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Bush disagrees with South Dakota abortion ban
AFP ^ | 1 March 2006

Posted on 02/28/2006 6:36:43 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

US President George W. Bush signalled his opposition to a South Dakota abortion ban that forbids the procedure even in cases of rape or incest, saying he favors such exceptions.

But Bush declined to predict the outcome of any legal challenges to the legislation, which would make it illegal to terminate a pregnancy except in rare cases when it may be necessary to save the life of the mother.

"That, of course, is a state law, but my position has always been three exceptions: Rape, incest, and the life of the mother," the US president told ABC news in an interview.

Asked whether he would include "health" of the mother, Bush replied: "I said life of the mother, and health is a very vague term, but my position has been clear on that ever since I started running for office."

The bill, which recently gained final approval from South Dakota's House of Representatives, directly contradicts the precedent set in 1973 when the US Supreme Court ruled that bans on abortion violate a woman's constitutional right to privacy.

The bill grants no allowances for women who have been raped or are victims of incest. Doctors who perform abortion would be charged with a crime. It also prohibits the sale of emergency contraception and asserts that life begins at fertilization.

The governor of South Dakota has indicated he is likely to sign the bill.

A leading pro-choice advocacy group has already vowed to challenge the ban in federal court. But that seems to be exactly what many promoters of the legislation seek.

Advocates of the ban do not deny they aim much higher than South Dakota, a rural and socially conservative state, which even today has only one abortion clinic.

Instead, they are hoping the bill will offer a full frontal assault on legal abortions now that the balance of power in the Supreme Court appears to have shifted with the confirmation of conservative jurists John Roberts and Samuel Alito, both of whom are seen as pro-life.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionban; deadbabies; freepertimewarp; incest; misleadingheadline; presidentbush; rape; readthearticle; southdakota
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

The Blood of Christ is stronger than any sin... this doesn't mean He okay's it....

don't water Him down... God is a RIGHTEOUS GOD.....He doesn't take sin lightly.... this is why He gave His ONLY SON for our sins and not a goat....


621 posted on 02/28/2006 8:59:34 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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To: DuckFan4ever

petronski is generally well regarded...the F bomb was a bit declasse, but in a friendly scream-fest about abortion, ...well, we are all grown ups here...hehe.


622 posted on 02/28/2006 8:59:57 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht
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To: clawrence3

Yes, there is always the chance something can go wrong. The difference is in this case something goes wrong and someone dies. In the case of abortion, everything goes right and someone dies..


623 posted on 02/28/2006 9:00:04 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: eeevil conservative

I think it's wonderful you made that decision for yourself. But it's not the government's job to make that decision for you. I am not "pro-life" if that's what it means. As a matter of fact, I think it's evil and far from conservative to have the almighty government make that decision for anyone.


624 posted on 02/28/2006 9:00:22 PM PST by firequarrel (The Republican Party had been taken over by a "bunch of kooks" - Barry Goldwater.)
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To: Petronski

Well I, for one am THRILLED! LOL!


625 posted on 02/28/2006 9:00:28 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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To: jdm

Thanks.






I really did tell an RS clerk my zip was 12345, only to add that sarcastic refutation. It was very fun.


626 posted on 02/28/2006 9:00:46 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: eeevil conservative
DANG! SOmeone stole my car last week...you mean I don't have to accept that? I can just snap my fingers and get my car back?

WOW!

Who knew?

Ummmm....I thought we were discussing the issue at hand....

Rape, criminal, felony acts, etc.

God, marriage, the act of conception - and that does not include rape - between a man and a woman, etc.

Then I looked at your profile.

Mildly surprised to see that you are of the female persuasion.

Still trying to figure out how, or why, you equate something of a material nature - a car being stolen ?? - to a violent act done to another human being - and the result of that act.

Rape is one of two justifications for an abortion.

I have two sisters. Each one has had an abortion, one for rape, the other because she damn near died.

A stolen car???

627 posted on 02/28/2006 9:01:09 PM PST by LasVegasMac (High octane gas and lots of horse power.....Let's do it!)
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To: boomop1

Well that leaves you the entire AF doesn't it.


628 posted on 02/28/2006 9:01:21 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Justice and "The Law" are not always the same thing.)
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To: Petronski

LOL... I thought that's what you were saying, but I wasn't sure. You never know on these abortion threads ;).

Honestly, I always think of Woody in "Toy Story" fighting with the green alien men "Stop it you ZEALOTS!" when he's trying to keep Buzz Lightyear from Sid.

Yes, I watch a lot of kids movies. What about it? :P


629 posted on 02/28/2006 9:01:24 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Petronski

Next time I'm going to tell you to sit on your hands :-)


630 posted on 02/28/2006 9:01:34 PM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: DuckFan4ever

LOL! Are you sure you didn't mean to post that to YOURSELF?

WOW! Talk about PROJECTION!

YOU NAILED IT!


631 posted on 02/28/2006 9:01:58 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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To: Petronski

Argh. I missed it. Well...I'm sure it was good.


632 posted on 02/28/2006 9:02:26 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Aussie Dasher

Every abortion is a tragic decision - I think you can still be pro-life, however, and cease fighting anymore once 99.99999% are banned.


633 posted on 02/28/2006 9:02:33 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: LasVegasMac

(eye roll)

okay...my smarmy sense of humor is beyond some folks.... I get it...


634 posted on 02/28/2006 9:02:42 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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To: firequarrel

It is no less evil if an individual makes the "decision" to murder another human being. THAT is evil.

The government would be doing one of the few things it is supposed to do. Defend and protect those who cannot do for themselves. In this case, we are talking about babies.


635 posted on 02/28/2006 9:03:18 PM PST by DameAutour (I'm uniquely one of us and one of them.)
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To: Hildy

It's a horrible situation but why does the baby have to die rather than being put up for adoption?


636 posted on 02/28/2006 9:03:29 PM PST by fabian
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To: firequarrel

Will_Zurmacht last words in 2020:

"Look. I-- I'd had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was, 'That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah."


637 posted on 02/28/2006 9:03:37 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht
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To: TigersEye
Given the clear manipulations we see in the press every day I should think not.

So he has anchored the free traders and the religious right; by the end of the week he might suggest lifting the tax stamp and registration requirement on fully automatic weapons - just to reel in the 2nd amendment crowd.
638 posted on 02/28/2006 9:03:41 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: prairiebreeze

There are a lot of them around, sadly, because I have seen sound and strong arguments made on both sides of every issue around here.


639 posted on 02/28/2006 9:03:41 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: cyborg

ouch... that'll leave a mark....


640 posted on 02/28/2006 9:03:56 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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