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Where The Boys Aren't
Weekly Standard ^ | January 2, 2006 | Melana Zyla Vickers

Posted on 12/28/2005 10:30:39 AM PST by Daralundy

Here's a thought that's unlikely to occur to twelfth--grade girls as their college acceptances begin to trickle in: After they get to campus in the fall, one in four of them will be mathematically unable to find a male peer to go out with.

At colleges across the country, 58 women will enroll as freshmen for every 42 men. And as the class of 2010 proceeds toward graduation, the male numbers will dwindle. Because more men than women drop out, the ratio after four years will be 60--40, according to projections by the Department of Education.

The problem isn't new-women bachelor's degree--earners first outstripped men in 1982. But the gap, which remained modest for some time, is widening. More and more girls are graduating from high school and following through on their college ambitions, while boys are failing to keep pace and, by some measures, losing ground.

Underperformance in education is no longer a problem confined to black males, Hispanic males, or even poor whites. In 2004, the nation's middle--income, white undergraduate population was 57 percent female. Even among white undergraduates with family incomes of $70,000 and higher, the balance tipped in 2000 to 52 percent female. And white boys are the only demographic group whose high school dropout rate has risen since 2000. Maine, a predominantly white state, is at 60--40 in college enrollment and is quickly reaching beyond it. There are now more female master's degree--earners than male, and in 10 years there will be more new female Ph.D.s, according to government projections. American colleges from Brown to Berkeley face a man shortage, and there's no end in sight.

(Excerpt) Read more at weeklystandard.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: education; highereducation; indoctrination; leftismoncampus; lesbountilgraduation; malestudents
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To: LWalk18

That's an interesting explanation.


81 posted on 12/28/2005 1:55:35 PM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Chickensoup

Good for you! If traditional college (what I call four years of butt tax) doesn't get you where you want to go, it's a waste all the way around.

Yeah, people argue you need a college degree to make it in the workplace, but some people are BEYOND the workplace. They WANT to be outside that box, so the degree doesn't matter.

Plus, there are plenty of ways to be working on a degree while going ahead with your life. That's impressive in its own right and many employers like the looks of that kind of initiative. And the person doesn't start his first job with oodles of education debt hanging over his head.


82 posted on 12/28/2005 2:02:28 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: Ouderkirk

I said it first: Most of college coursework today is like being forced to endure an EXTENDED CHICK FLICK.

You know that Budweiser daredevil guy who does stunts such as "listening to my girlfriend for 5 minutes"? That reminds me of what most college courses must be like for guys today. I mean, I couldn't sit through that crap and I AM a gurl!


83 posted on 12/28/2005 2:06:39 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: Daralundy

The first time I saw a similar article I thought it was limited to primarily liberal arts schools. The thrust was that the men have sworn off plastic BA degrees and are gettting degrees that actually have a chance of landing them a job.

This article is in the Weekly Sstandard with no solid sources seems to be derivative of the earlier article but missing the point.

Did I miss something?


84 posted on 12/28/2005 2:07:39 PM PST by bert (Franks for President '08)
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To: yellowdoghunter
I teach at the college level, but the particular history courses I have (business/economic and military/technology) tend to appeal to males. As a rule, I think women are better at "testing" then men are, especially essay tests where they often are more detail oriented.

What may---and I emphasize, MAY---be happening (because I don't see any actual evidence yet) is that more men are just ignoring college and becoming entrepreneurs, which is usually the quickest route to wealth.

Years ago, however, George Gilder in "Men and Marriage" argued that "credentialism," which emphasized degrees, testing, certificates, etc., worked against males who tended to be performance, rather than test, oriented.

85 posted on 12/28/2005 2:10:46 PM PST by LS
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To: chudogg

I'm telling you, for a smart, aggressive person who has a good head for business, the trades can be a goldmine.

Think of how often you've called, say, a bunch of painters and you were grateful if just one showed up to give an estimate. You end up thinking something like "I'd pay any amount of money if I could just find someone who would do this job promptly, honestly and well!"

