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Broken Ice Dam Blamed For 300-Year Chill
New Scientist ^ | 1-10-2006 | Kurt Kleiner

Posted on 01/10/2006 2:47:01 PM PST by blam

Broken ice dam blamed for 300-year chill

14:21 10 January 2006
NewScientist.com news service
Kurt Kleiner

A three-century-long cold spell that chilled Europe 8200 years ago was probably caused by the bursting of a Canadian ice dam, which released a colossal flood of glacial meltwater into the Atlantic Ocean.

Two new papers, using different computer models, show that the massive freshwater flood accounts for evidence of the sudden climate change, which cooled Greenland by an average of 7.4°C, and Europe by about 1°C. It was the most abrupt and widespread cool spell in the last 10,000 years.

Evidence for the cooling has been found in ice core samples, preserved pollen, evidence of shifting lake levels and ocean sediment. Some researchers think the cooling might have been caused by normal fluctuations in solar radiation.

In 1999 Don Barber, a geologist now at Bryn Mawr College in Pennsylvania, US, and colleagues suggested that the cooling was caused by flooding by glacial meltwater. Geological evidence shows that by about 11,000 years ago, retreating glaciers had left two huge freshwater lakes sprawling over Central Canada and parts of the northern US, bigger than all of today's Great Lakes combined.

Eventually, the lakes broke through an ice sheet that served as a dam and drained into Hudson Bay, and from there into the North Atlantic (Nature, vol 400, p 344).

Barber's idea was that the influx of fresh water changed salinity levels in the North Atlantic, and disrupted the thermohaline circulation – the currents that bring warm southern water north, helping to warm Europe and the Arctic regions.

"Strong confirmation"

In the new papers, one in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences and the other in the current Quaternary Science Reviews, two teams of researchers using different computer models say that both models show that such a freshwater flood could shut down ocean circulation in a way that is consistent with temperature data from the time.

"We've shown the hypothesis generates the climate change that generates the data. It makes the story of the 8200-year event a much more well-rounded story," says Gavin Schmidt, a climatologist at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York City, US, a co-author of the PNAS paper.

"I would say it's a pretty strong confirmation of our understanding of that event," says Barber.

The work could have implications for the modern climate. Some researchers suggest that global warming and glacial melting might one day change ocean salinity enough to cause a similar disruption in ocean currents.

Journal references: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (DOI: 10.1073/pnas.0510095103), Quaternary Science Reviews (vol 25, p 63)


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KEYWORDS: 300; blamed; broken; catastrophism; chill; crevolist; dams; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; ice; justdam; justdamn; paleoclimatology; year
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To: djf
I just found a slate panel in a skid that has what appears to be a giant piece of elodia fossilized in in.

I took it home, it is beautiful.

My wife thinks I am a nutter.
61 posted on 01/10/2006 4:45:50 PM PST by mmercier (same as it ever was)
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To: xcamel
Ice Age Glacial Lakes
62 posted on 01/10/2006 4:47:43 PM PST by blam
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To: mtbopfuyn

Better white wine.


63 posted on 01/10/2006 4:50:17 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: mmercier

Cool.

There's a place near me in Wash state (near Black Diamond) that has alot of sandstone with fossilized maple leaf impressions.

Maybe I'll get ambitious one of these days and go get some.


64 posted on 01/10/2006 4:54:24 PM PST by djf (Bush wants to make Iraq like America. Solution: Send all illegal immigrants to Iraq!)
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To: blam
"Some researchers suggest that global warming and glacial melting might one day change ocean salinity enough to cause a similar disruption in ocean currents."

How is that a model that shows that global warming caused global cooling is proof that humans are now causing global warming?

65 posted on 01/10/2006 4:55:34 PM PST by norwaypinesavage
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To: blam

um.. no kidding...


66 posted on 01/10/2006 5:06:49 PM PST by xcamel (Exposing clandestine operations is treason. 13 knots make a noose.)
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To: RightWhale

These lakes were held in place by ice?


67 posted on 01/10/2006 5:18:26 PM PST by Chickensoup (The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

What is that picture?


68 posted on 01/10/2006 5:20:42 PM PST by Chickensoup (The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
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To: Supernatural

Yeah, kinda like evolution.


69 posted on 01/10/2006 5:21:52 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: null and void
I admit I didn't know that. Thanks. When I think of ice age I imagine a climate where it is very cold year around. I assume that would be wrong - lol.
70 posted on 01/10/2006 5:26:03 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Mike Darancette

How "sudden" is sudden?


71 posted on 01/10/2006 5:27:17 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: blam

Just Dam(n).


72 posted on 01/10/2006 5:28:12 PM PST by Clemenza (Smartest words ever written by a Communist: "Show me the way to the next Whiskey Bar")
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To: blam

I like comets.

Scientists at Cardiff University, UK, believe they have discovered the cause of crop failures and summer frosts some 1,500 years ago. The answer? A comet colliding with Earth.

http://www.50connect.co.uk/index.asp?main=http%3A//www.50connect.co.uk/50c/articlePages/genealogy_index.asp%3Fsc%3Dhist%26aID%3D9555


73 posted on 01/10/2006 5:40:09 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: xcamel
Large rocks the size of Volkswagens

I believe the scientific term is ">1 VU rocks"
(VU - Volkswagen units)

74 posted on 01/10/2006 5:55:31 PM PST by Freedom_Fighter_2001 (When money is no object - it's your money they're talking about)
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To: blam
Wait-so, many thousands of years ago there was this global cooling that caused an devastating ice age, and then there was this global warming broke up all that ice, and there was this catastrophe that caused global cooling again, and then it warmed up again, and...and...this teaches us what about extreme and potentially devastating global weather cycles? That they are natural? That they are somewhat self-correcting?
In the words of Vinnie Barbarino, "I'm so confused!!!"
Or maybe it's as Horshack said: "What is, is. What was, will be. What will be was, but will be again."
Deep thoughts...
75 posted on 01/10/2006 6:00:21 PM PST by Nevermore
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To: djf

In upper Manhattan there's exposed mica schist also with the glacial striations.


76 posted on 01/10/2006 6:01:45 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: razorback-bert
"I like comets."

I do too.

Professor Stephen Oppenheimer believes it was a comet impact that began the end of the last Ice Age.

77 posted on 01/10/2006 6:29:35 PM PST by blam
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To: Chickensoup
A frozen Klingon from "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country" of course.

78 posted on 01/10/2006 6:43:37 PM PST by whd23
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To: blam

I broke the dam.


79 posted on 01/10/2006 6:46:22 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Cicero

"We coulda had a V8!"

80 posted on 01/10/2006 7:08:57 PM PST by Noumenon (Liberal activist judges - out of touch, out of tune, but not out of reach.)
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