Raising the volume on what men think about feminism

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[John O]

I can't tell you how wrong you are. My wife was 30 when we married, and the last 15 years have simply rocked. Shelf life my ass.

Let me explain more clearly then. If a man desires to have chidlren (as I do) then the upper limit cutoff for potential mates is about 35. Child bearing gets much more risky after that with greater incidence of birth defects etc.

I am sure that someone who has all the kids they want would be thrilled with the right older woman (as you are) but most men looking to marry are looking for family and children.

That's why the women in the 30 to 40 age range are getting so desparate. Men in the 30 to 40 age range can easily marry someone in the 20 to 30 range who still has plenty of child bearing years left. So younger wins out.

Increasingly rare is the woman who can have both a career and a family as most men want wives and mothers for their children, not business partners.

[phil1750]

Ten reasons men prefer guns over women...


#10. You can trade an old 44 for a new 22.

#9. You can keep one gun at home and have another
for when you're on the road.

#8. If you admire a friend's gun and tell him so, he will
probably let you try it out a few times.

#7. Your primary gun doesn't mind if you keep another
gun for a backup.

#6. Your gun will stay with you even if you run out of ammo.

#5. A gun doesn't take up a lot of closet space.

#4. Guns function normally every day of the month.

#3. A gun doesn't ask, "Do these new grips make me look fat?"

#2. A gun doesn't mind if you go to sleep after you use it.

And the number one reason a gun is favored over a woman....

#1. YOU CAN BUY A SILENCER!!

[TC Rider]

Someone tastes like raw fish?

[luckystarmom]

I wanted to get married straight out of college. I just wanted to get my degree and get married. I had one boyfriend propose to me when we were juniors. I told him that we should wait for an engagement until we knew when we were going to graduate. We had both switched majors, and we were going to take longer than 4 years to graduate.

Thank God, I didn't accept the engagement. Over the summer, he decided he didn't want to date an old 22 year old. He wanted to date an incoming 18 year old freshman.

After that, if men found out that I was interested in marriage, they backed off. If I even mentioned that I wanted to get married and have kids, then I was shunned. Most of the men in their 20s didn't want to have anything to do with marriage.

Thank God, I finally met my husband in my late 20s. He wanted a nice conservative woman. He didn't care that I had worked longer than him, and that I made more money than him. He treated me with lots of respect, and we've been married for 15 years.

I just worry now about my nieces that are in their 20s. One of them has been out of college for 2 years, and she has to work a lot to pay for rent of her apartment and other necessities. The other one is about to graduate.

Men in their twenties need to step up the plate and start having real meaningful relationships with women in the 20s. Then they can get married and have babies.

[Lucky Dog]

But that is another issue.

Actually, isn’t really another issue. It is “part and parcel” of the same issue.

In my rather long, previous rant, I had stated: “…the fact that militant feminists demand that requirement-justified and objectively verifiable, physical standards for some jobs be lowered or eliminated…” In my estimate, the majority of the career fields in military that feminists have demanded be opened to women are so opened at the expense of losing valuable capability in that career field or of unacceptably increase risk to the female occupants of those career fields and/or decreased unit morale, cohesion and effectiveness.

Unfortunately, the proverbial “train has already left the station” on this issue. Consequently, I fear that there will eventually be a terrible price paid in both “blood and treasure” for this asinine bit of politically correct, militant feminism.

[antceecee]

" The fact is that men and women need each other and are incomplete without each other."

Very beautifully said.

[RinaseaofDs]

Feminism is kinda cute, economically.

Ford tried something like this in the 1980's: "We're crap, but we're American - so buy us."

We, of course, did nothing of the sort. We looked overseas to customers willing to put a good product on the showfloor.

Feminism is the same type of marketing. They're the same suppliers courting the exact same customers, but are so contemptuous of the buyer that they have quit trying.

Better to do your thing, move to Costa Rica, and settle down with people free from all of the popular, anti-White, anti-Male, anti-American biases. Australia's pretty great too. Women there are lovely and happy to be happy - just happy sharing life with somebody. Amazing people, them.

Women are too lazy to look overseas, and men there are looking to rent, not own.

[luckystarmom]

Equality means that you share the responsibilities equally. It means that you may change the tires while your wife cooks the dinners. It doesn't mean that you sit there on the sofa with the remote control while your wife cooks, cleans, takes care of the kids,and does the laundry (all at the same time).

[RinaseaofDs]

brilliant.

