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To: billbears
Thanks billbears. The story is posted here

Intersting they noted Hamilton's opposition:

noted in Federalist No. 81 that waging war against the states "would be altogether forced and unwarranted." At the Constitutional Convention, Hamilton argued, "Can any reasonable man be well disposed toward a government which makes war and carnage the only means of supporting itself?"

The FR author's rebuttal hardly makes the case. As noted in the Patriot piece, "Cultural myth, after all, can cloud historical truth."

29 posted on 02/19/2006 12:23:08 PM PST by stainlessbanner (^W^)
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To: stainlessbanner

Fed 81 was written more as wishful thinking than anything based on historical analysis or the law. The Federalist also wrote against the idea of Political Parties, too. But we had those within a decade after we started the country!


31 posted on 02/19/2006 12:44:31 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: stainlessbanner

Hamilton would have been the first to take up arms against the traitors attacking America. He would not have hesitated in attacking the secessionists. Anyone claiming anything to the contrary simply have no clue about the great Hamilton.

After all he was a founder of the NY Manumission Society and defended slaves whose masters were attempting to drag them back into bondage.

So don't try and drag his good name through the mud.


47 posted on 02/21/2006 2:55:44 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: stainlessbanner

That link shows little beyond the incomprehension of the Constitution that the author has. It was NOT a contract between the states but a creation of the American people. This fundamental flaw undermines all argument based upon it.


51 posted on 02/21/2006 3:04:13 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: stainlessbanner

They also included a nice quote from one of today's premier consrevative minds:

"The War between the States...produced the foundation for the kind of government we have today: consolidated and absolute, based on the unrestrained will of the majority, with force, threats, and intimidation being the order of the day. Today's federal government is considerably at odds with that envisioned by the framers of the Constitution... [The War] also laid to rest the great principle enunciated in the Declaration of Independence that 'Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed'." —Walter Williams


You don't have to be a confederate apologist to question some of the actions of the U.S. President during the Civil War.


77 posted on 02/22/2006 5:14:11 AM PST by WayneS (Follow the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th.)
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