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Another View: There's only one way to stop gun crime: ban handguns
New Hampshire Union Leader ^ | December 28, 2005 | JENNY PRICE

Posted on 12/28/2005 12:06:11 PM PST by Final Authority

Five years ago an elderly Los Angeles woman who had agreed to move out of her daughter's apartment bought a handgun.

She cleared the background check, passed the safety test and practiced on targets at the local shooting range. Then she shot and killed her daughter and her daughter's fiance - my brother David.

As someone who has lost a member of my family to gun violence, I see the new federal legislation to limit gun manufacturers' liability as unconscionable beyond my ken. But what troubles me most is that the gun control lobby is pouring its resources into battles that probably won't save many lives - and we're losing even those.

In the past decade, states have passed law after law to require safety locks, force gun-purchase waiting periods, trace bullets back to their sources and allow victims to sue manufacturers for negligence. That such measures have produced at best slight decreases in the rate of gun deaths is hardly surprising, because only 3 percent of gun deaths are accidents, and most murderers own their handguns legally and know how to use them safely.

California has passed a raft of such laws in the past five years and is widely praised as one of the most progressive states on gun control. In that same period, the number of handgun-related homicides has fallen and then risen again, with no correlation whatever.

The real problem is not that handguns aren't safe or well-regulated enough, or that you can't sue and try to bankrupt a corrupt manufacturer after someone you love has been killed.

The problem is that 60 million people in the United States own handguns. The gun used to kill my brother was a Glock 19, a light and portable semiautomatic.

These guns are designed to kill people: That's their sole purpose. Nearly 12,000 Americans annually use guns to do just that, and the majority use handguns.

Twelve thousand: that's comparable to the number of AIDS deaths each year in the United States. (Great Britain has about 100 gun deaths each year.) And if the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which leads the gun control crusade, continues to assure us that it won't try to outlaw handguns.

Then new laws to restrict who can buy guns and where they can carry them might reduce the annual toll to 10,000. But that's optimistic. Wouldn't it make more sense to define the ultimate battle as one for a national ban on handguns - the sole gun-control measure that promises to save tens of thousands of lives' With an endgame that can actually achieve the ultimate goal, perhaps we'd acquire the logical and moral authority to win more of the smaller battles.

I can hear the gun lobby scoffing, "Guns don't kill people. People do." This ditty is familiar to all of us. Yes, and bombs and chemical weapons don't kill people either, but they're not sold over the counter to just about anyone without a criminal record who can prove that he or she can use them safely.

Of the 12,000 guns used to kill people every year, 160 are used in legitimate self-defense. Guns in the home are used seven times more often for murder than for self-defense.

I cannot say whether the woman who shot my brother was vicious or insane: I myself no longer understand the exact difference. But we all know that rage, vengefulness and deep alienation are hardly unusual in our society, and a handgun makes it horrifyingly easy for people to express them, on purpose or on impulse, by killing people.

If the National Rifle Association wants to pour its own considerable resources into creating a society ruled by absolute peace and brotherhood, I'm all for it.

But let's stop arming the populace in the meantime, which pro- and anti-gun advocates alike know for certain will create a mountainous death toll. Jenny Price is a writer in Los Angeles.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; jennyprice; liberals; politics
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I posted this because it certainly is a good topic for discussion.

Are the facts correct is one thing I would ask? Is gun confiscation strictly a liberal plan or mindset? Who else would want to confiscate guns? How would gun confiscation be administered?

I think banning guns means more than restrictions on sales of guns and more than gun registration, it must mean going door to door and confiscating the weapons.

1 posted on 12/28/2005 12:06:13 PM PST by Final Authority
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To: Final Authority
How would gun confiscation be administered?

Registered Democrats would own them. All others would not.

2 posted on 12/28/2005 12:08:02 PM PST by peyton randolph (<a href="http://clinton.senate.gov/">shrew</a>)
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To: Final Authority

Would it have been any consolation if her sister was killed with a baseball bat? If someone wants to kill another human being, there are many ways to accomplish it.


