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HE FOUGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY ... BUT HE'S NOT WORTHY.
Nealz Nuze ^ | 12 February 2006 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 02/15/2006 6:51:30 AM PST by rattrap

His name was Gregory Boyington. Some called him "Pappy." He served as a combat pilot in World War II with the 1st Squadron, American Volunteer Group. This squadron was known as the Flying Tigers of China. Boyington later served as a combat pilot for the U.S. Marine Corps. He commanded Marine Fighting Squadron 214. Perhaps you've heard of this squadron. It was called the Black Sheep Squadron and was later featured in a TV series called "Baa Baa, Black Sheep." Boyington shot down 26 Japanese aircraft while serving in the Pacific. He was later shot down and spent 20 months in a Japanese POW camp. For those of you who aren't up to par on World War II history, Japanese POW camps were not happy places. Torture .. .and we mean real torture, not stripping them naked and taking snapshots. After the war Pappy Boyington was awarded the Navy Cross and the Medal of Honor. He died in 1988. You can visit his grave in Arlington National Cemetery.

Education? Oh yes! Almost forgot! Pappy Boyington was a graduate of the University of Washington. Just recently the idea of erecting a memorial to this Medal of Honor winner at the University of Washington made its way to the student senate. Here you have an alumnus who served in World War II. was captured and held, and was later awarded the Medal of Honor and the Navy Cross. Perhaps some sort of monument would be a good idea!

Well .. not to Jill Edwards. Thanks to the folks at WorldNetDaily we can show you a copy of the minutes of a meeting of the student senate at the University of Washington. Under old business there was a discussion of a resolution calling for a tribute to Pappy Boyington. Student senate member Jill Edwards immediately moved to table the resolution. She wanted other issues to be considered. Another member said that the issue was at the top of the agenda and should be dealt with. Jill's motion failed, but she wasn't through. There was then some discussion on why Andrew Everett, another student senate member, wanted the memorial. Everett responded that Colonel Boyington "had many of the qualities the University of Washington hoped to produce in its students." Well, I guess that might be true, if leadership and courage are considered to be good qualities. Anyway ... that's when Jill Edwards spoke up and showed her true colors. She questioned whether it was appropriate to honor a person who killed other people. Then the lovely Jill Edwards said that a member of the Marine Corps was not an example of the sort of person the University of Washington wanted to produce.

Shall I repeat that? Jill Edwards, a Junior in Mathematics at the University of Washington, says that a U.S. Marine is not the example of the sort of person that the University of Washington wants to produce. Let's let this sink in. To all of you men and women out there who have served with pride in the United States Marine Corps; to those of you who fought in World War II, Korea, Vietnam and the Middle East, Jill Edwards, student senate member at the University of Washington, thinks that you are unworthy to be graduates of the University of Washington. My father was a Marine. He's buried in the National Cemetery at Ft. Sam Houston in San Antonio, Texas beneath a grave market that reads "Neal A Boortz, Sr. Lt. Col. USMC. World War II, Korea, Vietnam." Therefore, I think that Jill Edwards is an ignorant fool. I would submit that Jill Edwards is am embarrassment to the University of Washington. With her mathematics degree and her leftist outlook on life my guess is that she'll end up being a teacher in a government school. Oh goody.

By the way .. there's at least one more moonbat on the U of W student senate. Her name is Ashley Miller. Ashley says that there are already enough monuments at UW commemorating "rich white men." Well .. I guess you have to get that wealth-envy stuff in there somewhere.

Don't you just love these young people? They're so much fun to watch during those magic years when they know everything and when they have all of the answers to every problem facing mankind. As I said the other day, we should take 100 volunteer members of university student senates from across the country --- and let's make sure Jill Edwards is one of them --- and give them a country to run for four years. Haiti would do just fine.


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To: usmcobra

Look, I served my country too.

Do you really want to pic nits? We are on the same side.


101 posted on 02/15/2006 4:33:41 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: Supernatural

Which branch?


102 posted on 02/15/2006 4:58:00 PM PST by usmcobra (I'm a Marine on currently on inactive status awaiting an eternal change of duty station)
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To: usmcobra

Check out my home page.


