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Captain's tirade left submariner in tears
The Scotsman ^ | 1/9/6 | BEN MITCHELL

Posted on 01/09/2006 9:16:40 PM PST by SmithL

A SUBMARINE captain berated his subordinates with such rage that his face became "gorged" with blood and his tirades made a lieutenant ill and reduced him to tears, a court martial heard yesterday.

The case, being heard at Portsmouth Naval Base, relates to Capt Robert Tarrant's period of command of the nuclear-powered Trafalgar-class submarine HMS Talent, based at Devonport.

Judge advocate Jack Bayliss ruled that a substantial part of the case is to be heard in secret because the evidence is likely to include information relevant to national security.

Commander Alison Towler, prosecuting, said Capt Tarrant's behaviour towards his subordinates could not be excused by the stress of being involved in top-secret missions.

Cmdr Towler said that Capt Tarrant would embark on a "ritual" of shouting and abuse, sometimes personal, which was disproportionate to the complaint and would often leave the crew member in tears and afraid of him.

She said: "The prosecution accepts a commanding officer has the right to admonish his subordinates and an operation may require forcible and immediate action which leaves no room for tact.

"However, the prosecution says Captain Tarrant's conduct was unwarranted and far beyond robust leadership and management."

Cmdr Towler said Capt Tarrant's conduct towards his crew would remain civil and appropriate while in dock, but within days of being at sea or on operation he would become increasingly abusive.

The first of five charges, which all date back to between February 1998 and July 1999, involves Lieutenant Ryan Ramsey, who claims the constant "tirades" made him physically sick when he had to begin his shift and led to his becoming withdrawn and losing weight.

Cmdr Towler said that Lt Ramsey claims Capt Tarrant would shout at him for up to 20 minutes with his face only 5cm away from his own.

She added: "Lt Ramsey felt scared of Captain Tarrant. His verbal abuse left him in tears. Lt Ramsey noticed his [Capt Tarrant's] face would gorge with blood during these shouting episodes.

"He considered himself to be abused, harassed and bullied by Captain Tarrant."

The second charge relates to Capt Tarrant's conduct towards Chief Petty Officer Cosxwain (Submarines) Neil Maitland, who claims he would be the subject of shouting and intimidating criticism for no reason.

Captain Tarrant, 44, denies four charges of ill-treating officers under his command through repeated, unjustified, verbal abuse, and a fifth charge against a rating.

The hearing continues.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: badcaptain; bubbleheads; hurtfeelings
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To: Lurker

Mentaly abusing troops? You got to be kidding me!

Any troop feeling mentaly abused needs to get out and take care of little women... damn, there are people in this world alone as one-men-armies who are daily abused of the worst sort and do not back down and feel no guilt to God Himself.


21 posted on 01/09/2006 9:32:10 PM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

As much as I like Churchill and his quotes, the idea that at any time in the Royal Navy, especially the age of sail, sailors were getting the lash left and right routinely is a myth.

It was no tea party and sailors weren't coddled, but there was a lot less flogging and physical punishment than a lot of people think. Many good ships had almost no flogging.


22 posted on 01/09/2006 9:32:12 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Yeth?


23 posted on 01/09/2006 9:32:54 PM PST by SmithL (Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Lift up your gates and sing, Hosana in the highest! Hosana to your King!)
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To: bybybill

NCO's and officers have different roles - as they should. This guy didn't know his.


24 posted on 01/09/2006 9:32:56 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: SmithL

"Dammit I told you the torpedos are supposed to point THIS way, not THAT way! And your mother wears army boots."


25 posted on 01/09/2006 9:33:16 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Lurker
What passes for abuse these days can be ridiculously petty and slight. I'd be cautious about taking these complaints at face value. If he was truly a monster, his entire crew would confess to his behavior. If these complainers aren't backed up by a substantial number of the rest of the crew, I would greatly discount their complaints.

Similar charges were made in an attempt to derail John Bolton's nomination as US ambassador to the UN as I recall, charges that proved to be bogus.

26 posted on 01/09/2006 9:34:35 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: SmithL
Ruptures of the Deep, Bubblehead?

Secret missions can be stressful.......unless they're really secret.
27 posted on 01/09/2006 9:34:35 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: rottndog

Offense in UCMJ: ..using insulting or defamatory language to another officer in that officer’s presence


28 posted on 01/09/2006 9:35:11 PM PST by RTINSC (Being Offended is the Natural Consequence of Leaving Your Home...)
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To: SmithL

Thery should reinstate the daily ration of grog.


29 posted on 01/09/2006 9:35:49 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: SmithL

This ain't McHale's Navy!


30 posted on 01/09/2006 9:39:50 PM PST by Palladin (All the way with Alito!)
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To: rottndog

relived = relieved.


31 posted on 01/09/2006 9:40:19 PM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!!)
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To: Moose4

"And this is the same Royal Navy that used to routinely abuse the daylights out of every midshipman they had? Hmm."

Midshipmen were specifically invented to be abused. They serve no other useful function.

When you are elevated to Midshipman your first response is terror.

Your second response is to be demoted or promoted as soon as heavenly possible.

Don't take my word for it. Ask Russell Crowe


32 posted on 01/09/2006 9:40:42 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: SmithL

Brokeback Navy.
I can see how someone screaming abuse at you for no good
reason with his face right up to your own could "get old"
real quick, though. The captain might be slightly deranged. His face looks like it's permanently engorged with blood, by the way.


33 posted on 01/09/2006 9:41:58 PM PST by willyboyishere ("When the superficial wearies me, it wearies me so much that I need an abyss in order to rest")
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To: Lurker

Well put.


34 posted on 01/09/2006 9:43:14 PM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: Valin

Some wussies would demand George S. Patton's court-martial and seek to have him sentenced to take remedial sensitivity training.


35 posted on 01/09/2006 9:46:45 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: patton
NCO`s and Officers have different roles? How knew?
As a very young USMC 2nd LT., a Lt. Col., got a little red in the face with me after I got all my guys "killed" in an exercise.
36 posted on 01/09/2006 9:48:33 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: JCEccles

There's a right way and a wrong way of doing things & screaming at a person for 20 mins. at a time is the wrong way.


37 posted on 01/09/2006 9:49:45 PM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: SmithL

Who ate the strawberry ice cream.


38 posted on 01/09/2006 9:52:29 PM PST by GoforBroke
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To: SmithL

Tears? Tears? There's no crying in the British navy.


39 posted on 01/09/2006 9:53:23 PM PST by wildbill
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To: bybybill
Ah, that. Well, 2lt's were invented to take abuse, if I may steal a phrase from another poster.

I know, I left plenty of them in the woods.

"Follow me, Men!"

"Men?"

.............crickets............

40 posted on 01/09/2006 9:54:36 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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