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Humans Do Not Understand Mirror Reflections, Say Researchers
Physorg ^ | 12-21-2005

Posted on 01/06/2006 3:07:02 PM PST by blam

Humans Do Not Understand Mirror Reflections, Say Researchers

General Science : December 21, 2005 Newsletter

Psychologists at the University of Liverpool have found that people still find it difficult to understand how mirrors work.

Dr Marco Bertamini, from the University’s School of Psychology, conducted a number of experiments by covering a mirror on a wall and inviting participants to walk along a line parallel to the mirror.

He asked them to guess the point at which they would be able to see their reflection. Results showed that people believe they can see themselves even before they are level with the near edge of the mirror.

Dr Bertamini said: “People tend not to understand that the location of the viewer matters in terms of what is visible in a mirror. A good example of this is what we call the Venus Effect, which relates to the many famous paintings of the goddess Venus, looking in a small mirror.

“If you were to look at these paintings, you would assume that Venus is admiring her own face, because you see her face in the mirror. Your viewpoint, however, is rather different from hers; if you can see her in the mirror then she would see you in the mirror.”

Participants were also asked to estimate the image size of their head as it appears on the surface of the mirror. They estimated that it would be a similar size to their physical head. However, participants based their answer on the image they saw inside the mirror rather than on the image on the surface of it. They failed to recognise that the image on the surface of the mirror is half the size of the observer because a mirror is always halfway between the observer and the image that appears inside the mirror.

Dr Bertamini added: “Mirrors make us see virtual objects that exist in a virtual world; they are windows onto this world. On the one hand we trust what we see, but on the other hand this is a world that we know has no physical existence. This is one of the reasons why throughout history people have been fascinated by mirrors.”

Source: the University of Liverpool


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To: Dog Gone
 
"So if see myself in a mirror from six inches away, I'll be the same size as if I'm 40 feet away? Exactly half my size? How about if I'm 16 miles away?"

Yeah, he blew that completely. Stand a 12 inch ruler upright 1 inch from the mirror and the image is not 6 inches high.

Frankly, I've never been fascinated by mirrors, but I must admit my EX couldn't walk by one without looking in admiration at her image.
 


41 posted on 01/06/2006 3:51:30 PM PST by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: Billthedrill
Ever notice that when you look in a mirror, right is left, but up isn't down? Why is that?

Right and left are relative to how you are standing. Up and down are not.

42 posted on 01/06/2006 3:52:17 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Born to Conserve
Aww. Mister Kottah . . . . . . now I'm really confused . . .
43 posted on 01/06/2006 3:52:45 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: blam
Dr Marco Bertamini, from the University’s School of Psychology, conducted a number of experiments

What does this have to do with psychology? Silly me, I learned about optics in a college physics course.

44 posted on 01/06/2006 3:59:37 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: just a dude
I look in the mirror and see some old guy!

Well, the first couple of decades of my life, I saw...me!

No surprise there, but as age advanced, I started seeing... my Father!

Now considering the last time I saw him, he was nearly 95, I started getting a little worried. For an old man he was decent looking, but still...

Then, a few years ago, my Grandfather started looking back from that same mirror...

As that parody of Alfred E. Newman went, "I'm getting worried..."

45 posted on 01/06/2006 4:00:40 PM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: blam

I guess I've never spent much time contemplating the mirror.


46 posted on 01/06/2006 4:04:01 PM PST by TankerKC (Who will hold the NYT accountable for knowingly releasing classified info?)
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To: blam
"Humans Do Not Understand Mirror Reflections, Say Researchers"

In the big list of simple stuff that most humans don't understand, this doesn't make page one. Half of the world's population still thinks socialism works.

47 posted on 01/06/2006 4:04:20 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: ModelBreaker
Ever notice that when you look in a mirror, right is left, but up isn't down? Why is that?

Because the mirror reverses front to back, not left to right.

If you hold a page up with the writing facing the mirror, first read the words through the blank side of the page. They're reversed, just like they appear when you look at the written page in the mirror. The mirror is reversing things front to back just like looking at writing from the back of the page.

48 posted on 01/06/2006 4:06:44 PM PST by DJtex (;)
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To: blam

The problem with mirrors is that they make things look backwards but not upside down. They only reverse one way. This is proof that space is one-dimensional and that plane geometry is fallacious. Next we will take a look at plane psychiatry.


49 posted on 01/06/2006 4:07:08 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: Billthedrill

Yes, that proves something or other really important in psychology.


50 posted on 01/06/2006 4:08:10 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: FreedomCalls

Seems to be a high level of perception happening on FR just now. Could it be happy hour?


51 posted on 01/06/2006 4:09:05 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: FreedomCalls

Because spoons do the job that mirrors won't do :)


52 posted on 01/06/2006 4:10:00 PM PST by xander
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To: muir_redwoods

I think this thread proves the scientists theory. We don't understand it...


53 posted on 01/06/2006 4:10:21 PM PST by Coffee_drinker (The best defense is a strong preemptive strike..)
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To: Young Werther
Yes I do mean that.

Statistically, 50% of the population MUST be below average in intelligence. Look at a bell curve:

The left side shows those with IQ's under 100, with the right side showing those with IQ's over 100.

Simple statistical math taught in 1st year engineering.

54 posted on 01/06/2006 4:11:27 PM PST by FierceDraka ("Sure as I know anything, I know this: I aim to misbehave." - Capt. Mal Reynolds)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Snell's law was discovered centuries earlier by an Arab. Al Ib'n something. That is proof of something, too.


55 posted on 01/06/2006 4:11:31 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: blam

"Participants were also asked to estimate the image size of their head as it appears on the surface of the mirror. They estimated that it would be a similar size to their physical head. However, participants based their answer on the image they saw inside the mirror rather than on the image on the surface of it. They failed to recognise that the image on the surface of the mirror is half the size of the observer because a mirror is always halfway between the observer and the image that appears inside the mirror."

If this were so, then of what use would an overhead projector be?


56 posted on 01/06/2006 4:12:35 PM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: Semi Civil Servant

If "left" is "right", and "right" is "left" in a mirror, why isn't "up" "down", and "down" "up"?


Hahaha. It is if you turn it 90 degrees!


57 posted on 01/06/2006 4:13:32 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: mcg1969

I can't seem to see myself in the mirror.


58 posted on 01/06/2006 4:13:44 PM PST by brooklin
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To: blam
Many artists, who have an apparantly inate understanding of how mirrors work, frequently hold their hands "backward" when using spoons and forks.

BTW, birds have absolutely no problem figuring out how to find something, the location of which is known only from a reflection in a mirror.

That's because birds are "different".

59 posted on 01/06/2006 4:14:19 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: just a dude
I look in the mirror and see some old guy!

Sometimes, out of the corner of my eye, I can see my Pop. It freaks me out every time.

60 posted on 01/06/2006 4:14:20 PM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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