Hey, I had one of these. If you had one, you would detest Fiats, too:
Posted on 12/28/2005 3:01:53 PM PST by johnnyb_61820
... the idea that the four fundamental forces of physics alone could rearrange the fundamental particles of nature into spaceships, nuclear power plants, and computers, connected to laser printers, CRTs, keyboards and the Internet, appears to violate the second law of thermodynamics in a spectacular way.
Anyone who has made such an argument is familiar with the standard reply: the Earth is an open system, it receives energy from the sun, and order can increase in an open system, as long as it is "compensated" somehow by a comparable or greater decrease outside the system. S. Angrist and L. Hepler, for example, in "Order and Chaos", write, "In a certain sense the development of civilization may appear contradictory to the second law.... Even though society can effect local reductions in entropy, the general and universal trend of entropy increase easily swamps the anomalous but important efforts of civilized man. Each localized, man-made or machine-made entropy decrease is accompanied by a greater increase in entropy of the surroundings, thereby maintaining the required increase in total entropy."
According to this reasoning, then, the second law does not prevent scrap metal from reorganizing itself into a computer in one room, as long as two computers in the next room are rusting into scrap metal -- and the door is open. In Appendix D of my new book, The Numerical Solution of Ordinary and Partial Differential Equations, second edition, I take a closer look at the equation for entropy change, which applies not only to thermal entropy but also to the entropy associated with anything else that diffuses, and show that it does not simply say that order cannot increase in a closed system. It also says that in an open system, order cannot increase faster than it is imported through the boundary. ...
(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...
Well nature is "guiding the result". Nature is determining (by enforcing a rule) what is "good" and selectively pruning the results. So what exactly is it that enables genetic algorithms to work, but not evolution of species?
Or one that defeats aging? Remember stem cells are aging immune.
Aging is an advantage. It allows parents to be more easily replaced by their offspring, which increases the effectiveness of the algorithm.
btw: I am a Christian and devoutly believe in God and His Son, who died for our sins.
And anyone that watches evolution unfold and doesn't see the Glory of God is looking but not seeing.
Romans 5:12-21
12. Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned--
13. for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law.
14. Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
15. But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
16. Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.
17. For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
18. Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.
19. For just as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
20. The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,
21. so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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LOVE that tagline!!!
Hey, I had one of these. If you had one, you would detest Fiats, too:
Someone you know has a sense of humor!
But if you leave your blanket of many colors in the sun, does it become more organized or less? In my part of the universe, it becomes discolored and faded and eventually will disintegrate. Of course, here in Minnesota, we not only get the energy from the sun, we get the energy from snow too.
The Bible is highly allegorical and has no place in a scientific discussion.
Tell him he should worry about the NEXT world!!!
This assertion applies to any 'science' book you pick up as well.
Likewise...
Just because a fossil appears or a species becomes evident doesn't prove evolution, either!
Yes they are both false claims, but only the first claim is ever made - that trilobites appeared and therefore evolution is wrong. How does that even work?
Good job of mis-direction, but the ToE IS repeatable, if it's any kind of theory at all!
A one-time-event, of course, is NOT repeatable; but if E is as it is claimed: Science - then it CAN be verified.
We C's merely ask that it be done.
That's because YOU are the infidel!
Picture yourself as a fellow Muslim and THEN re-think your position in this matter.
We do see this. The chemicals might currently be involved in some other task but they are nonetheless "hanging around" and can be used as building blocks in new functioning systems (or even rearranged in existing systems for new functions)
But Pat; we DO!!!
Not unless my toilet is also solar powered.
The 'round and clear etc,' part was accomplished by the earth spinning on an axis; the moisture was due to solar energy.
nom...
Just wondering, how does science explain time never ending?
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