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Violent Crime Rising Sharply in Some Cities
NY Times ^ | February 12, 2006 | KATE ZERNIKE

Posted on 02/12/2006 3:45:28 PM PST by neverdem

MILWAUKEE — One woman here killed a friend after they argued over a brown silk dress. A man killed a neighbor whose 10-year-old son had mistakenly used his dish soap. Two men argued over a cellphone, and pulling out their guns, the police say, killed a 13-year-old girl in the crossfire.

While violent crime has been at historic lows nationwide and in cities like New York, Miami and Los Angeles, it is rising sharply here and in many other places across the country.

And while such crime in the 1990's was characterized by battles over gangs and drug turf, the police say the current rise in homicides has been set off by something more bewildering: petty disputes that hardly seem the stuff of fistfights, much less gunfire or stabbings.

Suspects tell the police they killed someone who "disrespected" them or a family member, or someone who was "mean mugging" them, which the police loosely translate as giving a dirty look. And more weapons are on the streets, giving people a way to act on their anger.

Police Chief Nannette H. Hegerty of Milwaukee calls it "the rage thing."

"We're seeing a very angry population, and they don't go to fists anymore, they go right to guns," she said...

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In robberies, Milwaukee's Chief Hegerty said, "even after the person gives up, the guy with the gun shoots him anyway. We didn't have as much of that before."

A large part of the problem, the police say, is simply more guns on the streets as gun laws have loosened around the country. In Philadelphia, Commissioner Johnson said, since the state made it easier to get a gun permit in 1985, the number of people authorized to carry a gun in the city has risen from 700 to 32,000.

How many of those were involved in murders, the NY Times doesn't say.


1 posted on 02/12/2006 3:45:31 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Interesting article:)The NYTimes has absolutely ZERO credibility with me.


2 posted on 02/12/2006 3:50:26 PM PST by Thombo2
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To: neverdem
Interesting article:)The NYTimes has absolutely ZERO credibility with me.

reading the NY locals is like reading Steven Kings discarded scratch pads. The stuff that happens here is to sick to be believed.

If the NYTimes is running this story, there's a reason behind it. I'm thinking of Hillary Clinton at this point....

3 posted on 02/12/2006 3:54:35 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (nuke everything)
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To: neverdem

This sounds suspiciously like cherry-picking examples to support a preconceived agenda.


4 posted on 02/12/2006 3:54:44 PM PST by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: neverdem
Interesting article:)The NYTimes has absolutely ZERO credibility with me.

reading the NY locals is like reading Steven King's discarded scratch pads. The stuff that happens here is too sick to be believed.

If the NYTimes is running this story, there's a reason behind it. I'm thinking of Hillary Clinton at this point....

5 posted on 02/12/2006 3:54:54 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (nuke everything)
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To: neverdem
Suspects tell the police they killed someone who "disrespected" them

I can't help but think that our national obsession with being 'dissed' and ones' 'civil rights' being anything one feels like doing is somehow correlated to the schools' national obsession with self-esteem.

6 posted on 02/12/2006 3:58:59 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: neverdem
Angry liberals offing each other? They need to get a grip on all that rage. It can be murderous.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

7 posted on 02/12/2006 4:06:03 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem
Suspects tell the police they killed someone who "disrespected" them or a family member, or someone who was "mean mugging" them, which the police loosely translate as giving a dirty look. And more weapons are on the streets, giving people a way to act on their anger.

Let me see. "Disrespected"? "Mean mugging"? 'He bumped into me,' 'He looked at my girl the wrong way,', "even after the person gives up, the guy with the gun shoots him anyway. We didn't have as much of that before."

The article dances around ethnic and racial and illegal immigration issues related to this reported upsurge in murders, but strangely the reasons are still portrayed as mysterious and unknowable. It couldn't be that PC is preventing an esteemed news source such as the New York Times from frank and honest reporting, could it?

8 posted on 02/12/2006 4:07:12 PM PST by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: neverdem

Surprised that Cincinnati is not on this list.


9 posted on 02/12/2006 4:07:37 PM PST by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: neverdem

It does not surprise me because it seems as though the entitlement mentality of certain populations who breed like rabbits and have no real responsibility have not been taught civilized behavior by the very nanny government who feeds their dependent behavior. You can't blame the guns on that one.


10 posted on 02/12/2006 4:08:51 PM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: neverdem

As a resident of Illinois the fiefdom of Daley I can tell you why crime might be rising in Milwaukee. Daley has been succesful in gentrification of alot of neighborhoods, and in effect sending his criminals out of Chicago.


11 posted on 02/12/2006 4:12:33 PM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! Or why should I tolerate those who hate me?)
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To: neverdem

What I get from this story -- is that we should arm EVERYONE in all the "Liberal Enclave" cities, and step back...

The leftist degenerates will off themselves...

They would even appreciate the fact we've accepted the Darwin theory and working towards natural selection of the most fit....to survive.

Semper Fi


12 posted on 02/12/2006 4:18:00 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: George Smiley
In the case of Tulsa....I think it's true.

They have a RINO mayor...who's a good ol' boy that has squandered money on parks, pools, and a white elephant convention center...while letting the police dept. go without.

FWIW-

13 posted on 02/12/2006 4:18:39 PM PST by Osage Orange (I'm caring less, more and more..............)
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To: neverdem
If that graph extended back 15 years you would see more of a drop in crime. However, living in Georgia you must be concerned about crime in any city of any size. Atlanta is dangerous in some areas and at night be careful. Also, Savannah, Albany, Augusta, Macon, the list goes on. Recently there has been much concern about gangs in school and home invasions. In particular there was a group of home invasion murderers that were killing and robbing Hispanic immigrants since they don't keep their money in banks.
14 posted on 02/12/2006 4:24:17 PM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: neverdem

I have no doubt that the lady police chief in Milwaukee just wants to make sure she keeps her citizens disarmed in her ass-kissing of the Democrat governor. Police chiefs are politicians, as opposed to being actual cops, and I'll even venture that lady police chiefs are among the worst of a bad lot.


15 posted on 02/12/2006 4:25:10 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: neverdem; Clemenza

Kudos to NYC. Folks put the place down, but it works as a city.


16 posted on 02/12/2006 4:27:13 PM PST by Torie
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To: neverdem
In robberies, Milwaukee's Chief Hegerty said, "even after the person gives up, the guy with the gun shoots him anyway. We didn't have as much of that before."

So much for "Just give the robber what he wants."

17 posted on 02/12/2006 4:27:54 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: wardaddy

Big uptick in Nashville murders ping.


18 posted on 02/12/2006 4:29:11 PM PST by Torie
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To: Osage Orange

I'm surprised they forgot to add that it's all George Bush's fault.

And don't forget that Dick Cheney just added to the tally of the wounded in Texas : ^ )


19 posted on 02/12/2006 4:30:27 PM PST by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: George Smiley

Why are we commenting on dreck published by the NYT?


20 posted on 02/12/2006 4:35:07 PM PST by CBart95
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