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Whence the First Americans?
ScienceNOW Daily News ^ | 13 December 2005 | Michael Balter

Posted on 01/03/2006 11:43:13 PM PST by neverdem

The largest collection of early American skulls ever studied is lending credence to a controversial theory that two distinct populations of humans--rather than one--colonized the New World. If true, the findings indicate that people who shared an ancestry with modern day Australians and Melanesians may have settled on the continents somewhat earlier than immigrants from northeast Asia. Not so long ago, the origins of the first Americans seemed fairly certain: Beginning about 12,000 years ago, people from northeast Asia entered North America via the Bering landbridge in several waves of immigration. These ancestors of present-day Native Americans spread out to populate the entire New World. But in recent years, some archaeologists have argued that the first immigrants to the Americas were people from southeast Asia who share ancestors with native Australians and Melanesians. Chief amongst them has been Walter Neves of the University of Sao Paolo in Brazil.

This week, Neves claims new support for this hypothesis from an analysis of 81 prehistoric skulls found in the Lagoa Santa region of southeast Brazil. Unearthed over a 150 year period, most of the skulls range from 7500 to 8500 years old, although two skulls were dated to around 11,500 years ago. Detailed measurements of the skulls, combined with statistical analyses of their morphology, shows that they most closely resemble those of present-day people from Australia and Melanesia, whose skulls tend to be long and narrow with projecting faces, Neves and his Sao Paolo colleague Mark Hubbe report online this week in The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. People from northeast Asia, on the other hand, tend to have skulls that are short and wide with relatively flat faces.

Because skulls similar to those at Lagoa Santa have been found in North and South America, Neves and Hubbe conclude that their data support a hypothesis in which two distinct populations colonized the New World: one group from southeast Asia that is morphologically similar to Australians and Melanesians, which arrived around 12,000 years ago (also via the Bering landbridge), and a second group from northeast Asia, which followed soon after and eventually gave rise to today's Native Americans. As for the immigrants fromwith southeast Asia, they may have been replaced after the second group from Asia arrived or may even have held on until Europeans arrived on the continent, Neves says.

Archaeologist Tom Dillehay of Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee, says he had some doubts about Neves' hypothesis when it was first proposed, but "Neves is building a more solid case with these skeletons." But physical anthropologist Clark Larsen of Ohio State University in Columbus notes that the differences between the Lagoa Santa skulls and those of Native Americans do not necessarily indicate that they represent two biologically distinct groups. Changes in diet over time can modify the jaw muscles in ways that also alter skull shape, without major genetic changes, Larsen argues. Concludes Dillehay: "Neves' hypothesis may now be the most plausible explanation, but it is not yet fully acceptable."

Paleoamerican Origins


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Extended News; Japan; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: archaeolog; archeology; australia; brazil; godsgravesglyphs; melanesia; newworld; tomdillehay; walterneves
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Among the skulls found in Brazil is this 11,500-year-old specimen belonging to a woman nicknamed "Luzia." Credit: PNAS
1 posted on 01/03/2006 11:43:14 PM PST by neverdem
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


2 posted on 01/03/2006 11:45:48 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
What if the people we know as Native Americans were, in fact, the first conquerors, who took the land away from...

Will all those casino bucks now have to be paid to Americans of Australian ancestry?

3 posted on 01/03/2006 11:46:58 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you. --Elmer Davis)
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To: neverdem
"The largest collection of early American skulls ever studied is lending credence to a controversial theory that two distinct populations of humans--rather than one--colonized the New World."

Well, jeepers...I thought fer sure this was going to explain the difference between libs and conservatives...:)

4 posted on 01/03/2006 11:47:20 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: neverdem

And it was probably today's Indians through their ruthless imperialism that drove them from the land!


5 posted on 01/03/2006 11:48:08 PM PST by RWR8189 (George Allen for President)
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To: Darkwolf377
"Will all those casino bucks now have to be paid to Americans of Australian ancestry?"

Shhhhhh!!!!

6 posted on 01/03/2006 11:48:36 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: neverdem
This may help to solve some problems with the time-line concerning advanced cultures in South America, definitely an interesting hypothesis.
7 posted on 01/03/2006 11:55:18 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: kublia khan

This one is always open to debate. I just would like to plug Ancient American Magazine. They cover this stuff every month. Worth the read!!

PS.

Keep an open mind.


8 posted on 01/04/2006 12:09:53 AM PST by Tyche (A half truth is a whole lie)
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Thanks neverdem.

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9 posted on 01/04/2006 12:12:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/pledge)
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To: neverdem
Luiza Brunet?

I knew her down there....a major hottie in her day and a Brasilain legend

now she's a mommy


10 posted on 01/04/2006 12:16:00 AM PST by wardaddy (If they don't own at least one pick-up, then they need to be watched closely)
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To: neverdem
11,500-year-old specimen belonging to a woman nicknamed "Luzia."

Wow! So they can tell what her name was just from looking at her skull?

I am impressed!

How did they do that? Match her dental records or something?

(I'm pretty good at figuring out complex things at 1:30 in the morning).

11 posted on 01/04/2006 12:21:51 AM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (The heart of the wise man inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. - Eccl. 10:2)
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To: neverdem
ping for later read



12 posted on 01/04/2006 12:31:22 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Tyche

I'm not biased in any way, and thanks for the heads up on the magazine. I'm going to look for it


13 posted on 01/04/2006 12:43:44 AM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Darkwolf377
"took the land away from"

Undoubtedly that was the case. The idea that certain groups of humans, to wit Indian-Americans, were exempt from the normal violent and acquisitive actions of humans everywhere is absurd. And accounts of Cortez's Spaniards finding long lines of subject Indian tribes waiting to be slaughtered by their Aztec conquerors proves it.

14 posted on 01/04/2006 3:02:15 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: driftless

Ahh...but those waiting to be slaughtered must certainly have been without violent and acquisitive impulses.

Exploited and opressed....I'm sure there is Marxist theory to explain it all.
:]


15 posted on 01/04/2006 3:24:13 AM PST by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: neverdem
Baloney...

The first were from europe, the evicence continues to be ignored, 18,500 YA to 11,750 YA.

The acedemic kool-aid just never stops flowing, does it.

16 posted on 01/04/2006 3:58:36 AM PST by xcamel (Exposing clandestine operations is treason. 13 knots make a noose.)
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To: xcamel
The first were from europe, the evicence continues to be ignored, 18,500 YA to 11,750 YA.

So we give it back to the Asians who give it back to the Australians who give it back to... us.
17 posted on 01/04/2006 4:42:42 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: neverdem
Changes in diet over time can modify the jaw muscles in ways that also alter skull shape, without major genetic changes, Larsen argues.

Changes in MINE have altered my GUT shape, so I guess ANYTHING is possible!

18 posted on 01/04/2006 8:55:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Tyche; Dan(9698); PatrickHenry; metmom; RunningWolf; VadeRetro

Debate indeed!


19 posted on 01/04/2006 8:57:59 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: neverdem

Isn't it kind of silly to go back to the old days of measuring skulls, rather than analyzing DNA? Measuring skulls seems so 19th century to me.

I am open to the idea that North America was settled by people from Europe or Japan or Polynesia -- but so far the genetic evidence just doesn't support it.


20 posted on 01/04/2006 9:38:36 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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