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Another View: There's only one way to stop gun crime: ban handguns
New Hampshire Union Leader ^ | December 28, 2005 | JENNY PRICE

Posted on 12/28/2005 12:06:11 PM PST by Final Authority

Five years ago an elderly Los Angeles woman who had agreed to move out of her daughter's apartment bought a handgun.

She cleared the background check, passed the safety test and practiced on targets at the local shooting range. Then she shot and killed her daughter and her daughter's fiance - my brother David.

As someone who has lost a member of my family to gun violence, I see the new federal legislation to limit gun manufacturers' liability as unconscionable beyond my ken. But what troubles me most is that the gun control lobby is pouring its resources into battles that probably won't save many lives - and we're losing even those.

In the past decade, states have passed law after law to require safety locks, force gun-purchase waiting periods, trace bullets back to their sources and allow victims to sue manufacturers for negligence. That such measures have produced at best slight decreases in the rate of gun deaths is hardly surprising, because only 3 percent of gun deaths are accidents, and most murderers own their handguns legally and know how to use them safely.

California has passed a raft of such laws in the past five years and is widely praised as one of the most progressive states on gun control. In that same period, the number of handgun-related homicides has fallen and then risen again, with no correlation whatever.

The real problem is not that handguns aren't safe or well-regulated enough, or that you can't sue and try to bankrupt a corrupt manufacturer after someone you love has been killed.

The problem is that 60 million people in the United States own handguns. The gun used to kill my brother was a Glock 19, a light and portable semiautomatic.

These guns are designed to kill people: That's their sole purpose. Nearly 12,000 Americans annually use guns to do just that, and the majority use handguns.

Twelve thousand: that's comparable to the number of AIDS deaths each year in the United States. (Great Britain has about 100 gun deaths each year.) And if the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which leads the gun control crusade, continues to assure us that it won't try to outlaw handguns.

Then new laws to restrict who can buy guns and where they can carry them might reduce the annual toll to 10,000. But that's optimistic. Wouldn't it make more sense to define the ultimate battle as one for a national ban on handguns - the sole gun-control measure that promises to save tens of thousands of lives' With an endgame that can actually achieve the ultimate goal, perhaps we'd acquire the logical and moral authority to win more of the smaller battles.

I can hear the gun lobby scoffing, "Guns don't kill people. People do." This ditty is familiar to all of us. Yes, and bombs and chemical weapons don't kill people either, but they're not sold over the counter to just about anyone without a criminal record who can prove that he or she can use them safely.

Of the 12,000 guns used to kill people every year, 160 are used in legitimate self-defense. Guns in the home are used seven times more often for murder than for self-defense.

I cannot say whether the woman who shot my brother was vicious or insane: I myself no longer understand the exact difference. But we all know that rage, vengefulness and deep alienation are hardly unusual in our society, and a handgun makes it horrifyingly easy for people to express them, on purpose or on impulse, by killing people.

If the National Rifle Association wants to pour its own considerable resources into creating a society ruled by absolute peace and brotherhood, I'm all for it.

But let's stop arming the populace in the meantime, which pro- and anti-gun advocates alike know for certain will create a mountainous death toll. Jenny Price is a writer in Los Angeles.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; jennyprice; liberals; politics
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To: RockinRight

(a) SHORT TITLE- This Act may be cited as the 'Prevention of Illegal Acts Act'.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. Ban on Illegal Acts.

Congress finds that: · Despite the number of laws currently in force today, citizens are still breaking many laws. Making all crimes illegal will prevent them.


41 posted on 12/28/2005 12:17:24 PM PST by Loud Mime (Liberals want civil liberties, except for the unborn, the smokers and the constitutionalists.)
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To: Final Authority
Of the 12,000 guns used to kill people every year, 160 are used in legitimate self-defense. Guns in the home are used seven times more often for murder than for self-defense.

Not according to studies I've seen.

42 posted on 12/28/2005 12:17:30 PM PST by cruiserman
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To: Final Authority

No problem. I'm sure everyone will just obey the law and all the big bad guns will just disappear. Poof! Likewise we should have a nuclear freeze and just give up all nukes - that way Iran won't need to make any nukes and neither will Korea and all the bombs and missiles will disappear. Poof! Whoops there goes DC. Now shut the hell up and get under that Burkah Jenny Price. In the new gun-free world women like you will be stoned to death.


43 posted on 12/28/2005 12:17:52 PM PST by rhombus
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To: Final Authority
Yea, but were the Nazi's liberal?

If you mean: were the German National Socialists a left-wing movement? then the answer is yes, of course they were.

