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Public anger at Muslim protesters
The Sunday Times ^ | February 12, 2006 | David Smith

Posted on 02/12/2006 1:03:15 AM PST by vimto

Poll reveals fear of future clashes

PEOPLE in Britain take a hard line against Muslims protesting violently against supposed insults to their religion, and are gloomy about future relations between Muslims and the rest of the population. Muslims protested peacefully in Trafalgar Square yesterday. But a Sunday Times-YouGov poll of more than 1,600 people shows widespread public anger about protests earlier this month in Britain and the worldwide uprising in response to Danish cartoons picturing the prophet Muhammad.

The poll shows that 86% of people think the protests were “a gross overreaction”. By 56% to 29% respondents said it was right to publish the cartoons in Denmark and republish them elsewhere.

Earlier this month Muslim protesters in Britain carried placards urging violence and death against those who insult Islam, and celebrating last year’s July 7 London bombings. Asked about those protests, 58% said it made them angry and 76% said the police should have arrested those carrying offensive or provocative banners.

The police and politicians are criticised more generally for not confronting Islamic extremism, with 80% of respondents saying the authorities show too much tolerance of Muslims who urge extreme acts. Two-thirds, 67%, think this is because senior policemen such as Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan police commissioner, are too “politically correct”.

Such views have been brought to a head by last week’s conviction of Abu Hamza, the Muslim cleric, for inciting religious violence and racial hatred. After reports that his activities had been known to the police for many years, 67% believe he should have been arrested much sooner, and 69% believe he should have been given a “significantly longer” sentence than seven years.

The support for a tough line extends to the anti-terrorism bill, which returns to the Commons next week. Tony Blair backed down on a proposal for terrorist suspects to be held for up to 90 days without charge, but 44% of people back the extension to 90 days, against 42% who say 28 days is an acceptable compromise.

Where foreigners stir up racial and religious hatred, 81% of people think they should be sent back to their own countries, even if to do so would endanger their lives.

There is widespread gloom about the future, with 87% expecting further attacks in Britain by Islamic groups on the scale of the July 7 bombings; and only 17% seeing a future in which there is peaceful coexistence between Muslims and others in Britain, while 67% think there will be a worsening of tensions. This is also true internationally. While 34% say western nations can coexist peacefully with mainly Muslim countries, 45% disagree.


TOPICS: United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: cartoonjihad; cartoons; enoughalready; isalmmuslims; jihad; protests; ukmuslims
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To: farlander
Every day we get closer to the moment when the rest of the west wakes up and forcibly reforms or destroys Islam. I think we're on the brink of western europe's awakening to the threat.

I think you're right. Won't be too long before "Mohammedan Practices" will be declared illegal. That would be all the elements of control they employ, and employ in tandem, what's more, to achieve this mind controlled and suppressed population of theirs.

What exactly those practices are I couldn't enumerate right now, but they will be identified and universally prohibited as surely as one armed salutes, screaming speech rallies, Nazi/Totalitarian symbols and the like are prohibited (particularly in Germany). Watch, Mohammedanism will join Nazism in this status.
41 posted on 02/12/2006 1:58:26 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: vimto

Well we did take out to middle eastern governments as a result...

Arab "logic" is very different that western logic these days. Whenever they pursue PR operations in the west it always goes 100% wrong for them and they don't understand why. All this rioting was suppose to help Iran - it did the exact opposite... It makes people fear Iran with nukes even more and make them more willing to do something about it.


42 posted on 02/12/2006 2:00:34 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: vimto
"86% The other 14% also thought Elvis was alive and kicking and living in Macclesfield."

No, the other 14 percent are muslims. They think the protests are perfectly justified. Telling the TRUTH about Moe Hamhead is an insult to them. Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”

Bukhari:V4B52N220 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.’”

43 posted on 02/12/2006 2:03:23 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: DB
Ack... Make that "Well we did take out two middle eastern..."
44 posted on 02/12/2006 2:06:25 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

England is doomed by their insane political correctness and "human rights" moonbats who set policy in that country.

Until the hate preachers start being deported or get more than 7 years in jail for ploting and helping jihadists, nothing is going to change.


45 posted on 02/12/2006 2:09:17 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: vimto

The difference here is that our "public anger" generally involves bad flatulence and threats of said.

