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Remembering Two Great Americans
EverVigilant.net ^ | 01/19/2006 | Lee R. Shelton IV

Posted on 01/19/2006 11:20:56 AM PST by sheltonmac

You probably won't find anything special printed on your calendar for the 19th and 21st of January. In case you are wondering, those are the respective birthdays of Generals Robert E. Lee and Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson.

As a nation we have already honored Martin Luther King, Jr., and will commemorate the birthdays of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln next month, but Lee and Jackson are especially dear to my heart. They were great men who embodied the inspiring courage, uncompromising honesty, principled conviction and moral fortitude we no longer see in our leaders today.

Both Lee and Jackson were men of action who fought valiantly to defend their homes and families. Jackson made it clear that if it were up to him, the South would "raise the black flag" and show no quarter to the enemy invading their homeland. They realized that while war was sometimes necessary, it should never be entered into lightly. As Lee put it, "It is good that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it."

Lee and Jackson were Southern gents through and through. Consider Lee's Definition of a Gentleman:

Jackson's wife, Mary Anna, wrote of her husband that he "was a great advocate for marriage, appreciating the gentler sex so highly that whenever he met one of the 'unappropriated blessings' under the type of truest womanhood, he would wish that one of his bachelor friends could be fortunate to win her."

Both Lee and Jackson believed in principle over pragmatism. Lee once said, "I think it better to do right, even if we suffer in so doing, than to incur the reproach of our consciences and posterity." Jackson summed it up this way: "Duty is ours; consequences are God's."

Jackson never lived to see the fall of his beloved South, but Lee was gracious even in defeat. When approached by those who wished to remain bitter after surrendering he said, "Abandon your animosities and make your sons Americans." It was his position that "we must forgive our enemies. I can truly say that not a day has passed since the war began that I have not prayed for them."

Above all, Lee and Jackson were men of God. Lee loved to pray. He would be sure to let people know that he was praying for them, and he felt encouraged when he was remembered in their prayers. Once, upon hearing that others had been praying for him, he remarked, "I sincerely thank you for that, and I can only say that I am a poor sinner, trusting in Christ alone, and that I need all the prayers you can offer for me."

Jackson was the epitome of a life devoted to prayer. No matter was too insignificant that it did not warrant communion with the Father: "I have so fixed the habit in my mind that I never raise a glass of water to my lips without asking God's blessing, never seal a letter without putting a word of prayer under the seal, never take a letter from the post without a brief sending of my thoughts heavenward. I never change my classes in the lecture room without a minute's petition for the cadets who go out and for those who come in."

Jackson had an intimate knowledge of the sovereignty of God and rested in the promises of his Heavenly Father. Following the loss of his first wife, Ellie, who died almost immediately after giving birth to a stillborn son, he wrote to his sister-in-law, "I have been called to pass through the deep waters of affliction, but all has been satisfied. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away, blessed be the name of the Lord. … I can willingly submit to anything if God strengthens me." It was this unshakeable faith that taught him "to feel as safe in battle as in bed."

The more I see what passes for leadership today in our government, in our churches and in our homes, the more I am convinced that we need men like Robert E. Lee and Thomas J. Jackson. I guess it's time for me to watch Gods and Generals again.


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To: Godebert
I reckon your Confederate ancestors would be more ashamed of you.

I will take that as the ultimate compliment.

141 posted on 01/19/2006 3:08:31 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: sheltonmac
"Governor, had I foreseen the use those people designed to make of their victory, there would have been no surrender at Appomattox Courthouse; no, sir, not by me. Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomattox with my brave men, my sword in this right hand."
- General Robert E. Lee to Governor Stockdale of Texas, August 1870


142 posted on 01/19/2006 3:13:21 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if ya don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: Melas
As Faulkner is a major interest reread 'Light in August' and think about what Faulkner is saying about those who found in the WBTS/CW a surrogate for a religious crusade with the South being the infidel region. My wife who comes from Sandhill stock in SC commented that in one sentence F was saying 'Hey we know we are screwed up down here , but not anywhere near as screwed up as you people.'

I would add 'Sartorius' to the same list but I understand it was surgically butchered by the publishers before they would print it and I haven't read the full version which I think was titled by F as 'Flags in the Dust'.
143 posted on 01/19/2006 3:15:32 PM PST by robowombat
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To: Badray; bagman

Thanks for the ping Badray........