44 posted on 12/28/2005 12:17:55 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Final Authority
The Nazis were national Socialists, as far left as it gets.

Read Hayak's "Road to Serfdom".

45 posted on 12/28/2005 12:18:03 PM PST by jsmith48 (www.isupatriot.com)
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To: Final Authority
Who else would want to confiscate guns?

Drugies and drug dealers.

46 posted on 12/28/2005 12:18:14 PM PST by elbucko
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To: Recovering Hermit

THAT was a mental image I did NOT need.


47 posted on 12/28/2005 12:18:21 PM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: KingofZion

Any person who seriously thinks banning the sale and posession of firearms will do any good needs to be institutionalized.

Every country that has banned firearms has witnesses an increase in violence.

Why?

Because, like drugs, guns can be smuggled easily.


48 posted on 12/28/2005 12:18:33 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: Final Authority

Well, we could ban narcotics, and that would stop narcotics violations.


49 posted on 12/28/2005 12:18:37 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Final Authority

Japan has very strict gun laws, yet murders still occur by other means.


50 posted on 12/28/2005 12:18:45 PM PST by DTogo (Merry CHRISTmas, and a healthy & happy New Year!)
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To: Final Authority
“…most murderers own their handguns legally and know how to use them safely.”
Sure would like to see the data on that one.

“Of the 12,000 guns used to kill people every year, 160 are used in legitimate self-defense. Guns in the home are used seven times more often for murder than for self-defense.”
And this one!

“But let's stop arming the populace in the meantime…”
And to hell with the US Constitution that also gives her the right to write this crap.

Where’s the BARF alert? In its defense, it does illustrate the mindset of the left.
NRA member #145480265

51 posted on 12/28/2005 12:18:47 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: mlc9852
"Would it have been any consolation if her sister was killed with a baseball bat? If someone wants to kill another human being, there are many ways to accomplish it."

I had a similar thought.
The problem here is a person has been mentally overwhelmed by the loss of a loved one.
Her inability to see the issue clearly has clouded her judgment.
It's bizarre to blame society instead of the perpetrator.
52 posted on 12/28/2005 12:19:45 PM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (sayyy....this Al Qaida thing looks serious....)
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To: Final Authority
Yea, but were the Nazi's liberal? I don't think those who wish to restrict the ability of the governed to redress the tyranny of those who govern are only liberal.

National Socialists German Workers' Party.

53 posted on 12/28/2005 12:19:54 PM PST by cruiserman
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To: Recovering Hermit

LOL


54 posted on 12/28/2005 12:20:11 PM PST by YouPosting2Me
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To: Final Authority

I'm sure all those who have had a loved one killed by other than handguns would argue that the murder rate would likely be the same. Folks who want to kill someone are going to do it; if a handgun isn't available, they'll use something else.


55 posted on 12/28/2005 12:20:56 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: RebelBanker
One isn't required to excerpt the Union Leader, but, since it wasn't a wire story piece but rather an opinion piece by a private citizen, I didn't spend much effort in checking out whether or not it was already posted.

If all you can add is that it was already posted, why bother doing anything, as the people who do post a reply at least are interested in the subject and may have something to add that even you may learn from.
56 posted on 12/28/2005 12:21:02 PM PST by Final Authority
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To: Final Authority

"The problem is that 60 million people in the United States own handguns."
-who don't misuse them,
-who are law abiding,
-who won't give them up willingly,
-who don't want to become crime vitims, and
-who have read the constitution.



57 posted on 12/28/2005 12:21:16 PM PST by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: saganite

It would be interesting to find out the facts for this case. I'm guessing her brother wasn't David Price, as I Googled and didn't find anything.


58 posted on 12/28/2005 12:21:20 PM PST by MarkeyD (Cowards cut and run. Marines finish the job. I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: Final Authority
"As someone who has lost a member of my family to gun violence..."

No, she lost a family member because a violent human. This human could've used a variety of different tools to commit this murder -- an automobile, poison, a gun, knives, etc.

"Of the 12,000 guns used to kill people every year, 160 are used in legitimate self-defense."

lol....160? I've personally posted over 160 "legitimate self-defense" articles on FR just in the last 6 months alone. The truth is there are many thousands of cases of law-abiding citizens using firearms in self-defense. .....annually.

59 posted on 12/28/2005 12:21:39 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: MarkeyD

Yeah I know what you meant but the phrase "girl her daughter" was just too good to pass up! I'm wondering if you haven't coined a new way of phrasing how children are raised. Take for example "girl her son". Would he be gay? Or the phrase "boy her daughter". Would she be a lesbian?

Food for thought.


60 posted on 12/28/2005 12:21:40 PM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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