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Federalist Patriot bashes Abe Linclon
2/17/06 | Mobile Vulgus

Posted on 02/17/2006 5:47:19 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus

I don't know how many of you get the Federalist Patriot report via email, but it is a great source of conservative news and opinion that all of you should get.

You can find their site at:

http://patriotpost.us/

Anyway, even though I support them, they sent out an email today that bashed Abe Lincoln fiercely. I was so moved to annoyance by their biased and ill thought out email that I had to write them and say how disappointed I was.

You can go to their site and see the anti-Lincoln screed that they put out to know exactly what I am replying to if you desire to do so.

Now, I know some of you freepers are primo confederate apologists so I thought this would stir debate on freerepublic!!

Now, let the fur fly as we KNOW it must...


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To: dljordan

Ha, ha

I guess I just love to see slavery loving, white trash acting, neo-Confederates get all steamy mad!!

But, seriously, the Federalist was so far off base that it really amazed and saddend me. I am generally a huge supporter of their work.


21 posted on 02/18/2006 1:39:51 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Rapscallion
Most historians and academics attribute greatness to presidents who have shifted powers from the other branches of government to the executive. I do not ascribe to this belief. Regardless of motivation, consequence or outcome Lincoln's presidency was a travesty.
22 posted on 02/18/2006 1:49:36 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Mobile Vulgus
are you REALLY DUMB enough to believe that ANYBODY is "slavery loving" in THIS country????

if you are, i PITY you.

and fwiw, there are NO "neo-confederates". that term of abuse is straight out of the most extreme, lunatic, LEFTIST wing of DY/northeastern academia.

free dixie,sw

23 posted on 02/18/2006 2:51:00 PM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

Lighten up, Francis!


24 posted on 02/18/2006 3:31:09 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus; tkathy; fortheDeclaration
The most rabid neo-confederates are still upset segregation ended. Some of the worst book peddlers on the subject are "The Doctor of Deceptive - DeLorenzo" & the Kennedy brothers, ranting on & on with new editions of repetitive slavery apologist propaganda.

This backward element always attempts masking their true colours, never succeeding. If they hate the country so much, and desire to depart, there is always an airport near by.

25 posted on 02/19/2006 12:21:28 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
stop posting STUPIDITY & DY PROPAGANDA & i'll be pleased to.

free dixie,sw

26 posted on 02/19/2006 9:32:41 AM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

It's time for the great civil rights Republican Party to rescue their party from the takeover (by neoconfederates who hate everything the reps stand for).


27 posted on 02/19/2006 11:59:02 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf (http://bloodlesslinchpinsofislamicterrorism.blogspot.com))
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To: M. Espinola

Revisionism and denial are the tools of the newconfederates.


28 posted on 02/19/2006 12:00:26 PM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf (http://bloodlesslinchpinsofislamicterrorism.blogspot.com))
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To: billbears
Thanks billbears. The story is posted here

Intersting they noted Hamilton's opposition:

noted in Federalist No. 81 that waging war against the states "would be altogether forced and unwarranted." At the Constitutional Convention, Hamilton argued, "Can any reasonable man be well disposed toward a government which makes war and carnage the only means of supporting itself?"

The FR author's rebuttal hardly makes the case. As noted in the Patriot piece, "Cultural myth, after all, can cloud historical truth."

29 posted on 02/19/2006 12:23:08 PM PST by stainlessbanner (^W^)
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To: tkathy
They rewrote the modern revisionism & denial textbook,
30 posted on 02/19/2006 12:29:34 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: stainlessbanner

Fed 81 was written more as wishful thinking than anything based on historical analysis or the law. The Federalist also wrote against the idea of Political Parties, too. But we had those within a decade after we started the country!


31 posted on 02/19/2006 12:44:31 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: T.Smith
"Secession was a right and the Federal government, under Lincoln, subverted that right."

Absolutely wrong.

Articles of Confederation:

Article XIII. Every State shall abide by the determination of the United States in Congress assembled, on all questions which by this confederation are submitted to them. And the Articles of this Confederation shall be inviolably observed by every State, and the Union shall be perpetual; nor shall any alteration at any time hereafter be made in any of them; unless such alteration be agreed to in a Congress of the United States, and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures of every State.

"And Whereas it hath pleased the Great Governor of the World to incline the hearts of the legislatures we respectively represent in Congress, to approve of, and to authorize us to ratify the said Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union. Know Ye that we the undersigned delegates, by virtue of the power and authority to us given for that purpose, do by these presents, in the name and in behalf of our respective constituents, fully and entirely ratify and confirm each and every of the said Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union, and all and singular the matters and things therein contained: And we do further solemnly plight and engage the faith of our respective constituents, that they shall abide by the determinations of the United States in Congress assembled, on all questions, which by the said Confederation are submitted to them. And that the Articles thereof shall be inviolably observed by the States we respectively represent, and that the Union shall be perpetual."

The moment that the Articles of Confederation were signed, secession was no longer a right.

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32 posted on 02/20/2006 11:02:03 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Pinging you to post #32.


33 posted on 02/20/2006 11:06:13 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: tkathy; All
once more (SIGH!) there is no such group as "neo-confederates"

people who use that "term of abuse" are 100% DUMB or terminally IGNORANT and/or filled with HATRED for dixie & her people.

free dixie,sw

34 posted on 02/21/2006 8:48:42 AM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: tkathy; All
SORRY, but i'm NOT going to let you get away with that LIE!

REVISIONIST/REVISIONISM is a "term of art" in historiography, which has a fixed & well-known meaning.

REVISIONIST historiography/thought is LEFTIST/south-HATING & KNOWINGLY FALSE!

free dixie,sw

35 posted on 02/21/2006 8:51:12 AM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: M. Espinola; All
yet ANOTHER arrogantly ignorant & DUMB comment from FR's main DUMB-bunny, "m.eSPINola" the hater.

free dixie,sw

36 posted on 02/21/2006 8:52:51 AM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Thanks for the ping!

Exactly correct.

The reason for the Constitution was to form a more perfect Union, not a loose collection of quasi-nations.

37 posted on 02/21/2006 1:13:01 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Gal. 4:16)
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To: stand watie
HATRED for dixie & her people.

No, we love 'dixie' so much that Lincoln had the song played after he found out Lee had surrendered.

Dixie is part of America.

38 posted on 02/21/2006 1:19:46 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Gal. 4:16)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

No site attacking Lincoln is conservative or worth paying attention to.


39 posted on 02/21/2006 1:22:13 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
while dixie is certainly part of America (the BEST PART, imVho), the south-HATERS (unfortunately there are SEVERAL on FR) HATE dixie and our southern people too. FACT!

free dixie,sw

40 posted on 02/21/2006 2:30:18 PM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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