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Death Wish (Ollie North)
GOP USA ^ | 2-10-06 | Oliver North

Posted on 02/09/2006 8:29:47 PM PST by smoothsailing

Death Wish

By Oliver North

February 10, 2006

"[T]he president is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on Sept. 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons."

So reads "S.J. Res. 23," a Joint Resolution of the Congress, sponsored by then-Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., and signed into law on Sept. 18, 2001, seven days after the most devastating attack that has ever occurred on American soil. Honest people may disagree about whether the Congress needed to give -- or should have given -- the commander in chief the power "to use all necessary and appropriate force." But the Senate voted 98 to 0 and the House 420 to 1 to pass Public Law 107-40 -- giving him just such authority.

Now, in the fifth year of a war America did not start or want, the Congress seems intent on reigning in the president's ability to fight the Global War on Terror.

That is clearly the intent of many -- perhaps even a majority -- on the Senate Judiciary Committee that grilled Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez during a nine-hour-long public hearing this week. The issues -- cloaked in a mind-numbing array of acronyms and the arcane jargon of intelligence collection -- are really quite simple:

First, since the 1970's, Congress has sought to circumscribe the president's powers to collect intelligence and use military force by various laws -- among them, the War Powers Resolution and FISA, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. During a war, does President Bush -- or any other commander in chief -- have the inherent constitutional authority to gather all manner of intelligence on our enemies using a full range of electronic and other collection capabilities?

Second, does Public Law 107-40 -- widely described in Washington as the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) -- supersede normal peacetime proscriptions in intelligence collection?

The Bush administration says "yes" in response to both questions. Many, perhaps most, in Congress seem prepared to say "no" to both. Setting aside the partisan rhetoric from the likes of Sens. Edward Kennedy and Patrick Leahy, there are members who understand the stakes: a delicate balance between Constitutionally protected civil liberties for the American people -- and the legality of intercepting communications between and among those plotting attacks on the American people. What is not at issue is the ability of the National Security Agency (NSA) to collect such information -- using methods that were never envisioned when FISA was written.

The 4th Amendment is very explicit that, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause." To enshrine these protections, FISA requires -- with very limited exceptions -- that a warrant be obtained before any government listening or peeking is conducted against Americans. Given what we now know of those who attacked us on Sept. 11, and those who killed in London, Madrid, Bali, and Casablanca, Morocco, such "collection restrictions" make it possible to determine who plotted an attack in its aftermath -- but unlikely that we will be able to prevent such an attack before it occurs.

A retired NSA official and friend put it this way: "Our problem, given the broad array of modern telecommunications technology, is that we don't know what we have until we have it." Put differently, we have the ability to monitor massive amounts of information between persons in the United States and others overseas. Any one of millions of messages, phone calls, faxes, e-mails or data transfers could be an instruction to carry out another Sept. 11. Do we want our government to intercept and act on such communications before an attack and save lives? It has worked before.

Nineteen years ago this month, our intelligence services intercepted a message from an overseas capital instructing a terrorist "sleeper cell" in a Washington, D.C. suburb to assassinate a U.S. military officer living in northern Virginia. The FBI alerted the target, and the Department of Defense secretly moved the officer, his wife and children to a military base in North Carolina. The terrorists were apprehended as they prepared to carry out their attack. The technology used to detect the attack is still secret. The lives that were saved were mine and those of my wife and children.

Do we want our government to be able to save lives like this -- very likely on a far broader scale -- in the future? If so, then at the very least, we should take the debate behind closed doors and stop risking the compromise of very sensitive collection capabilities.

Attorney General Gonzales put it succinctly in his testimony before the Judiciary Committee this week: "Our enemy is listening. And I cannot help but wonder if they aren't shaking their heads in amazement at the thought that anyone would imperil such a sensitive program by leaking its existence in the first place -- and smiling at the prospect that we might now disclose even more or perhaps even unilaterally disarm ourselves of a key tool in the war on terror." Failing to heed this advice is nothing short of a death wish.

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Note -- The opinions expressed in this column are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions, views, and/or philosophy of GOPUSA.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: deathwish; gwot; homelandsecurity; north; ollienorth; spying; surveillance; terrorattack; terrorism; wot
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To: smoothsailing

btt


61 posted on 02/10/2006 3:30:45 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: planetpatrol

I guess I am making excuses for Oliver North with this post, but I suppose that Winston Churchill, FDR, Truman, et al were compromised for having to deal with Stalin. I suppose all political leaders are compromised when dealing with some of these other "leaders." Sometimes you do what you gotta do. Oliver North did run that program but I do not believe he thought it up. I read his novel Mission Compromised where he writes himself in the story. The main character - who now has the job and office North use to have under Reagan - asks North in the story what was his big mistake. North says something to the effect that he believe his higher ups when told that only he could make this work. He basically admits his ego and pride got in the way and he went under. Don't forget, Oliver North was a rising star in the Marine Corps and if not for the SNAFU, he may well be General North today - a four star! He has done good things in the past and still does good things today and if in a bar or a tight situation, I would like to have a man such as North watching my back.


