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1 posted on 02/01/2006 7:56:26 AM PST by West Coast Conservative
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Kerry's Presidential prospects are definitely looking up ;)


60 posted on 02/01/2006 8:17:02 AM PST by popdonnelly
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Kerry learned from Bubba to just make up a number insert percentage lather and repeat.

MSM will do the rest

TT
63 posted on 02/01/2006 8:20:18 AM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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Kerry Claims: Only 53% of Children Graduate from High School

What is his plan?

Throwing more money at the problem I hope!

/sarcasm

66 posted on 02/01/2006 8:22:16 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (Mortify your imagination when it saddens you with the prospect of a dreary future.)
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The "Education System" in America has failed.
The only solution is a return to private locally run schools - for those incapable of home schooling.

The Federal and State "educrats" have effectively dumbed down and filled the heads of students with bull squat.

Semper Fi
67 posted on 02/01/2006 8:23:07 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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Of course, Kerry's numbers don't add up.

But a far graver issue than kids dropping out of school is the large number of kids who stay in school and who can't read.


71 posted on 02/01/2006 8:26:34 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood (left unchecked, Saddam Hussein...will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton)
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His statement is TRUE for the worst inner city neighborhoods, which just happen to constitute the core of his blue state base.

As for the rest of America, with largely intact families, he's so far off as to be just funny.

73 posted on 02/01/2006 8:27:33 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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why dont public schools just out-source to private catholic schools for half the cost and twice the edumacation?

A typical public school costs 10,000 per student

A typical private school costs 4000 (but you still have to pay your 'school taxes' too)


74 posted on 02/01/2006 8:27:45 AM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help...)
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58% of all statistics are made up on the spot.


75 posted on 02/01/2006 8:27:55 AM PST by Poincare
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He's wrong.

The stats are a bit slippery, but the best study I'm aware of put the national graduation rate at 71% (1988).

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_baeo.htm

To get into the mid 50s you either have to look at rate for for African-American and Latino students nationally, or the overal rate for a state such as Georgia.

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_baeo_t2.htm


76 posted on 02/01/2006 8:31:48 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros at the end.)
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The statistic is wrong. Still, isn't it interesting that proponents of the public schools use their failure as a justification to ask for more money, more control over children's time and new programs like mandatory pre-school. In most areas of endeavor chronic failures are relieved of responsibility, not granted even more of it.


80 posted on 02/01/2006 8:34:35 AM PST by joylyn
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Like Kennedy, Kerry is a mouth-piece for his left-wing, liberal, Bush-hating staff. He spews what his staff tells him to say. Neither Kerry or Kennedy do any of their own research --- they completely depend on their staffs to 'feed' them the lines.
82 posted on 02/01/2006 8:38:15 AM PST by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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He also said he "earned" 3 purple Hearts.
The man wouldn't know the truth if it hit him in the A$$
If Skerry didn't exist, Karl would have to invent him.
He is Priceless.
84 posted on 02/01/2006 8:41:20 AM PST by DeaconRed (IF . . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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Kerry is still alive ??


85 posted on 02/01/2006 8:44:13 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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I was flipping channels when I saw Lurch. Katie was giving him the "fair-and-balanced" approach (no glasses though) and Kerry's tongue was flicking like a serpent's.


90 posted on 02/01/2006 8:49:23 AM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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What a maroon. After school programs won't help the high school drop out rate. They are baby sitting services with maybe a little time for the kids to get their homework done. Even if there WERE tutors available for the kids, the ones who would take advantage of them are the ones who parents ALREADY are committed to their childrens' educations.

The kids who drop out are either from families who think an education is not a big deal, or who are dead bored with sitting in a classroom day to day and not seeing how it connects with what they might want to do when they finish school. The former won't educate themselves, no matter how much money we throw at the problem because it is not in their worldview. The latter may benefit from vocational education programs that will teach them real-world skills with a bit of liberal arts thrown in their in order for them to get somewhat well rounded, but not with the same expecations of the kids who are preparing for college.

These kids need instruction in skills and trades that will earn them a decent wage, like construction, electrician work, plumbing, and HVAC work. The kids who are interested in this type of education are not interested in diagramming sentences, delving into a literary analysis of James Joyce, or learning the political ins and outs of Modern Europe. Save that for the kids who want to go to college. Give the other kids a break and teach them what they want and NEED do know to earn a decent living.

91 posted on 02/01/2006 8:51:51 AM PST by SuziQ
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Mark Twain lies damn lies and statistics bump.


93 posted on 02/01/2006 8:54:43 AM PST by mc5cents
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In NYC 52% of HS Freshmen will not graduate in four years. That is a fact, and maybe the source of his confusion. Bear in mind that NYC Public Schools are run by a small 'c' communist union.


98 posted on 02/01/2006 9:01:16 AM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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It may be true that only 53% are children who graduated from high school. The other 47% were adults, over 18. Ain't numbers wonderful?


100 posted on 02/01/2006 9:10:53 AM PST by RGSpincich
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But 53 percent of our children don't graduate from high school. Kids don't have after-school programs...

Ooops, Senator, it's 53% that actually graduate. But what I'm curious about is how these rates play out in his home state of Massachusetts where he has been senator for about 3 decades and his party has held a clear majority for ... well for a very long time. Hmm. He and Teddy have been in a position to enhance their own state's educational policies and the Mass state educational system should be stellar then, right? We should be seeing the clear fruits of their efforts within their state. Their literacy and graduation numbers should be phenomenol and a shining example to our nation and to the individual states. Ideas he should be eager to share with the nation in a bipartisan way. *sound of crickets* (I hope the DU trolls are reading this.)

I don't know how Mass state numbers actually play out, but he's just spreading the hate. I'd listen for his reply to this never asked question, but I don't have time to hit the slopes at Davos right now...

102 posted on 02/01/2006 9:11:29 AM PST by fortunecookie
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Where are all of those non-high school graduates? Do they magically disappear forever immediately upon non-graduation?

I say this because I never, ever seem to hear of anybody who fails to graduate. Now, I know this is anecdotal evidence from a middle classer, but with such HUGH numbers overall (53 percent), I would think I'd run into, or reliably hear of, at least some specific individuals who don't graduate from high school, and I never do. Where do they all go?

108 posted on 02/01/2006 9:26:13 AM PST by Irene Adler
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