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1 posted on 01/12/2006 5:29:54 PM PST by Phil Southern
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Someone needs to explain to the bus driver what's going on with your son. This person may not know.

If the situation doesn't improve, I would talk to the principle at the school.

2 posted on 01/12/2006 5:33:23 PM PST by Reactionary (Liberals and Stalinists: The Rhetoric is the Same)
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I'm assuming that you do not have the means to take him to and from school yourself, but have you looked into a private bus service?

Or maybe a non-working family friend?


3 posted on 01/12/2006 5:33:36 PM PST by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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Read her the "Riot Act". Tell her it will be her job if she keeps it up. Just one more time...


4 posted on 01/12/2006 5:34:58 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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You say this: My first instinct is that my son can be intimidating

The driver says he yells and won't be seated. Is that accurate?

If so, then it would seem your son's behavior is an issue that needs to be addressed at one level or another.

5 posted on 01/12/2006 5:35:58 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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Aside from talking to the bus driver and the principal (the principal is your "pal") ...uh...you might begin to let your own son know that his own hearing difficulties lead to him speaking loudly in certain environments. My guess is a combination of all three would do the trick.


6 posted on 01/12/2006 5:36:12 PM PST by irish guard
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If this is a 2 parent family, Do you and spouse both work and use this as an excuse for sending this poor child to daycare?


7 posted on 01/12/2006 5:37:32 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the back, or a Fool from any side.”)
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Talk it over with the principal and ask if it is possible to have an older child sit with your son as a peer mentor, kind of like a social behavior tutor. It could be treated as an honor to the kid selected.


8 posted on 01/12/2006 5:38:06 PM PST by Eva
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My gut reaction is that if other kids are reporting it to the point that the daycare worker takes it seriously rather than brushing it off as "just kids" then there is a serious problem with the driver.

The driver's behavior is obviously disturbing the other kids enough that they are trying to get help.

Does the driver work for the school or a bus company that contracts with the school? I think you need to make a complaint about the issue, especially since the driver has "history".


10 posted on 01/12/2006 5:38:57 PM PST by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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Even if the bus driver's expectations are unreasonable, it's not safe for anyone on the bus for there to be conflict between the driver and a passenger. The driver needs to be concentrating on driving!

If a discussion/explanation with the bus driver doesn't resolve the issues, then I would look into another form of transportation, for the safety of all involved.

Another possibility would be to ask for a monitor or assistant for your son on the bus, if he's really having problems behaving appropriately. Maybe an older student who's travelling the same route would volunteer to be your son's "buddy" and encourage him in good behavior.


11 posted on 01/12/2006 5:39:28 PM PST by Tax-chick (D-minus-12.)
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Request a meeting at the school and if he has an IEP, which I assume he does, ask to have an aide ride with him to help model appropriate behavior and to access the situation.

If he is speaking with a loud voice, the driver is right to be concerned. However, yelling at your son is unnecessary and unsafe.

13 posted on 01/12/2006 5:43:11 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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It is a tough dilemma. If your son is hard to handle on the bus he may need a monitor for everyone's safety. What has me concerned is that children came forward with mean spirited behavior on the drivers part. It makes me wonder if he just isn't cut out to deal with a lot of children.
14 posted on 01/12/2006 5:43:41 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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"I was told that the bus driver in question had been reassigned before, and had trouble when he was the driver of the "special-education" bus"

The bus driver is a known problem. Report him.


16 posted on 01/12/2006 5:44:35 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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Does your school district equip the busses with cameras? Perhaps there is a way that you and the school administration could review the tapes?


17 posted on 01/12/2006 5:45:38 PM PST by 31R1O ("Everything with God and nothing without him")
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I have seen disabled, (as well as abled) children get out of control or difficult on the ride home. It's been a long day and the revved up bus kids wind each other up. It may be too much for your son.


18 posted on 01/12/2006 5:45:41 PM PST by Chickensoup (The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
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Most school buses nowdays have cameras.

Ask to see the video of your son's and the bus drivers behavior. You'll be better able to judge the situation after seeing it for yourself.

Schools, like other bureaucracies, have a particular food chain. I don't know from your post, but if you've been dealing with the principal or the school, you're spinning your wheels.

Bus drivers are not under the school, but the transportation department and the district.

Call the Head of the transportation department and discuss it with him/her.

If that doesn't work, contact the Superintendent of the district.

19 posted on 01/12/2006 5:47:52 PM PST by MamaTexan ( I am NOT a 'legal entity', NOR am I a *person* as created by law!)
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place a direct call to the director of transportation; superintendent would do also. be polite, but firm; you understand that not everyone is meant to deal with kids with cp, but if this person is going to be a representative of the school, he needs to behave appropriately toward children with special circumstances.

politely explain if this matter is not handled promptly and to your satisfaction, you will approach the board, perhaps even going further, if necessary.

there is no need to tolerate this moronic behavior. the driver needs to be replaced; perhaps night custodial work will do.

20 posted on 01/12/2006 5:48:09 PM PST by wildwood
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I would simply approach the bus driver and say "I understand you're having some problems with my son, can I help?"....then just sit and listen and pay close attention. Listen for any hint of frustration, then offer ways of how to deal with your son more productively. The driver may need to be educated on how to deal with him. If he/she knows they can come to you with "complaints" it may help to take the heat off your son.
21 posted on 01/12/2006 5:48:49 PM PST by Taggart_D
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1st. Get in the bus driver hard and fast. Inform him of your sons situation and also of his responsibilities to you, your son, the rest of the kids, etc.

2nd. Personally visit the head of the transportation dept (the bus drivers boss) and inform him of the situation and that your next visit of the day is with the superintendant of the schools (his boss).

3rd. Visit the superintendant and bring him up to speed on whats goin on. Ask for a copy of the districts policy regarding school bus drivers interaction with students and also the policy on handicaped students and special needs. (this is your amunition. If they aredoing something they are not supposed to do or vice-versa you can kill them with their own regulations) Let him know that you want to see this thing straightened out in the easiest way possible but that you also want on the agenda for the next school board meeting and run through it all with the school board again asking them for their advice on how things can be made right for your son and possible any other children that this driver may be taking advantage of. (...after all you really dont want to get a lawyer and seek a legal fix to something that should be being handeled at a lower level...this is a threat to them but dont make it if you arent willing to follow thru with it. the schools have a lawyer on retainer for stuff like this but if you are in the right, YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT, and they know it and will respond.

...and be ready to be branded as a troublemaker and wear it with pride because you are doing what needs to be done to insure your sons continuing education and safety.


23 posted on 01/12/2006 5:50:37 PM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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Personally I would find another method of transportation. You should have been told by the bus driver, bus company, or the school about any incidents.

Your descriptions sounds like it was other students on the bus that told the daycare person who then told you about it.

Also it does not sound like your child could describe to you what took place, only he did not want to ride the bus.

Bus drivers are not exactly positions held by highly skilled trained people, nothing against them, as I personally would not want to have to drive a bus load of kids of any age anywhere.



24 posted on 01/12/2006 5:51:26 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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I am usually the last person to say the adult is wrong, but the adult is wrong. If he is constantly yelling, then he has lost control of the situation. As such he is a danger to all of the kids on the bus, not just your son.

If he is so distracted by your son and cannot keep control then other arrangements need to be made to protect your son and the other children on the bus.

You should call for an immediate meeting with the principal to discuss the situation and you should not let your son ride that bus until the problem is resolved with a new plan.
25 posted on 01/12/2006 5:51:53 PM PST by Raycpa
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