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Bush will veto any bill to stop port deal
AP ALERT

Posted on 02/21/2006 12:32:20 PM PST by Brian Mosely

ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE (AP) — President Bush says the deal allowing an Arab company to take over six major U.S. seaports should go forward and he will veto any bill that would stop it.


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To: MNJohnnie

"Funny how the foes of the Port Deal STILL cannot explain why it is FINE for this company to run operations and ship TO dozens of US ports millions of containers over the years."

Shipping containers have been a point of concern, as far as being a potential terrorist threat, for a long time. That has not changed, and it certainly doesn't imply some sort of standing, tacit approval of potential sources for the potential terrorist threat posed by shipping containers.

To imply that this was some sort of tacit approval is disingenuous.

To further imply that anyone in the United States who questions the wisdom of allowing a Middle Eastern country to control port operations during a time when we are at war with certain elements within Middle Eastern society is some sort of racist xenophobe begs the question as to just how much of a conservative you, yourself are, if you've internalized the language of "control through racial intimidation" that has, up until this point, been strictly the province of raving leftist moonbats.

So, MNJohnnie, why are you using manipulative language in an attempt at controlling those with whom you disagree? Is your position that weak? It certainly seems so.


1,621 posted on 02/21/2006 5:35:20 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: eyespysomething

I believe the PANYNJ contracts currently with P&O, so the UAE will be purchasing those contracts and operations if the deal goes through.


1,622 posted on 02/21/2006 5:35:35 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Paul Ross

Thanks for keeping this post alive.


1,623 posted on 02/21/2006 5:35:42 PM PST by sarasota
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To: Thetaxman

" Is operating our own ports beneath American companies these days?"
O'Reilly is in support of this action saying we would "emabarass" our allies by saying who or who cant own our ports...why not let Donald Trump have it or some other American business concern? or atleast pass a law saying NO foreign company can own our ports because of security and no one is embarassed.... I think on this one George has made some deals concerning US property on their lands so why not let them use ours ? I dont agree with this logic but I think it's the only reason why he has done this.


1,624 posted on 02/21/2006 5:35:49 PM PST by Searching4Justice
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To: sinkspur

One day you will be standing in line with a plastic jug and you will remember this thread.


1,625 posted on 02/21/2006 5:36:26 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when")
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Like I said. And they will come with tenure.


1,626 posted on 02/21/2006 5:36:45 PM PST by DoNotDivide (Romans 12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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To: Searching4Justice

***or atleast pass a law saying NO foreign company can own our ports because of security and no one is embarassed.***

First, ask yourself WHY there are no American Large Port operators?? Many companies manage THEIR OWN port ops, but there is no large management group........

Is it because competition keeps the margins so low, that it's simply not worth throwing HUGE sums of Capital at??


1,627 posted on 02/21/2006 5:38:44 PM PST by tcrlaf
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To: DoNotDivide

(good post by DoNotDivide needs to be repeated):


See if you follow this:

ConAgra=United Arab Emirates

Farmer=America's DHS

Fields=America's Ports

Who *really* controls the farm (ports)?



1,628 posted on 02/21/2006 5:38:54 PM PST by Cedar
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
I deeply mistrust the UAE. Because of their support for terrorism.

How is the UAE supporting terrorism?

1,629 posted on 02/21/2006 5:39:14 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: ConfederateAmerican23

Welcome to FR. Thanks for your input of "Bush showing his turbin"


1,630 posted on 02/21/2006 5:39:21 PM PST by eyespysomething (Iran is like the slightly retarded cousin that keeps asking Santa for a shotgun.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

In short, instead of taking a must needed and vitally necessary step in the right direction (Border & Port Security During Wartime, if not at ALL TIMES), we take ANOTHER STEP in the WRONG DIRECTION - and in TOTAL DEFIANCE EVEN!!


1,631 posted on 02/21/2006 5:39:24 PM PST by DoNotDivide (Romans 12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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To: clawrence3; La Enchiladita
"DPW would not be responsible for cargo screening, which is performed by the Department of Homeland Security, but the port operator is responsible for securing cargo coming in and out of the port, the port facility itself and the hiring of security personnel."source

I hate to don the proverbial tinfoil hat here, but that's merely the opinion of Sharon Kehnemui Liss, the person who wrote that report at Fox News. I see no source to back up the claim she makes.

I'm not a troll I promise. :) I'm just BAFFLED by this move, by an administration that (admittedly) I have been disappointed by in recent months. I would love to "come back into the fold" though! I would love to come back to the optimism I felt when I campainged for Bush in Baltimore, MD (not an easy or well received task, I believe I can say with confidence! LOL )

Can someone provide a link or other reason why I shouldn't believe this decision wasn't made not only for political correctness sake, but for rational reasons as well?

1,632 posted on 02/21/2006 5:40:07 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: ConfederateAmerican23

Welcome to FR


1,633 posted on 02/21/2006 5:40:22 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: Cedar

Thank you for keeping your eye on the ball instead of getting caught up in the shell game.


1,634 posted on 02/21/2006 5:40:34 PM PST by DoNotDivide (Romans 12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
To further imply that anyone in the United States who questions ...... is some sort of racist xenophobe begs the question as to just how much of a conservative you, yourself are, if you've internalized the language of "control through racial intimidation" that has, up until this point, been strictly the province of raving leftist moonbats.

Bump.

1,635 posted on 02/21/2006 5:40:35 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: tcrlaf
Then we're whining about how much the Gov Spends...

The problem here is not what the government spends, it is how they are spending it. If you are telling me we can't afford American labor due to the unions, then the unions are the problem--not the money spent. Look, I'm still trying to get over the fact that we are contracting this business out to foreign countries.

1,636 posted on 02/21/2006 5:40:52 PM PST by World'sGoneInsane (LET NO ONE BE FORGOTTEN, LET NO ONE FORGET)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
One day you will be standing in line with a plastic jug and you will remember this thread.

Huh?

1,637 posted on 02/21/2006 5:41:38 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: TomGuy

I heard Rush today, I can't bear to listen to him anymore. No wonder Michael Savage calls him "Hush Bimbo." Someone said that Savage might turn to the pro-side, I think not, I have him on now. I'm glad to see more against than for, hopefully that wil be enough to stop this.


1,638 posted on 02/21/2006 5:41:42 PM PST by Nowhere Man ("Imhotep! Imhotep! IMMMM-HOOOO-TEPP!!!")
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To: RegulatorCountry
To further imply that anyone in the United States who questions the wisdom of allowing a Middle Eastern country to control port operations during a time when we are at war with certain elements within Middle Eastern society is some sort of racist xenophobe begs the question as to just how much of a conservative you, yourself are, if you've internalized the language of "control through racial intimidation" that has, up until this point, been strictly the province of raving leftist moonbats.

"Certain elements". Is UAE among those "elements"?

This is nothing but hysteria, and the conservative media has fostered it.

You folks are going to look and feel awfully stupid in a week or so, when Frist and Hastert and crew, with red faces, say "never mind."

1,639 posted on 02/21/2006 5:41:53 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Paul Ross

Great post. I don't think the supporters of this move have any reason to back it other than a blind loyalty to the President. Nothing else makes sense.


1,640 posted on 02/21/2006 5:42:13 PM PST by Junior_G
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