Posted on 01/19/2006 10:50:57 AM PST by Howlin
On Hardball last night, Chris Matthews said no less than three times that Laura Bush said "God wants New Orleans to be rebuilt."
In the interest of FACTUAL and ACCURATE reporting, here are her EXACT quotes, followed by Matthews' statments.
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"Asked about the comment, Mrs. Bush joked that she didn't really think she could speak for God. Then she added that she believes Nagin wants New Orleans to be rebuilt."
"He wants people who lived in New Orleans to come back," Mrs. Bush said. "I do to, and I know the president does too. You know it's going to take a long time."
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Here are some other sources' inerpretations of what she said:
"He wants people who lived in New Orleans to come back," Mrs. Bush said. "I do to, and I know the president does too. You know its going to take a long time."
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Mrs. Bush, who said her next trip likely will be to New Orleans to visit schools damaged in the hurricane, also reacted to a comment by New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin that stirred controversy. Nagin had said: "This city will be chocolate at the end of the day." He later apologized.
Nagin also said the hurricane that devastated New Orleans was God's way of showing displeasure about U.S. involvement in Iraq. "Surely God is mad at America," Nagin said in a speech Monday. "Surely He's not approving of us being in Iraq under false pretense. But surely He's upset at black America also. We're not taking care of ourselves."
Asked about the comment, Mrs. Bush joked that she didn't really think she could speak for God. Then she added that she believes Nagin wants New Orleans to be rebuilt.
"He wants people who lived in New Orleans to come back," Mrs. Bush said. "I do to, and I know the president does to. You know it's going to take a long time."
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It's all like that; nobody else said the things he said.
***Now, here is the TRANSCRIPT from MSNBC of last night's show (edited by YaYa123):
"MATTHEWS: What did you make of Laura Bush saying, regarding the Mayor Nagin thing of New Orleans, a very famous guy, obviously controversial, because of the way things went down down there.
But Laura Bush saying, No, Nagin was wrong when he said that God, whatever, is mad at blacks. He had a couple of comments which I think are a bit off the wall. But then she came in with one that I think topped him. She said, God wants New Orleans to be rebuilt. How does she know? Why are people talking for a deity? We can argue whether there is a God, but then to be hearing voices. This is the Joan of Arc stuff.
ROGERS: There do appear to be a lot of people hearing divine calling right now. I haven't read what Mrs. Bush said, but I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.
MATTHEWS: She said God wants us to rebuild New Orleans.
ROGERS: Well, maybe he does.
MATTHEWS: Well, sure. Maybe he hasn't give it any thought, I'm not sure. I just don't know, but I wouldn't presume.
ROGERS: I don't want to pick on Mrs. Bush. I don't know what she said. I give her the benefit of the doubt.
MATTHEWS: Well, I just told you what she said. But you can hide behind ignorance.
ROGERS: Ignorance is bliss.
MATTHEWS: I know. I've heard that before.
Dee Dee, what do you make of this godliness on the part of political figures like Nagin, like Robertson talking about how Sharon got sick because he wanted to cut a deal on land and peace? And now the first lady, who everybody likesI like herhas jumped into the thing and she's talking for God now.
MYERS: I certainly don't look to political leaders of either party to interpret God's intentions for me. And I hope most Americansand I don't think most Americans do either.
MATTHEWS: I'd like to know where they were last night, let alone tell me where God is. Just give me the basic informationhow did they vote and how much they collected. And, by the way, who at the White House has been entertaining Jack Abramoff? Is that a fair question?
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(After the segment with Roger Cressey on the Pakistan bombing,which Chris didn't like at all, Chris goes back to Laura bashing: )
"MATTHEWS: Well, mixed bag. Probably most politicians are mixed bags. Most reporters are mixed bags. Most people are. That's fairly safe, isn't it?
He's saying he wants to bring back a chocolate citya clear ethnic
reference, a racial reference if you will, although race means we're all of
the same race.
ALLEN: Well, he presumed to speak for God which, I think, is a mistake for any of us.
MATTHEWS: Well, what about Laura Bush doing the same thing today, saying God wants to rebuild New Orleans.
ALLEN: Today...
MATTHEWS: Or is that just general lunch-time Christianity, just the kind of thing you saywe know God wants us to rebuild our city, we know God roots for our downtown booster club, we know Godthat sort of generalized sort of Kiwanis-type (ph) of religion, you know?
ALLEN: I think a good rule for livingin fact, I just saw this on a billboard the other dayit said If you want to know what God's thinking, stop talking.
And maybe that's a good rule for all of us."
Mrs. Bush should sue for slander if this is true. She wouldn't win, but it sure would be interesting.
Posted on 01/16/2006 5:16:35 PM EST by Neville72
NEW ORLEANS (AP) Mayor Ray Nagin suggested that recent destruction from hurricanes Katrina, Rita and other natural disasters is a sign that "God is mad at America," and also mad at black communities for tearing themselves apart with violence and divisive politics.
"Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it's destroyed and put stress on this country," Nagin said as he and other city leaders commemorated Martin Luther King Day. "Surely he doesn't approve of us being in Iraq under false pretenses. But surely he is upset at black America also. We're not taking care of ourselves."
Joking that he may appear to have "post-Katrina stress disorder," Nagin, who is black, talked of an imaginary conversation with the late civil rights leader. They "talked," he said, while he was thinking Monday about what to say at the ceremony outside City Hall to kick off a walking parade in King's honor.
(Excerpt) Read more at nola.com ...
Good advice for Hissy.
I can't find those words on the net that chrissy spit put in the First Lady's mouth either. Your right, the outright fabrications by the media, creeps like CM needs to stop. We're all sick of it. What gets me even angrier is that the 'real' nonsense that people like Nagin, Hellary et al say, gets less 'exposure' or is softened by the 'fabrications' from the evil Media.
If anybody watched this show, I might care. Crissy ignores the real issue of Nagin's remarks and tries to smear the greatest first lady since Barbara Bush.
I saw this last naight and could believe what Mathews was doing. I read her quotes before watching his show, and I was like "what the hell is he talking about?" It would be funy if she said something in public about him slandering her and demanding that he give a retraction and an apology.
Here's the text of my e-mail to Matthews:
"Chris,
Why are you putting words in the First Lady's mouth? She never said that "God wants New Orleans to be rebuilt".
Mayor Ray Nagin said it. When asked about the comment, Mrs. Bush joked that she didn't really think she could speak for God. Then she added that she believes Nagin wants New Orleans to be rebuilt.
"He wants people who lived in New Orleans to come back," Mrs. Bush said. "I do too, and I know the president does to. You know it's going to take a long time."
Why are you trying to lump Mrs. Bush in with nuts like Robertson? Oh wait, I know why - you hate President Bush, and you can't hide your venom.
Your anti-Bush bias is stunning. "
I'm not going to hold my breath for a reply nor a retraction on Chris's part.
Nagin also said the hurricane that devastated New Orleans was God's way of showing displeasure about U.S. involvement in Iraq. "Surely God is mad at America," Nagin said in a speech Monday. "Surely He's not approving of us being in Iraq under false pretense. But surely He's upset at black America also. We're not taking care of ourselves."
Source: San Diego Union-Tribune
I searched all last night and then this morning. It's just not there -- and you know if she had said that, somebody ELSE would have quoted it.
BUMP!
Fatboy Matthews is an overweight liberal who probably has his nails done weekly. He's a wuss. Ignore the lard heads.
Did he mention anything about "Nestle Nagin?"
I can't find it either. But, I get numerous hits of her criticizing Hillary's "plantation" remarks, and Ray "Schoolbus" Nagin being an a-hole about foreign policy.
There's a good reason why bloggers "in their pajamas" have a bigger impact on the news with those who follow closely, than do "journalists" like Matthews or Rather. It's because the "journalists" are either careless in how they characterize what others say and do (the most generous interpretation of what Matthews did), or, when they are careful, they are often swayed anyway by their inherent left-wing bias (the more likely interpretation). Either way, these "journalists" have lost the right to be trusted on anything by anyone with half a brain. I feel a lot more confident at this point getting my information from FR, Drudge, and all the pajama people out there.
grrr sorry for the typos.. :P
I take it back. I DO care. Cris should get down on his knees and apologise to Laura Bush. No, I am not being sarcastic, this is the First Lady and this is a filthy lie.
Nagin is...like...so yesterday.
Chris Matthews...is...like so out of the loop.
In all seriousness (and without the silly teenager talk), the democratic party is trying desperately to find something, ANYTHING, to promote their message. Ain't happening and it's getting more desperate by the minute.
He IS ignorant.
Need more proof?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1557514/posts
The video link is in #16; it's amazing.
Dan Rather springs to mind. Another BIG LIE was the continued references by many in the MSM that George W. Bush had said (to justify our invasion) that an attack from Iraq was "imminent." Actually, what he did say, in his 2003 State of the Union Address, (link) was: "Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option."
The above is the exact opposite of saying a threat was imminent. He said that we can't afford to wait until the threat becomes imminent.
As a personal matter, I have given up sending my own scathing and informative missives in a vain attempt to persuade liberal friends acquaintances of the truth. I have systematically deleted all the libs from my email contact lists, and have forsaken relationships that go back as far as the third grade, which, in my case, was half a century ago. I have never, ever convinced a liberal to change his position, even when the fact set was totally in my favor. Hey--Rather and Mapes still won't admit that the National Guard documents were forgeries. Ignoring liberals, rather than fighting with them, was the best move I ever made.
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