Posted on 03/01/2006 7:09:06 AM PST by ZGuy
Here in Kalistan judges have been known to throw out pre-nups.
Not in every court district I'm afraid.
In every court district. If both parties can agree on their own terms, the court does not involve itself. The court gets involved in the details only when people involve it.
Not at all. A married woman, particularly a Christian, could, should and usually does, have a great sex life.
I'll admit to being a little old fashioned. I know how men are and I know how women usually are.
For example, when you see a guy is the first natural thought to your mind "I'd hit that"? Probably not. But for most men it is. We try to supress that but the instinct is still there. In most cohabitational relationships the guy is there for the sex.
Missed this. I count both of them as victims. Premarital sex is seldom a good thing. It always has a cost that shows up later in life or even later in the relationship. People are far better off remaining pure until they are married
Yes. But court ordered punitive divorce terms are decidedly tilted.
sad but true.
I'm not blind to the ways men and women approach sex differently, but the point is, men and women make relationship decisions that are mutually acceptable if not beneficial to both for their own reasons. To say that one is merely using the other if a couple lives together before marriage is overly simplistic and under estimates the responsibility both people have for their own actions.
I've read your posts on the above and agree. In divorce situations, throughout American history, women were most often awarded custody of the children, and then also the house because they were awarded custody of the children. These court decisions have NOTHING to do with feminism or even no fault divorce, though divorce, itself, has been on the increase since no fault divorce was instituted. Because more men are experiencing divorce, it is my belief more men are angry about the traditional way the courts have handled divorce. And yes, you are correct. Most couples decide how to handle things, outside of the courtroom.
What I can't stand is that all my married friends with kids never miss an opportunity to ask "When are you guys getting married...when are you having kids?"
Arrrggghhh. I have told them countless times & it never sinks in. My parents don't even ask, but these cult like married folks never stop recruiting.
I don't know where you got this from. I was never asked about his choice of women so I never remarked on it. Was he wrong to marry her, probably, but I didn't know either of them at that point so I can't say for sure.
I will say that any man who marries a divorced woman had better look real close to be sure that her husband was a total cad (that is that he broke the marriage). I'd say the same for any woman marrying a divorced man. I've know several men who've been divorced multiple times and I always wonder why anyone would marry them. Seems if he failed two or more times the odds were very good that he'd fail again.
But you are quick to blame women first in any situation.
You don't know that. You've not seen my response to every situation. Also, in this thread I thought I was blaming both sides of the cohabitation without long haul committment group.
The truth is in divorce situations, the percentage of men and women who are wronged, approaches parity.
I've just not seen that. In the areas I am familiar with the guy gets shafted far more often.
When it gets to court, most courts decide divorce cases the way they have traditionally been handled. Because more couples than ever before in our history are divorcing, more men are speaking out against the way the courts have traditionally decided divorce cases.
I think people are happier if they have dogs. I like a yard with trees in it. I think people should use bright colors when they paint.
These are opinions, John. While I can see societal benefits to the monogamy that has traditionally come from celibacy before marriage, the lack of celibacy was not necessarily the part of the act that brought the benefit, the monogamy and commitment after the commitment was.
Have you maybe talked to more men than women about it?
I've seen enough of your responses, on enough threads to tell, John. Your comments about women are far more negative then your comments about men. And you've been called on them several times by a number of us. Not until Hair and I pointed them out to you on this thread, did your comments become more reasonable.
As I said before, I am grateful for the men in my life who were FAIR when it came to these topics. I have never heard them phrase things the way you do and thank God. There is NOTHING in what they said which gave me an inkling that such was the way they really thought either.
I can recall in highschool hearing the female students who went "too far" with the male students being called "whores." The unfairness of it, struck a strong chord with me, because it wasn't what I was taught at home, or in religion class either. My beliefs about it haven't changed and never will. Some of the comments you make are precisely the same kind of thinking.
Where were you when I need you?????
I actually did a count of the divorced people I know. And women wronged to men wronged comes up almost equal, with women wronged slightly ahead. And some of the spouses who were the culprits, were family and friends.
All I know from knowing people is if you only hear one side, you don't know the whole story. :~D
People rarely admit their own fault in a situation, though I have met some people who do.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.