In robberies, Milwaukee's Chief Hegerty said, "even after the person gives up, the guy with the gun shoots him anyway. We didn't have as much of that before."A large part of the problem, the police say, is simply more guns on the streets as gun laws have loosened around the country. In Philadelphia, Commissioner Johnson said, since the state made it easier to get a gun permit in 1985, the number of people authorized to carry a gun in the city has risen from 700 to 32,000.
How many of those were involved in murders, the NY Times doesn't say.
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1 posted on
02/12/2006 3:45:31 PM PST by
neverdem
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To: neverdem
Interesting article:)The NYTimes has absolutely ZERO credibility with me.
2 posted on
02/12/2006 3:50:26 PM PST by
Thombo2
To: neverdem
Interesting article:)The NYTimes has absolutely ZERO credibility with me. reading the NY locals is like reading Steven Kings discarded scratch pads. The stuff that happens here is to sick to be believed.
If the NYTimes is running this story, there's a reason behind it. I'm thinking of Hillary Clinton at this point....
To: neverdem
This sounds suspiciously like cherry-picking examples to support a preconceived agenda.
4 posted on
02/12/2006 3:54:44 PM PST by
George Smiley
(This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
To: neverdem
Interesting article:)The NYTimes has absolutely ZERO credibility with me. reading the NY locals is like reading Steven King's discarded scratch pads. The stuff that happens here is too sick to be believed.
If the NYTimes is running this story, there's a reason behind it. I'm thinking of Hillary Clinton at this point....
To: neverdem
Suspects tell the police they killed someone who "disrespected" themI can't help but think that our national obsession with being 'dissed' and ones' 'civil rights' being anything one feels like doing is somehow correlated to the schools' national obsession with self-esteem.
6 posted on
02/12/2006 3:58:59 PM PST by
Lizavetta
To: neverdem
Angry liberals offing each other? They need to get a grip on all that rage. It can be murderous.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
7 posted on
02/12/2006 4:06:03 PM PST by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: neverdem
Suspects tell the police they killed someone who "disrespected" them or a family member, or someone who was "mean mugging" them, which the police loosely translate as giving a dirty look. And more weapons are on the streets, giving people a way to act on their anger. Let me see. "Disrespected"? "Mean mugging"? 'He bumped into me,' 'He looked at my girl the wrong way,', "even after the person gives up, the guy with the gun shoots him anyway. We didn't have as much of that before."
The article dances around ethnic and racial and illegal immigration issues related to this reported upsurge in murders, but strangely the reasons are still portrayed as mysterious and unknowable. It couldn't be that PC is preventing an esteemed news source such as the New York Times from frank and honest reporting, could it?
8 posted on
02/12/2006 4:07:12 PM PST by
The Electrician
("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
To: neverdem
Surprised that Cincinnati is not on this list.
9 posted on
02/12/2006 4:07:37 PM PST by
TSgt
(Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
To: neverdem
It does not surprise me because it seems as though the entitlement mentality of certain populations who breed like rabbits and have no real responsibility have not been taught civilized behavior by the very nanny government who feeds their dependent behavior. You can't blame the guns on that one.
To: neverdem
As a resident of Illinois the fiefdom of Daley I can tell you why crime might be rising in Milwaukee. Daley has been succesful in gentrification of alot of neighborhoods, and in effect sending his criminals out of Chicago.
11 posted on
02/12/2006 4:12:33 PM PST by
junta
(It's Jihad stupid! Or why should I tolerate those who hate me?)
To: neverdem
What I get from this story -- is that we should arm EVERYONE in all the "Liberal Enclave" cities, and step back...
The leftist degenerates will off themselves...
They would even appreciate the fact we've accepted the Darwin theory and working towards natural selection of the most fit....to survive.
Semper Fi
12 posted on
02/12/2006 4:18:00 PM PST by
river rat
(You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: neverdem
If that graph extended back 15 years you would see more of a drop in crime. However, living in Georgia you must be concerned about crime in any city of any size. Atlanta is dangerous in some areas and at night be careful. Also, Savannah, Albany, Augusta, Macon, the list goes on. Recently there has been much concern about gangs in school and home invasions. In particular there was a group of home invasion murderers that were killing and robbing Hispanic immigrants since they don't keep their money in banks.
To: neverdem
I have no doubt that the lady police chief in Milwaukee just wants to make sure she keeps her citizens disarmed in her ass-kissing of the Democrat governor. Police chiefs are politicians, as opposed to being actual cops, and I'll even venture that lady police chiefs are among the worst of a bad lot.
To: neverdem; Clemenza
Kudos to NYC. Folks put the place down, but it works as a city.
16 posted on
02/12/2006 4:27:13 PM PST by
Torie
To: neverdem
In robberies, Milwaukee's Chief Hegerty said, "even after the person gives up, the guy with the gun shoots him anyway. We didn't have as much of that before." So much for "Just give the robber what he wants."
To: wardaddy
Big uptick in Nashville murders ping.
18 posted on
02/12/2006 4:29:11 PM PST by
Torie
To: neverdem
You know, I would SWEAR that I saw an article posted around here just last week that said crime rates were at their lowest in something like...ever.
Crime rate increase/decrease trends can not be assessed year to year. Especially since the yearly murder rates that show an increase are measured in 5 or 10 per 100,000. That is scarcely a crime wave. Especially when you are trying to blame it on an increase in gun permits from 700 to 32,000. This is just dumb.
Also, I noticed it says the 1990s saw a decline while it is going up now. That is so obviously agenda driven it's laughable.
To: neverdem
25 posted on
02/12/2006 4:57:58 PM PST by
UB355
(Slower traffic keep right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>)
To: neverdem
Just when you thought crime was illegal.
28 posted on
02/12/2006 5:13:09 PM PST by
Waco
To: neverdem
I am stunned Baltimore is not on here. I wonder if it has to do with our inept boy mayor running for governor this year...maybe not
31 posted on
02/12/2006 5:29:33 PM PST by
Vision
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