[John O]

If this is not women bashing, objectifying and hatred, then what is it?

Truth.

Sometimes the truth is not pleasant for some people. Please see my prior post to melas defining shelf life a little better.

I tend to be a traditionalist. I am looking for a wife who will be my love, my partner in the home, the mother of my children. I am not looking for another wage earner (that's my job) or for someone whose 'career' comes before me and the kids. I intend to treat her like a queen (as I did my late wife) and expect her to treat me like a king.

[winner3000]

Globalization is going to be the downfall of extreme feminism. More and more American men will choose to marry women from traditional values countries. Darwin will win again as shrill feminists will not propagate their caustic genes.

[luckystarmom]

You won't get married either to a nice conservative woman with that kind of behavior.

My husband told me that he knew I was the girl for him on our first date. This is the reason. He opened the car door for me. Instead of just sitting there, I leaned over and unlocked the door for him. He was nice to me, and I was nice to him.

We've been married for almost 15 years. He was talking the other day that maybe we should have another marriage ceremony with our kids. I said I would love to have one on the beach in Hawaii with just us and our kids. It would be lovely.

[HairOfTheDog]

A feminist has come to common terms with nothing other than an unrealistic set of expectations

So they have become the sort of person who looks for brides overseas ;~D

I'll agree that feminism has lost its way, much in the same way that other minority rights activists have lost their way. They both fought a real demon once, but they are unwilling to admit the ground that needed to be won has been won, and they should now go home. They now continue to prolong and in some cases invent new controversies to stay relevant. They are having a hard time finding troops who will buy into their new goals.

My concern is that as long as the feminist movement exists, there will be a counter movement among FReeper men that is equally and oppositely destructive to our political goals because it drives women away. We are a party that has respect for Laura Bush, Ann Coulter and Condi Rice, three very different women who each have a place at our table, each according to their own merit. Women are necessary and the anger and unrealistic expectations of some are limiting our cause.

[luckystarmom]

My brother was the one of my siblings who got married the youngest and had kids the youngest. He had kids in his early twenties. However, he won't be a granddad because he died of cancer.

My parents had me when they were in their 30s, and they're still alive enjoying my kids.

Having kids early does not mean you'll be a grandparent.

[texan75010]

As a man who is about to marry for the second time, both my ex and my current wife-to-be are over 40. Both have kept themselves in shape and are attractive. As a man, it was the outward appearance of both of these women that initially attracted me. Both of them were seeking someone who made them feel secure and outward appearance meant little to them (thank God!)

Men want looks, women want security. Thus Anna Nicole marries a geezer.

Call me a hater or basher, but a slim figure and attractive face is what does it for me. I don't care if she flips burgers at Sonic. If a woman has doubled her body weight since her 20th birthday, cut her hair shorter than mine and has a uni-brow, I simply do not wish to engage in an intimate relationship with her.

Because of that, I am an objectifying pig. OK, fine. Blame your lack of personal self control and lack of femininity on me all you want...but it still wont get you a date.

Is it any wonder why most feminists are fat ugly women who find it easier to hate and be bitter than to make themselves attractive for men?

If I had no job and lived with my mom would I be right to be bitter towards women because they wouldn't date a loser like that? Isn't that a bit of a double standard?

[John O]

She says that any 20 year old claims that she's dating a 40 year old for any reason other than security is a liar.

And since security and being a good provider for the children is one of the things that women have traditionally looked for in a husband that's a good thing. If it wasn't no engineer would ever get married. (We make lousy boyfriends but great husbands)

[sauropod]

Second, they felt they were victims too, but women didn't listen to them.

Oh, great. Everybody's a victim.

Perhaps it is governments that are not listening to men, rather than women.

Perhaps it is women obsessing about womyn.

My response? Get over it. If you're a man and you have an opinion, speak out.

Ok. You are a brainless gynocratic twit that thinks entirely too much of your gender. How's that?

[NathanR]

Of course not! Nothing is certain in this life. However, the earlier you start, the greater the chance you will be able to enjoy your grandkids.

[HairOfTheDog]

I love it when people use anonymous forums to say all the things good manners and normal polite decency should tell him to keep to himself.

[luckystarmom]

Where does personality and brains fit into all of this?

I understand dating someone that is cute, but I don't understand marrying someone just because of their looks.

I dated lots of good looking men (some better looking than my husband was). However, I married a man that had something more.

I know my husband dated plenty of attractive women, but he says they were too liberal for him. He married me because I was conservative and smart.