Seems that I'm a damn Yankee...but Southern at heart.

Ping to Bagman. The mint is beginning to sprout...;-)!


144 posted on 01/19/2006 3:15:54 PM PST by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: robowombat

What state are they from?


145 posted on 01/19/2006 3:18:39 PM PST by exdem2000
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To: Conservative Goddess

"Seems that I'm a damn Yankee...but Southern at heart."

Nope, just Pennsylvanian. It is a great state. I never refer to Pennsylvanians as Yankees.

Remember that James Carville quote, goes something like this (not exact):

"You have Phila on one side, Pittsburgh on the other, and Alabama in between."


146 posted on 01/19/2006 3:18:39 PM PST by SC33
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To: exdem2000

Who?


147 posted on 01/19/2006 3:19:55 PM PST by robowombat
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To: Conservative Goddess
Copperhead!

I've always been suspicious about folks who quote in Latin anyway.

148 posted on 01/19/2006 3:20:33 PM PST by Clemenza
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To: Clemenza

How could they be traitors if the Union was dissolved? How could the United States be "the United States" if the CSA had seceded? Your intemperate allegiance to the victors' history books does you no service. If secession from a Constitution by which only your forefathers agreed to be bound is somehow different in the cases of rule by monarch and rule by mob, you'd better be happy to suck up to Hillary no matter what, because you've given up your right to object to anything she does if elected. Of course you can always move to Swaziland and usurp a monarch there, but not a democratically elected tyrant. God forbid you'd lived in Weimar Germany or Fascist Italy. "Yeah, I know he's killing his opposition, but we elected him, how dare you fight against him, you traitor!"


149 posted on 01/19/2006 3:20:56 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if ya don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: SC33

Thank You kind Sir or Madam.

I believe that is the first time I agree with James Car-vile.

My best to you......


150 posted on 01/19/2006 3:21:07 PM PST by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: robowombat

Your family that fought in the Civil War?


151 posted on 01/19/2006 3:21:56 PM PST by exdem2000
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To: SC33

My husband and I are both from Pa. and heartily agree with that comment, which we have laughed over for years. Whenever we hear a town mentioned that we don't immediately recognize, one of us will say, "Oh, that must be in the Alabama part of Pennsylvania."


152 posted on 01/19/2006 3:22:16 PM PST by linda_22003
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To: LibertarianInExile
The Union WAS NOT dissolved. Renegade treasonous plantation dependent snobs eventually got the point after they got their foppish southern a-sses kicked by an alcoholic General and a po' white trash Commander in Chief.

God bless Abraham Lincoln and the GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC!

153 posted on 01/19/2006 3:22:57 PM PST by Clemenza
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To: exdem2000

My father's people were from Virginia and Louisiana my mother's from Virginia.


154 posted on 01/19/2006 3:23:10 PM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat

Its a great piece of History.


155 posted on 01/19/2006 3:25:32 PM PST by exdem2000
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Here's someone who was influenced by both.

There will be others, I assure you.

156 posted on 01/19/2006 3:26:26 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Clemenza
'White trash' is a curious way to describe Grant. He certainly had come down in the world by 1861. Without the war he would have remained a lost soul mostly dependent on the charity of his snotty brothers and his in laws. But he came from typical middle class stock that happened to live on the north side of the Ohio River (although just barely).
157 posted on 01/19/2006 3:27:05 PM PST by robowombat
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To: linda_22003

I think the "Alabama" part extends further east then most people assume. For example, I don't know if Berks and Lancaster County are considered Southeast or Southcentral PA, but I like them both alot. They have a nice country, "southern" feel.


158 posted on 01/19/2006 3:30:46 PM PST by SC33
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To: Clemenza
Hey now......I'm not all bad.......

I like mint julep's....sipped sparingly (OK, Not so sparingly) while enjoying the pomp and circumstance surrounding the Kentucky Derby.....

One of my trucks sports "Dixie" horns....

And I'd love to move to the great country of Texas (once it secedes), where I'll gladly take my turn guarding our southern border, while sipping sweet tea or a mint julep.

I can't be all bad if I like Mint Julep's....;-)
159 posted on 01/19/2006 3:32:28 PM PST by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: Conservative Goddess

Just be sure to use bar sugar, not granulated, y'hear? :) (My own choice for a good julep is George Dickel - what do you use?)


160 posted on 01/19/2006 3:34:22 PM PST by linda_22003
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