103 posted on 02/15/2006 4:59:37 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: happyathome
I don't mean to p--- anyone off needlessly, but isn't this fairly typical of the Northwest, or at least the coastal Northwest?

Unfortunately...it's typical of many state supported universities.

Not just the NW....

104 posted on 02/15/2006 5:02:50 PM PST by Osage Orange (I'd rather hunt quail with Dick Cheney, than ride in a car with Ted Kennedy.........)
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To: sgtbono2002
Jill Edwards is not at fault here, she is merely the product of an education system that is destroying America.

I suppose I see your point.....

Although if she IS a student of math...Surely she can see that MILLIONS of people have bravely DIED...so she could act like a donkey.

105 posted on 02/15/2006 5:06:49 PM PST by Osage Orange (I'd rather hunt quail with Dick Cheney, than ride in a car with Ted Kennedy.........)
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To: Supernatural

You were wearing a Marine Corps Cover, does that make you a soldier? A Marine? A Corpsman? A SeaBee?

Are Airmen, Soldiers as well?

We may be on the same side but there are marked differences in the ways in which we were trained, served, and the names by which we prefer to be called.

All Marines earn the right NOT to be called soldiers, because there are fundimental differences between them and the Army, That you a USAF vet did not learn that during the time you served is mindboggling.


106 posted on 02/15/2006 5:18:47 PM PST by usmcobra (I'm a Marine on currently on inactive status awaiting an eternal change of duty station)
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To: usmcobra

My dad was a SeaBee. He was on his way to Japan for the big invasion. One of his duties was to drive a Higgins boat during the invasion...a boatload of Marines.

I served my country honorably in the U.S.A.F. on a nuclear missle base in Cheyenne, WY.

Its a free country.

I have been chastised by about five Marines on this thread. I have gone out of my way to make amends with them. Have you read this whole thread?

I am getting tired of Marines. They used to have my respect, but I am rapidly losing it for them. That is my right. Because of you and guys like you.

Shove off, mate.


107 posted on 02/15/2006 5:22:27 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: rattrap

If the University of Washington doesn't see fit to honor one of its alumni, a Medal of Honor winner and National Hero, then they should not receive any Federal Funding Whatsoever, even if it means losing the ROTC units there. Not one dime of my federal tax dollars show go to this institution of lower living.

But alas, the White House and Congress are too Cowardly and/or Lazy to ever give the thought of withholding Federal Funds to any anti-american institutions much thought.

Just the thought of watching at least half of these tenured, commie, half wit professors laid off and forced to find a real job would make all the handwringing worth it.

I would laugh my head off if the President and Congress ever found the Courage to actually just propose that Federal Funds be withheld from these types of "Educational Institutions". The Commies would be seen jumping off their Dorm Roofs.


108 posted on 02/15/2006 5:30:15 PM PST by AmericaOne
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To: Supernatural
Because we Marines don't like to be called soldiers by you.

You should know better, maybe you do and are being confrontational for your own jollies.

I'll take your "Shove off Mate!" as sincere an apology as you can give.
109 posted on 02/15/2006 5:32:47 PM PST by usmcobra (I'm a Marine on currently on inactive status awaiting an eternal change of duty station)
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To: usmcobra

You are the one being confrontational.

I'll be waiting for your apology. When I get one from you, I'll give you one back. You started this whole thing.


110 posted on 02/15/2006 5:46:33 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: happyathome
I don't mean to p--- anyone off needlessly, but isn't this fairly typical of the Northwest, or at least the coastal Northwest?

Here in Ashland, OR, several yrs back, well, maybe a yr back, some vandals removed the head from an Abe Lincoln statue in our park.

Abe continues to stand headless. As far as I can tell no one cares.

111 posted on 02/15/2006 5:51:56 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: Supernatural
"He(Pappy Boyington) might have been a poor soldier...."

His record speaks for itself,
a Superb Commander,
An Ace many times over,
Awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor,
A legend amoung Aviators
and a credit to The Marine Corps and it's esprit de corps,

But to you he might have been a "poor soldier".

Don't hold your breath waiting for my apology.