62 posted on 02/10/2006 3:53:38 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Watery Tart


LOL on the link!


63 posted on 02/10/2006 4:48:38 AM PST by onyx
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To: MHGinTN

I agree.


64 posted on 02/10/2006 4:51:09 AM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: scratcher
The Dims worst nightmare is Ollie for POTUS in '08.
He might not be a front runner but he would have a
platform that would point out the weak position they
have on DOD and Security! He would also make a
very good VP choice. Just My Opinion.

Plus his name makes a very good chant:

Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie!
Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie!
Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie!
65 posted on 02/10/2006 4:59:06 AM PST by blue_nova
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To: BigSkyFreeper

IBTZ ?? !!


66 posted on 02/10/2006 5:07:37 AM PST by halfright (3 Days post Hanoi Jane....2200 Meeting of the band of brothers to piss on her grave...Semper Fi...)
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Yeah right, I bring up the facts about North and all the sudden I'm Ted Kennedy's swim coach? I say that supporting bad actors like North hurts the conservative side, Hackworth nailed that guy. North was convicted of three counts in the affair, only a techicality unrelated to his guilt saved him from jail. Real heroes dont barter with the likes Hezzballah and dont run all night evidence shredding sessions in the Whitehouse. He might look handsome to some but that doesnt do a thing for me, character counts.

If you found out the Whitehouse was selling arms to Bin Laden would you be so accepting?


67 posted on 02/10/2006 5:20:56 AM PST by planetpatrol
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To: smoothsailing; Bahbah
Failing to heed this advice is nothing short of a death wish.

Amen. I do love Ollie North! :o)

68 posted on 02/10/2006 5:52:54 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: StarCMC
I do love Ollie North!

And you are far from alone in that :)

69 posted on 02/10/2006 6:15:45 AM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake and a member of Sam's Club)
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To: Bahbah

LOL!! What's not to love?? *G*


70 posted on 02/10/2006 6:37:57 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: blue_nova

roflol

You will see conservatives coming out of the woodwork and out of their graves before that would happen. Just because they are quiet today does not mean they will be quiet tomorrow.


71 posted on 02/10/2006 6:38:56 AM PST by petitfour
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To: jazusamo
"Coffin" Colmes? I like it. He does look like a cadaver, huh?
72 posted on 02/10/2006 6:39:34 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: planetpatrol; Coop; Darksheare; stephenjohnbanker; King Prout; darkwing104
Pinging some folks to your ignorant post.

Yeah Ollie knows how to deal with terrorists who threaten Americans! He'd sell em some weapons systems and say pretty please Iran, tell Hezbollah not to take any more hostages. Anytime that guy comes on the screen I change the channel.

73 posted on 02/10/2006 6:41:27 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: smoothsailing; cgk

Look at my profile page. Ahem. :o)


74 posted on 02/10/2006 6:42:27 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: zot

Did he say whether or not the terrorists in northern Virginia were caught or convicted?


75 posted on 02/10/2006 6:56:05 AM PST by petitfour
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To: planetpatrol
I'm standing up for being tough with terrorists.

Then you're in full agreement with Oliver North.

76 posted on 02/10/2006 6:56:34 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop; planetpatrol

Judging by his screen name, I think he's more in agreement with algore.


77 posted on 02/10/2006 6:57:57 AM PST by onyx
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To: onyx; Coop

LOL! No kidding -- hey -- maybe he's about to invent another internet!!


78 posted on 02/10/2006 6:59:26 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I saw Hannity and Colmes last night. Ollie definitely won the hearts and minds of the American people on this one, if they were vascillating on the issue, talking about the plot to assassinate his family. All the while, Alan Colmes sat there with that stupid "Oh God, he's kickin' my butt" look on his face.


79 posted on 02/10/2006 7:00:14 AM PST by no dems ("99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name." Steven Wright)
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To: no dems

I didn't see the show. Col. North did a great job before the Senate in the 80s. I remember watching and cheering him on. I am wondering, however, if he said what happened to the terrorists who threatened his family. Did the terrorists decide not to go after him? Or were they detained? Maybe he has written about it in one of his books.


80 posted on 02/10/2006 7:05:29 AM PST by petitfour
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