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Also shows the inadequacy of a culture that celebrates the breakup of the family to deal with the horrific results of the moral breakdown.

How many more times do we have to hear of cases where the "live-in" abuses children fathered by another man?

These men clearly see innocent children as a threat to their manhood, particularly in melting pot cultures.

The real father of this little girl reportedly said he wants to kill his daughter's killer.

And so the cycle of violence continues.

1 posted on 01/14/2006 7:24:36 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

Not that it's relevant, but who in their right mind would name a kid 'Nixzmary'??? Whats next? 'vb;3gqfy,@'??


2 posted on 01/14/2006 7:34:18 AM PST by vikingd00d
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To: Liz

The real father is ALSO not the real father. He met the then pregnant mother in get this a homeless shelter and then want on to father 2 children with her. He has seen none of his children in 5 years including the dead child who's father still remains unknown.

All the supposed extended family coming out of the woodwork smell MONEY, they city is going to be facing a huge payout on this one and these family members who kept silent for all these years are hot on the trail.

What a great legal system we have.......(sarc off)


3 posted on 01/14/2006 7:39:25 AM PST by alisasny (<h3>&quot;Watching Ted Kennedy is a nonintellectual feast.&quot;</h3>)
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To: Liz
Actually a lot of things failed.

This little girl supposedly begged her own Grandmother to take her away before Christmas.

I grew up at a time when there were no real laws to protect children, probably a lot of you did as I am not really all that old. My family was very violently dysfunctional. The police were to our house at least every two weeks for some sort of a disturbance...sometimes more often.

But, one thing I clearly recall was when things were really bad...my aunt or grandmother would 'come get the kids' and we would go stay with them for a bit of time. The laws are different now and I probably would have gone into the system if they were in effect then, but they weren't. So, it was up to other family members to step in. As much as we like to rail about this tragedy...there is much more to blame than just the system.

The grandmother chose to do nothing, the mother chose to stay in this situation. Perhaps some of you will find this harsh, but they knew what was going on and chose to do nothing. As far as I am concerned they are just as guilty in this girls death.

I have to stop writing for now...my tears for this girl are blurring everything.
4 posted on 01/14/2006 7:39:53 AM PST by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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It's too easy to blame childrens' services. Where's the blame for whom actually killed these children?

In a previous life I was a CPS worker. No matter how hard workers try to prevent these things from happening, many times it's not even within their power. CPS can't be there 24/7. CPS can only follow the state regulations and one of those was to keep the family unit together at all costs - um, hello is anyone listening? Then there's the nut job judges and believe me Cashman of Vermont is the norm. I had one judge throw a father in jail because he hadn't paid the state but couldn't have cared less that that wasn't even part of the case and threatened to hold me in contempt because I dared ask him why. Another judge left a toddler in care of her parents (Mexican illegals) who were sexually abusing her with the stipulation they get counseling from the priest who was already in trouble for molesting boys. Another judge gave a boy back to his family (more Mexican illegals) who treated the dog better and didn't question any of the OBVIOUS out right lies the witnesses were telling. And the list goes on.
6 posted on 01/14/2006 7:45:35 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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Of course news of this childs torture and killing is horrible.

The perps deserve our rage - not the mayor (who I do not support politically).

It's the irrational liberal in us that wants to scapegoat.
7 posted on 01/14/2006 7:45:50 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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Sex sells...which is why from the time we are little children
'baby sitter'd' by the tee vee set...our minds are submerged
in 'it'...pre marital extra marital & even same sex these days..

Children cannot escape the brainwashing even in their schools.

Sex, Drugs, Rock n Roll,violence,family breakup is the legacy of our post modern America.

A fact not lost on the pornographers and pedophiles let alone the commies or muzzies.

The heart and soul of America is the traditional Judeo Christian family.

imo
9 posted on 01/14/2006 7:57:30 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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This is what happens when government employment is allowed to become a socialist make-work program. (I'm a government employee, so I know whereof I speak.) Blame CSEA/AFSCME for the girl's death as much as the state agency. "My" union makes it impossible to either reward excellence or punish incompetence in state service. And their outrageous wage demands mean fewer high-paid workers on the job rather than more well-paid workers. More caseworkers might have made it easier to keep track, and saved the girl's life.
And let's not forget that the management of government workers and agencies in NY ranges between benign neglect and thundering incompetence, with generous helpings of corruption.
To kill an innocent child is the most henious crime known to humankind. To kill a killer in defense of the innocent is the noble and sacred work of the Warrior.