46 posted on 02/12/2006 2:11:30 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: vimto
"That is the hope - Islam has shot itself in the foot! Dull as a brush."

No they haven't. They are just proving they can get away with it, that the resolve of the western world has vanished,and Europe's Christian based culture is dead.

France was the test. Incidentally, they are still burning cars all over France every day. The media just stopped reporting it. France just waved their white flag as usual, offered more appeasements, more social benefits, greater status over the dhimmi's.

The western governments are weak, the people are weak. And now the muzzies will attack everything that bothers them, freedom of speech today, then something else tomorrow, like billboards of women without burka's in underwear. People bringing ham sandwiches to work. etc etc. And the appeasements will just keep coming.

47 posted on 02/12/2006 2:15:09 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: singfreedom
How can you "identify the enemy" when you're still stuck in the mode of searching old ladies (myself included!) and children at airport security??

PRECISELY.

MM

48 posted on 02/12/2006 2:16:29 AM PST by MississippiMan (Behold now behemoth...he moves his tail like a cedar. Job 40:17)
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To: All

ON THE NET...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1576924/posts?page=4#4


49 posted on 02/12/2006 2:40:59 AM PST by Cindy
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To: vimto; All
Everything I have found about The War of the Twelve 'Toons ( links, blogs, quips, quotes, aggravating pictures ) is located here- click the Pic, and scroll backwards:

-Terror Strike- London!--

50 posted on 02/12/2006 3:06:16 AM PST by backhoe
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To: vimto
" we have had terrorist attacks in Europe but for some reason none of them have had a real impact on the psyche of the people."

Most of us separate the extremists from the common Muslim. We have to learn if it weren't for the common Muslim support of the extremists they wouldn't have any backing. Even I do it. We have to prove it is the common Muslim religion that is the problem. We are a long way from proving that to the general public.

51 posted on 02/12/2006 3:17:48 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: vimto

LOL


52 posted on 02/12/2006 3:19:39 AM PST by sangrila
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To: vimto
Er...Queen Mum's dead - so I guess it would frighten the socks off them.

Doesn't matter. They'd Honour-Rape her, anyway.

53 posted on 02/12/2006 3:46:11 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: HHFi
All I can say to the Europeans is, "Welcome to reality. We knuckle-dragging, imperialist, cowboy troglodytes have been dealing with it for about five years now, and it's nice to see you finally waking up to it."

Psst.

You forgot "Dung-caked colonials".

54 posted on 02/12/2006 3:49:27 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: singfreedom
We lose nearly 3,000 people and all our mainstream newspapers can spout is anti-American B.S.! Maybe the Brits are just better at fighting wars than we are--or they have a better sense of their mortality!

They have been bombed a lot more. How many died in the Blitz, for example?

We were always protected by big oceans, and never had to grow a spine.

The generation of children of WWII vets is retiring. All we have writing the "news" is a protected, coddled, neutered subspecies, deprived of nothing except indoctrination by Bottom Third academics.

55 posted on 02/12/2006 3:56:10 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: Gorzaloon

All signs point to one more generation for old Europe...they have brought it on themselves but sad to watch.


56 posted on 02/12/2006 3:58:52 AM PST by rrrod
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To: vimto

Seems to me all this 'outrage' on the Brits part is too little too late.

They have no guns. Not much more needs to be pointed out. They're along for the ride, and it looks like the muzzies are driving.

If I lived in Eurabia, I'd follow the path set by Columbus, and head to America.


57 posted on 02/12/2006 4:02:51 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who have dementia.)
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To: singfreedom
We lose nearly 3,000 people and all our mainstream newspapers can spout is anti-American B.S.!

Use the relevant meauring stick.

The mainstream is old, tired, and outdated. Their lackluster reporting on the cartoon story simply confirms that.

Pay them no mind. The future is on the internet, Fox, and on talk radio. Use that to judge our future if you must.

58 posted on 02/12/2006 4:08:15 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who have dementia.)
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To: vimto

It appears to me those protesters are reinforcing the truth held of islamites within those cartoons.


59 posted on 02/12/2006 4:08:38 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: MississippiMan
Your point about Ian Blair is well taken. they are more concerned about the make up of the police force (no pun intended) than the function of the force.

A typical example of taking your eye off the ball.

kind regards,
60 posted on 02/12/2006 4:26:37 AM PST by vimto (Life isn't a dry run)
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