3 posted on 12/28/2005 12:08:21 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Final Authority

Using the same logic:

There's only one way to stop teen pregnancy:

Ban Penises.


4 posted on 12/28/2005 12:08:42 PM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: Final Authority

Poor Jenny, She has lost both her brother and her mind.......


5 posted on 12/28/2005 12:09:12 PM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him)
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To: mvpel
Have any comments on our liberal leaning statewide newspaper of late?

Why would the editors of the Union Leader place this in such a prominent position? Do you intend to write a response to the editors?
6 posted on 12/28/2005 12:09:12 PM PST by Final Authority
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To: Final Authority

Some crazy woman kills her brother and I have to give up my guns? I don't think so!


7 posted on 12/28/2005 12:09:14 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Final Authority

I'm wondering what the relationship was between the woman and her mother that would cause her to girl her own daughter?


8 posted on 12/28/2005 12:09:24 PM PST by MarkeyD (Cowards cut and run. Marines finish the job. I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: Final Authority
any theory that relies on criminals obeying whatever the proposed law is is inherently idiotic.
9 posted on 12/28/2005 12:09:32 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: RockinRight
There's only one way to stop teen pregnancy: Ban Penises.

Don't give them any ideas. (Although NOW has been pushing this idea for years.)

10 posted on 12/28/2005 12:09:46 PM PST by Pete
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To: Final Authority

FYI, this is a reprint from the NYT. It was posted here a few days ago.


11 posted on 12/28/2005 12:10:07 PM PST by MarkeyD (Cowards cut and run. Marines finish the job. I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: MarkeyD

Guns don't kill people, Crazy Canadians in Toronto do


12 posted on 12/28/2005 12:10:13 PM PST by bannedfromdu
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To: Final Authority
Is gun confiscation strictly a liberal plan or mindset?

Yes.

Who else would want to confiscate guns?

The Nazis and the Communists were fond of it, too.

13 posted on 12/28/2005 12:10:25 PM PST by A Jovial Cad ("If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting." -General Curtis LeMay)
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To: RockinRight
"Using the same logic:"

and it's the spoon's fault that Rosie ODonnell is fat!
14 posted on 12/28/2005 12:10:36 PM PST by YouPosting2Me
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To: Final Authority
Of the 12,000 guns used to kill people every year, 160 are used in legitimate self-defense. Guns in the home are used seven times more often for murder than for self-defense.

IM gonna call Bulls**t!

15 posted on 12/28/2005 12:11:27 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Final Authority

Already discussed here but it's always worth a review since not everyone checks in on a regular basis.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1546966/posts?page=35#35


16 posted on 12/28/2005 12:11:55 PM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: Final Authority
Banning any sort of weapons won't offset the evil in a human heart. They could ban guns, knives, baseball bats, screwdrivers, hammers...etc..etc...in ad nauseum.

People would beat each other to death with their fists and tear each other apart with their teeth. The strong would still prey on the weak.

Molon Labe.
17 posted on 12/28/2005 12:12:00 PM PST by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Final Authority
She cleared the background check, passed the safety test and practiced on targets at the local shooting range. Then she shot and killed her daughter and her daughter's fiance - my brother David.

This story should be checked to see if it is bogus.

18 posted on 12/28/2005 12:12:09 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Final Authority
Just ask the Britons how well a handgun ban has worked for them.
19 posted on 12/28/2005 12:12:09 PM PST by FLcitizen
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To: Final Authority
"She cleared the background check, passed the safety test and practiced on targets at the local shooting range. Then she shot and killed her daughter and her daughter's fiance - my brother David."

The story doesn't say why she shot and killed these people. Maybe it had something to do with threat of bodily harm. (Read: Self Defense)

20 posted on 12/28/2005 12:12:35 PM PST by moasicwolf
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