12 posted on 01/14/2006 8:36:30 AM PST by Ostlandr (A man will walk with a dog where he fears to tread alone.)
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To: Liz

The Post should be careful what they ask for. Child Services occasionally errs, because to err is human, and this is a government bureaucracy.

But on the whole, if you have to screw up, it's better to screw up by leaving kids with their families than to run around taking kids away from their families at the least excuse.

This happens about every decade or so. Some poor little kids suffers from family abuse, the media publicize it, and for the next three or four years they take numerous kids away from their parents on the basis of false testimony or trivial incidents like spanking a misbehaving kid in the supermarket.

Be careful what you ask for.


14 posted on 01/14/2006 8:47:34 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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. . . a perfect neck to start with might be that of John Mattingly, who runs the Administration for Children's Services, the agency that failed the girl.

What the heck is this guy doing in the Administration for Children's Services? . . .

Oh, wait a minute . . . that's Don Mattingly, not John Mattingly. Never mind.

16 posted on 01/14/2006 10:00:23 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Said the night wind to the little lamb . . . "Do you see what I see?")
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This story just makes me heart cry. There can be nothing to do to this guy that would make it seem like justice was served.


22 posted on 01/14/2006 7:47:17 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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If the press and Mr. Bloomberg so desired we could have two such cases a month on the front pages of the tabloids. If John Mattingly's head should roll as the Post screams, what of Nicholas Scopetta? How many children died in ACS care or under ACS investigation during Giuliani's term in office?

PRESS RELEASEState child fatality reports show continuing failure of child welfare agency to learn from mistakes and of state to require changes.

From Gotham Gazette during Giuliani time no, not the Daily News, not The New York Post, not any big media, because teflon was in effect>


See past monthly updates for Children.
by Caroline HowardGuest Reporter
Children's Services
The agency whose job it is to keep the city's children safe, the Administration for Children's Services, is now a permanent agency, thanks to a charter proposal that the voters passed in November, after a six-year separation from the Human Resources Administration. But Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta, widely hailed as the mastermind behind the agency's reinvention, is stepping down and his replacement has yet to be announced. At the same time, as if to mock all their best intentions, tragically, at least six children under the age of seven have died recently, allegedly at the hands of their abusive parents.The list is a heartbreaking reminder of the agency's grave responsibility: Inez Bennett, 7, found dead in her family's Bronx apartment with a smashed jaw and hot water burns, cuts and bruises covering her body; Signifagance Oliver, 4, drowned in the bathtub by her mother in an exorcism ritual; Sylena Herrnkind, 3, beaten to death by her mother in the Staten Island home she shared with four siblings; Sidney Achan, 2, who died from multiple skull fractures and brain injuries; and Kyron Hamilton, 15 months, beaten to death by his mother who said the baby was bothering her while she watched television. A Brooklyn man was charged with second-degree murder in the death of De Andrew Monroe, the 15-month-old son of his girlfriend. According to police, the baby was shaken to death because he would not stop crying.
If the Administration for Children's Services is......


You won't remember any uproar in the press at that time because there was none.
24 posted on 01/18/2006 4:24:31 AM PST by ecsredeye
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Administrations for Child Services are way too flexible with how the cases are reviewed. People who are being accused of child abuse should not be given notice that a social worker is coming to visit, that in turn gives the abuser time to brainwash the kid into lying, or threatening the child if he or she speaks of abuse when the social worker exits the premises the child will pay severely. I am a product of an abusive step parent. I lived through the social worker interviews, I was told if you say anything your brother’s ands sister will get hurt that you. Way to often a child fears for their siblings, or the other parent in which is not involved in the abusing. There has to be a better way to prevent this from occurring and better ways for children to feel comfortable around people such as ACS workers. Abuse changes at a rapid pace; they should be trained to look at different aspects of the child’s life.


26 posted on 01/18/2006 6:34:15 PM PST by caringperson
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To: Liz

Administrations for Child Services are way too flexible with how the cases are reviewed. People who are being accused of child abuse should not be given notice that a social worker is coming to visit, that in turn gives the abuser time to brainwash the kid into lying, or threatening the child if he or she speaks of abuse when the social worker exits the premises the child will pay severely. I am a product of an abusive step parent. I lived through the social worker interviews, I was told if you say anything your brother’s ands sister will get hurt that you. Way to often a child fears for their siblings, or the other parent in which is not involved in the abusing. There has to be a better way to prevent this from occurring and better ways for children to feel comfortable around people such as ACS workers. Abuse changes at a rapid pace; they should be trained to look at different aspects of the child’s life.


27 posted on 01/18/2006 6:34:18 PM PST by caringperson
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