talking about.

A criminal probe coming from this (if it happens) will not be based out of some "premeditated killing of Rgr. Tillman".. Or any silly as$ rumors such as that....but out of complete and utterly reckless actions by a fellow Ranger (which is sadly the case).

Should this move to the criminal process? I don't believe so. But at the same time I haven't given it enough specific thought either (regarding this specific case).

However, without a doubt and completely being aware and understanding of not only the FOW but also Mr. Murphy.....the reality is Rgr. Tillman died giving 110% of himself while fellow Rangers acted with complete recklessness (which lead to his death).

32 posted on 03/04/2006 2:15:20 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: Glenn
The Army in May of 2004 determined that Tillman, 27, was probably killed by gunfire from his own unit during the intense firefight.

This is old news, unless Tillman was killed INTENTIONALLY it more MSM hype. Additional info......5.56 mm....7.62-mm, and is it in the back of the body or the front...this isn't rocket science folks.

33 posted on 03/04/2006 2:17:51 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: OldFriend

And other rumors about silencing his dissent on Iraq.

Regardless, it's not good. But honour is the burden of the good guys, and if we must investigate our own, it's because we aren't barbaric thugs like our enemy.


34 posted on 03/04/2006 2:18:41 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Glenn

The investigation will not hurt nears as much as the rumors that have been flying since this happened.


35 posted on 03/04/2006 2:23:54 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Gondring

Casualties by "friendly fire" aren't at all unusual.

What is unusual is the unending persecution of those who made mistakes.

Who can say now what happened during a night of comabt, without having been there? We don't need more second-guessing because someone wants to find a villain in all this.


36 posted on 03/04/2006 2:26:23 PM PST by CondorFlight
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To: All

Note to all. This is the third title that CNN has used. I've changed it for the second time.


37 posted on 03/04/2006 2:29:41 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Gondring
And other rumors about silencing his dissent on Iraq.

Right. Let me guess where such rumors come from.....the same same liberal panty wastes that applauded his death?

38 posted on 03/04/2006 2:30:47 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: CondorFlight
Casualties by "friendly fire" aren't at all unusual. What is unusual is the unending persecution of those who made mistakes Who can say now what happened during a night of comabt, without having been there? We don't need more second-guessing because someone wants to find a villain in all this.

If that is what happened, then I say forget it....I would like to know why this has been re-opened....new evidence relating to his death?.....I'm willing to bet the DOD never wanted this re-opened...something has happened.

39 posted on 03/04/2006 2:32:13 PM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Admin Moderator

I'm sure CNN is working hard at getting the headline sufficiently provocative and anti-military.


40 posted on 03/04/2006 2:37:48 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Casey Sheehan, thank you for your service. I'm proud of you. Even if your own mother isn't.)
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