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Posted on 01/12/2006 5:29:53 PM PST by Phil Southern

Hello fellow Freepers,

I always note the fact that the posters here generally respond with candor I can appreciate even though I may not always agree. That is why I am asking for advice in dealing with what could be a serious, saddening problem of which I have been made aware.

Today, when I picked up my son from daycare, the daycare worker pulled me aside and informed me that other children at the daycare came to her to say that the driver of the bus they ride (from school to daycare in the afternoon), has been mean and rude to my son. Specific statements were "yelling" ,"yelling shut-up", and possibly other things. The children who came forward are "4th or 5th" graders. I asked her if other kids confirmed the information, and she said that more than one other student did confirm, with some saying the actions happen "some of the time", and others saying "all the time".

A bit of background is necessary. My son is high-function disabled. He has a mild case of CP; he walks on his own with a pronounced limp (no aids). He has severe-profound hearing loss and wears hearing aids. He actually hears about as good as your grandmother/grandfather who is tone deaf.....but his disadvantage is he never heard well to begin with. He is a "good" boy, but can be loud at times. He is almost universally responsive and respectful of authority....but has a short attention span. In short I do think he is a good bus rider, and sometimes needs admonition. My son is 7 years old and is in regular kindergarten with a tutor/aide (Your tax dollars at work, with my thanks).

I have history with this bus driver. Last year, **2** days before the end of school, Joe first rode the same bus to daycare in the afternoon (as a test to see how he faired at the daycare where he would go during the summer). On the second day the driver in question approached my son's aide to say that my son could not ride the bus because he yelled, and would not stay seated. I promptly approached the school system contact I knew and it was arranged for my son to ride a different bus......and I was told that the bus driver in question had been reassigned before, and had trouble when he was the driver of the "special-education" bus (AKA "the short-bus"---no offense meant or taken---we do appreciate good and bad humor). I was assured at the time that he would not be riding with the same driver again this year......but nothing I know about was ever said or done other than reassign my child to a different bus. Also, I was told there is even an assistant on the bus, purpose unknown(not specifically for my son, anyway). This particular bus is not a "short-bus". There have also been instances lately of my child not wanting to ride the bus, or asking to ride a different bus....which until now I had attributed to other things.

My questions.......how far should I take this? My first instinct is that my son can be intimidating, but is a good traveler and respects authority. I told myself last year that a bus driver should not driving a bus full of kids if they couldn't deal with kids. I'm incensed on several different levels.....but I also don't want to be "over-protective" or heedless of the needs of others. I also know that my son, at this point, is TOTALLY innocent, not hateful, not mean, and only expects kindness and smiles from ALL adults. If any of you freepers want to see a picture of us....contact me privately.

I am in need of advice, and will answer any questions if there is something unclear. Thanks in advance,
Phil


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: cp; disabled; hearingaids; rude; school; unprofessional
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1 posted on 01/12/2006 5:29:54 PM PST by Phil Southern
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To: Phil Southern
Someone needs to explain to the bus driver what's going on with your son. This person may not know.

If the situation doesn't improve, I would talk to the principle at the school.

2 posted on 01/12/2006 5:33:23 PM PST by Reactionary (Liberals and Stalinists: The Rhetoric is the Same)
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To: Phil Southern

I'm assuming that you do not have the means to take him to and from school yourself, but have you looked into a private bus service?

Or maybe a non-working family friend?


3 posted on 01/12/2006 5:33:36 PM PST by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Phil Southern

Read her the "Riot Act". Tell her it will be her job if she keeps it up. Just one more time...


4 posted on 01/12/2006 5:34:58 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: Phil Southern
You say this: My first instinct is that my son can be intimidating

The driver says he yells and won't be seated. Is that accurate?

If so, then it would seem your son's behavior is an issue that needs to be addressed at one level or another.

5 posted on 01/12/2006 5:35:58 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Phil Southern

Aside from talking to the bus driver and the principal (the principal is your "pal") ...uh...you might begin to let your own son know that his own hearing difficulties lead to him speaking loudly in certain environments. My guess is a combination of all three would do the trick.


6 posted on 01/12/2006 5:36:12 PM PST by irish guard
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To: Phil Southern

If this is a 2 parent family, Do you and spouse both work and use this as an excuse for sending this poor child to daycare?


7 posted on 01/12/2006 5:37:32 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the back, or a Fool from any side.”)
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To: Phil Southern

Talk it over with the principal and ask if it is possible to have an older child sit with your son as a peer mentor, kind of like a social behavior tutor. It could be treated as an honor to the kid selected.