There are people who understand this. They understand that it doesn't matter if you are selling lawn services, painting, floor installation, whatever. If you learn the trade skills AND put your mind to growing a successful business, people will beat a door to your path.


86 posted on 12/28/2005 2:12:13 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: Dan(9698)

That would explain upper level ratios, where men had a chance to HEAR the "girly" instructors---but not the actual applications, where 12th graders had applied for the first time. Something else is at work there. It has to do with the higher test scores of girls over boys and national merit scholars/GPA kinds of things that usually have girls somewhat ahead coming out of 12th grade.


87 posted on 12/28/2005 2:12:18 PM PST by LS
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To: 14erClimb

Well, I doubt that, but thank you.


88 posted on 12/28/2005 2:13:12 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: nmh
Actually, I think well into high school girls test better than boys, too. Don't know why---it's been explained as boys' energy levels, inability to sit still for longer periods of time, whatever.

In my college classes, because of the nature of courses I teach, I probably get a 65/35 male/female mix. Inevitably MOST of the boys do better than MOST of the girls---possibly because the subjects (business/economic and military history) are more "male" subjects, but inevitably I get 1-2 girls per semester who are at the very top of the classes.

89 posted on 12/28/2005 2:15:36 PM PST by LS
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To: Alberta's Child
Well, you hit the nail on the head, because earning power is about two things: supply/demand and productivity. Gilder pointed out 20 years ago that everyone wants "indoor work with no heavy lifting, but only women almost always get it," and even the liberal Institute on Poverty Research found that married men outproduce married women, unmarried women, and UNMARRIED MEN!!

As a college prof, I'd say that not only have the "useless" subjects proliferated, but even the so-called "traditional" courses have been heavily "feminized," not that they teach about "women's issues," but that the whole pedagogy is "discussion group"/feelings oriented, not fact-based.

90 posted on 12/28/2005 2:22:04 PM PST by LS
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To: handk

91 posted on 12/28/2005 2:26:42 PM PST by Vision (“We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the duty of intelligent men")
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To: Daralundy
The Chinese won't have this problem with the disparity in Male-Female births.
92 posted on 12/28/2005 2:38:52 PM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: LS

I think what the world really needs is more people who are good at carrying on a discussion abjout applying queer theory to radical feminist poetry of the 1960's and how that differs from the patriarchical world-view of the oppressive and repressive white male power structure.


93 posted on 12/28/2005 2:39:23 PM PST by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: MichiganConservative

All within the context of Dada-ism and the game-theory socioeconomic underpinnings of "Brokeback Mountain."


94 posted on 12/28/2005 2:40:48 PM PST by LS
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To: MichiganConservative

Particularly in a post-colonial mode.


95 posted on 12/28/2005 2:42:00 PM PST by TexanToTheCore (Rock the pews, Baby)
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To: Daralundy
It is no coincidence that this parallels the rise in the use of Ritalin on curious and active boys.
96 posted on 12/28/2005 2:44:36 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: BullDog108
"That does it -- I'm goin' back to school!"

Tempting, isn't it?

In my college, there were 4.25 men for every woman.

97 posted on 12/28/2005 2:45:46 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: nightdriver

In my college:

503 women
8 men


98 posted on 12/28/2005 3:09:47 PM PST by TexanToTheCore (Rock the pews, Baby)
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To: Rca2000
And with that attitude she will most likely REMAIN a single, childless professional!!

Since she'll be 50 this year, with no relationship in sight, that's pretty certain...

99 posted on 12/28/2005 6:21:01 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: Kay Ludlow
I would say that as far as the "Child" part is concerned, that her alarm clock went off some time ago, while she was concerned with "finding herself" and other feminist crap.

But she still has a bit of time to find a mate, IF she changes her attitude, soon. Otherwise, in a few years, she will look back at the emptiness of her life, and wonder "where did I go wrong"- no kids, grandkids, spouse-- just a career(which could go south in a moment's notice, nowdays).
100 posted on 12/28/2005 11:25:29 PM PST by Rca2000 (I am Omni-one. I see all, hear all and know all, I can read your mind. You cannot stop me.)
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