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Another View: There's only one way to stop gun crime: ban handguns
New Hampshire Union Leader ^ | December 28, 2005 | JENNY PRICE

Posted on 12/28/2005 12:06:11 PM PST by Final Authority

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To: MarkeyD

would cause her to girl her own daughter?


Say what?


21 posted on 12/28/2005 12:12:55 PM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: Final Authority
Who else would want to confiscate guns?

Fascists and other statists of every stripe along with people like this writer, whose personal and tragic loss has left her bereft of some basic common sense. The mother of her brother's girl friend didn't kill the two of them because she had a gun handy. She killed them because she was a crazy deranged old woman who likely would have picked up a butcher knife or run them down with her car to do the deed.

22 posted on 12/28/2005 12:12:57 PM PST by katana
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To: A Jovial Cad
Yea, but were the Nazi's liberal? I don't think those who wish to restrict the ability of the governed to redress the tyranny of those who govern are only liberal.
23 posted on 12/28/2005 12:12:57 PM PST by Final Authority
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To: mylife

Guns used for self-defense are rarely reported.


24 posted on 12/28/2005 12:13:08 PM PST by MarkeyD (Cowards cut and run. Marines finish the job. I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: peyton randolph

No, only Rich and Connected Registered Democrats would own them.

I, mean, Registered Democrats include lots of union members, felons, and welfare recipients. Can't let them have pistols.


25 posted on 12/28/2005 12:13:29 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: YouPosting2Me
and it's the spoon's fault that Rosie ODonnell is fat!

I suppose you think the fork and knife are innocent bystanders?!

CLUE ENDING: Rosie ODonnell, in the closet, with a vat of pig fat and a ladle.

26 posted on 12/28/2005 12:13:53 PM PST by pgyanke (The only way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: saganite

Oops. You know what I meant.


27 posted on 12/28/2005 12:13:55 PM PST by MarkeyD (Cowards cut and run. Marines finish the job. I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: Final Authority

We should try banning murder first . . .


28 posted on 12/28/2005 12:14:04 PM PST by cruiserman
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To: mlc9852
I think it went

Gloria: Quoting some statistic about gun deaths

Archie: Would it make you feel any better, little girl, if they was pushed out windows?

29 posted on 12/28/2005 12:14:30 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Funny how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather...)
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To: Final Authority

Okay, I'll take the bait.

A serious problem (among many) with banning guns is that it is doomed to fail. Even if you confiscated all 60 million handguns (unlikely to be succesful, judging from efforts in NYC and DC) you would still have millions of illegal imports each year. US customs has utterly failed to stop the flow of drugs and humans across the border. How would they have any further success with easily concealed weapons?

There is also a serious moral issue. Handguns, unlike illegal narcotics, have a good purpose - to defend those who were not born with great physical strength from violent criminals who would prey upon them. Guns are an equalizer without a subsitute (i.e. knife, mace, etc.) By taking away the right to own handguns, you are depriving the individual of the right to protect his life and liberty (which the police cannot do unless they put a car in front of your house 24/7).

I find these arguments to be most persuasive on both a moral and practical level. There are other good arguments, i.e., Second Amendment, etc. but in the end you cannot implement a law that is morally and factually bankrupt.


30 posted on 12/28/2005 12:14:54 PM PST by KingofZion
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To: RockinRight
Ban Penises.

You can have my penis when you pry it from my cold, dead hand.

31 posted on 12/28/2005 12:15:12 PM PST by Recovering Hermit
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To: Final Authority

Identical article (different title) from the Washington Post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1546966/posts


32 posted on 12/28/2005 12:15:27 PM PST by RebelBanker (If you can't do something smart, do something right.)
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To: Final Authority
most murderers own their handguns legally and know how to use them safely.

WHAAAAAAAAAAT?! What on God's good green Earth is this woman smoking and can she pass it when she's done?! This is by far the most uneducated, unqualified statement I've ever read by anyone in the MSM. I pray to the Good Lord that this was an editorial and not some article founded on fact. If so, this woman should be stripped of her journalistic devices and forced to endure a few months of education on how to correctly read and cite sources for facts.

In light of the article's basis... it's ludicrous. The thought that banning handguns across the board will do away with handgun violence is folly. BANNING handguns is foolhardy, at best. Completely obliterating them and destroying every single one of them on the planet? Complete lunacy! This is a MSM article based on an emotional plea, not fact. The fact that she cites the number of "self-defense" uses in the 100's is laughable as well. Self-defense is the defense of one's life. This does NOT mean taking the life of another to defend your own. I've drawn my firearm twice in protection of my life, and I never fired a shot. The perp ran in the other direction.

Let this article be a lesson to those who want to opine on emotion: it may fall on the hearts of the sheeple, but it will never pass the sniff test of those who understand the domestic war we fight against armed criminals. I'd rather be armed than dead.

33 posted on 12/28/2005 12:15:31 PM PST by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / Molwn Labe!)
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To: Final Authority

The better question to ask is the left in the US liberal in the old sense of the word or are they totalitarians.


34 posted on 12/28/2005 12:15:38 PM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: Final Authority
Yea, but were the Nazi's liberal?

You don't "sound" like a FReeper...

Nazis are National Socialists... that's a definition. They are bedfellows of liberal socialists and communists.

35 posted on 12/28/2005 12:15:43 PM PST by pgyanke (The only way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Final Authority
She cleared the background check, passed the safety test and practiced on targets at the local shooting range. Then she shot and killed her daughter and her daughter's fiance - my brother David.

This is a good rule of thumb - base all legislation on a 1-in-300 million occurrence.

Or just in general - if one in 300 million people die of a drug's side effects, and the drug will save the lives of a few million people, ban the drug.

This approach should do wonders for the automobile industry.

36 posted on 12/28/2005 12:15:45 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Final Authority
Why would the editors of the Union Leader place this in such a prominent position?

Because it was originally run in the Washington Post as an OP-ED. Liberals love to give wide coverage to those on their side of the issues.

37 posted on 12/28/2005 12:15:45 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: flrepublican

Ask the Australians.


38 posted on 12/28/2005 12:15:55 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Final Authority

Jeez, and I just got back from the gun shop picking up my Christmas present!


39 posted on 12/28/2005 12:17:02 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Final Authority; All
The problem is that 60 million people in the United States own handguns. ... These guns are designed to kill people: That's their sole purpose. Nearly 12,000 Americans annually use guns to do just that.

Given the ratio of handguns to kills, they are failing miserably at their “sole purpose.”

40 posted on 12/28/2005 12:17:15 PM PST by dighton
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