8 posted on 01/12/2006 5:38:06 PM PST by Eva
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To: Reactionary

You are your son's champion. You are his protection against all things bad. It's your job to streighten this out by whatever means you need to employ. Too bad if they don't like you. It's your job. No one else will do it for your son with the same absolute concern for his benefit as will you.

Sometimes cubs NEED mama tigers.

(The guys a jerk!)


9 posted on 01/12/2006 5:38:15 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Phil Southern

My gut reaction is that if other kids are reporting it to the point that the daycare worker takes it seriously rather than brushing it off as "just kids" then there is a serious problem with the driver.

The driver's behavior is obviously disturbing the other kids enough that they are trying to get help.

Does the driver work for the school or a bus company that contracts with the school? I think you need to make a complaint about the issue, especially since the driver has "history".


10 posted on 01/12/2006 5:38:57 PM PST by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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To: Phil Southern

Even if the bus driver's expectations are unreasonable, it's not safe for anyone on the bus for there to be conflict between the driver and a passenger. The driver needs to be concentrating on driving!

If a discussion/explanation with the bus driver doesn't resolve the issues, then I would look into another form of transportation, for the safety of all involved.

Another possibility would be to ask for a monitor or assistant for your son on the bus, if he's really having problems behaving appropriately. Maybe an older student who's travelling the same route would volunteer to be your son's "buddy" and encourage him in good behavior.


11 posted on 01/12/2006 5:39:28 PM PST by Tax-chick (D-minus-12.)
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To: bannie
He may or not be a jerk. School buses are very noisy, anyway. For a kind who can't hear very well, I'm sure the only way he can hear himself is to be loud.

Being a "mamma tiger" is fine is the situation warrants it.

12 posted on 01/12/2006 5:40:36 PM PST by Reactionary (Liberals and Stalinists: The Rhetoric is the Same)
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To: Phil Southern
Request a meeting at the school and if he has an IEP, which I assume he does, ask to have an aide ride with him to help model appropriate behavior and to access the situation.

If he is speaking with a loud voice, the driver is right to be concerned. However, yelling at your son is unnecessary and unsafe.

13 posted on 01/12/2006 5:43:11 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: Phil Southern
It is a tough dilemma. If your son is hard to handle on the bus he may need a monitor for everyone's safety. What has me concerned is that children came forward with mean spirited behavior on the drivers part. It makes me wonder if he just isn't cut out to deal with a lot of children.
14 posted on 01/12/2006 5:43:41 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Reactionary

The little guy's relatively helpless; and it sounds like the guy's taking advantage of the condition.


15 posted on 01/12/2006 5:43:48 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Phil Southern

"I was told that the bus driver in question had been reassigned before, and had trouble when he was the driver of the "special-education" bus"

The bus driver is a known problem. Report him.


16 posted on 01/12/2006 5:44:35 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Phil Southern

Does your school district equip the busses with cameras? Perhaps there is a way that you and the school administration could review the tapes?


17 posted on 01/12/2006 5:45:38 PM PST by 31R1O ("Everything with God and nothing without him")
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To: Phil Southern

I have seen disabled, (as well as abled) children get out of control or difficult on the ride home. It's been a long day and the revved up bus kids wind each other up. It may be too much for your son.


18 posted on 01/12/2006 5:45:41 PM PST by Chickensoup (The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
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To: Phil Southern
Most school buses nowdays have cameras.

Ask to see the video of your son's and the bus drivers behavior. You'll be better able to judge the situation after seeing it for yourself.

Schools, like other bureaucracies, have a particular food chain. I don't know from your post, but if you've been dealing with the principal or the school, you're spinning your wheels.

Bus drivers are not under the school, but the transportation department and the district.

Call the Head of the transportation department and discuss it with him/her.

If that doesn't work, contact the Superintendent of the district.

19 posted on 01/12/2006 5:47:52 PM PST by MamaTexan ( I am NOT a 'legal entity', NOR am I a *person* as created by law!)
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To: Phil Southern
place a direct call to the director of transportation; superintendent would do also. be polite, but firm; you understand that not everyone is meant to deal with kids with cp, but if this person is going to be a representative of the school, he needs to behave appropriately toward children with special circumstances.

politely explain if this matter is not handled promptly and to your satisfaction, you will approach the board, perhaps even going further, if necessary.

there is no need to tolerate this moronic behavior. the driver needs to be replaced; perhaps night custodial work will do.

20 posted on 01/12/2006 5:48:09 PM PST by wildwood
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