Just whimper some more about your wounded ego.
112 posted on 02/15/2006 6:28:17 PM PST by usmcobra (I'm a Marine on currently on inactive status awaiting an eternal change of duty station)
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To: usmcobra
When I call someone a soldier, I mean to give them a very high compliment. Soldiers sleep in foxholes, in the mud, in the rain, in the snow. Soldiers get frostbitten and lose fingers and toes and sometimes arms and legs. Soldiers walk for miles with heavy packs on their backs in freezing cold and hot humid jungles. Soldiers get blown up with land mines and artillery and mortars. Soldiers get machnegunned and bombed by enemy aircraft. Soldiers lose arms and legs and eyes in battle. Soldiers eat crummy food for days on end. Soldiers jump out of airplanes to get at the enemy. Soldiers protect our country.

You are right, Marines are not soldiers. Please accept my sincere apology for ever confusing a Marine with a soldier.
113 posted on 02/15/2006 6:52:59 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: usmcobra

Boyington was a drunk and had many fights with his superior officers. Nobody questions that. What happened to him when he was in the Flying Tigers?

That he was a brave man I never questioned. I did call him a good fighter. I even posted the reasons he was awarded the Medal of Honor.

You never did read this whole thread, did you?

Quite frankly, I am very proud of the man.

You really are a big jerk, aren't you?


114 posted on 02/15/2006 7:31:51 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: Supernatural
If you are so proud of him why do you go out of your way to highlight his faults as you see them first?

"Boyington was a drunk"
Boyington was a man that found solice in a bottle to deal with the horrors of captivity at the hands of the Japanese.

"Boyington had many fights with his superior officers"

Boyington was a strong willed commander idolized by his men and envied by his superiors.

"What happened to Boyington in the Flying Tigers and why was he hated by them?"

You mention how Marines rub you the wrong way, how thick headed they appear to you when they tell you how they like to be addressed, Boyington in the Flying Tigers would have been exactly the same. He would have tried to bend them to the mold he saw as the best IE: the way a Marine would do things, that's why he was generally hated by those he served with in the Flying Tigers.

You really are a big jerk, aren't you?

I at least read this thread and my own words enough times to know what I was trying to say to you. I've been called worse by better.
115 posted on 02/16/2006 4:26:36 AM PST by usmcobra (I'm a Marine on currently on inactive status awaiting an eternal change of duty station)
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To: usmcobra

Once again let me apologize for mistaking a Marine for a soldier.

When I call someone a soldier, I mean to give them a very high compliment. Soldiers sleep in foxholes, in the mud, in the rain, in the snow. Soldiers get frostbitten and lose fingers and toes and sometimes arms and legs. Soldiers walk for miles with heavy packs on their backs in freezing cold and hot humid jungles. Soldiers get blown up with land mines and artillery and mortars. Soldiers get machinegunned and bombed by enemy aircraft. Soldiers lose arms and legs and eyes in battle. Soldiers eat crummy food for days on end. Soldiers jump out of airplanes to get at the enemy. Soldiers protect our country.

Soldiers are brave and wonderful people who willingly sacrifice their lives for their country. I have nothing but complete and total respect for a soldier.

You are right, Marines are not soldiers. Please accept my sincere apology for ever confusing a Marine with a soldier.


116 posted on 02/16/2006 5:30:31 AM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: rattrap

While I do not like what they did, I think that they unknowingly did him a favor.

Gregory Boyington was and still is to have his statue placed among the degenerates and perverts at the U. of W.


117 posted on 02/16/2006 5:38:35 AM PST by sport
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP; weegee

Will someone, anyone, please explain to me how there is a statue of Lenin proudly on display in a public square ANYWHERE in this country???


118 posted on 02/16/2006 5:42:07 AM PST by Fintan (Shut up. You're rude and silly. And ugly.)
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To: Fintan

I think the HOW is that it was Soviet surplus aftet the collapse.

The WHY is because of revisionist history which insists that there is nothing bad about Communism or the USSR.


119 posted on 02/16/2006 5:45:59 AM PST by weegee (We are all Danes now.)
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein

I sent Ms. Edwards an e-mail.

It was very difficult to keep the contents decent.


120 posted on 02/16/2006 5:47:35 AM PST by sport
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